TRT dose?

[V Man]

What would be considered a standard TRT dose per week? I thought it was around 100mg/week......so I was experimenting taking around 150-175mg per week of prop, thinking it would elevate test levels slightly higher than normal.

Had blood tests done and my test levels came back much higher than I expected at 96.74 nmol/L...reference range is 6-20! 

[triggerhappy]

Most clinics prescribe 250mg every 2 weeks. Usually best to split the dose so 125mg a week but most trt clinics think this is not needed

[Jizmo]

lol no way you got 10x the average amount with 150mg prop

which compounds did you run before?
how often did you pin?

[V Man]

lol no way you got 10x the average amount with 150mg prop

which compounds did you run before?
how often did you pin?

All I have been doing is 50mg/eod of prop for the last 5 months. I say eod but a lot of times it would actually be 3 days in between shots.....which is why I say 150-175mg. 
Before that I was running a cycle of tren mast and test, but again I finished that about 5 months ago.

[Jizmo]

either youre a hyperresponder or they fucked something up with the test... u sure its not 9.674 ?
150mg would put most people slightly above the upper reference range (depends on how big you are etc too)

however with prop and ed or eod injects most people can get away with 100mg or less a week

look up emerics trt protocol on promuscle... i think he uses like 10mg of prop ed (subq) and gets his levels into middle reference range.

7 or 8 times the middle reference range from 150mg prop is still unheard of though. i would retest or consider myself lucky lol

[V Man]

either youre a hyperresponder or they fucked something up with the test... u sure its not 9.674 ?
150mg would put most people slightly above the upper reference range (depends on how big you are etc too)

however with prop and ed or eod injects most people can get away with 100mg or less a week

look up emerics trt protocol on promuscle... i think he uses like 10mg of prop ed (subq) and gets his levels into middle reference range.

7 or 8 times the middle reference range from 150mg prop is still unheard of though. i would retest or consider myself lucky lol

I know it's not 9.6 because it was actually my buddy who works in the blood lab that tested it. He said my sample had to be diluted 3 times (which is what they do when a sample is at the top of the reference range apparently).

The only other possibility that I thought of today is that maybe my gear is mislabelled, which I suppose could happen with UG labs. Like maybe they put a Prop label on a bottle that actually has Test E in it lol

[Mawse]

I get 200 a week from my doc, which can either give me 1500+ if I inject it all in one day then test after, or if I split it into 3 x weekly shots it keeps me at 800-1000 all the time (instead of peaks and crashes from standard inject protocols)

E2 is fine at this dose, my prostate measured to the bottom end of normal back in March so it's all good.

I do subs sometimes but that huge thread about it on that other board with actual blood work results had me reconsider

[Davidtheman100]

anywhere from 100-250 is standard but 250 is def on the high end but i've seen some places that go as far as 350mg/week and while educated people like myself with hands on experience can easily distinguish that it's too much of a protocol....There is no backlash because there isn't enough research on the long term effects of the subjects running those dosages. I myself, once all of this is done and i'm over it i will run 120/week

[equipoise]

anywhere from 100-250 is standard but 250 is def on the high end but i've seen some places that go as far as 350mg/week and while educated people like myself with hands on experience can easily distinguish that it's too much of a protocol....There is no backlash because there isn't enough research on the long term effects of the subjects running those dosages. I myself, once all of this is done and i'm over it i will run 120/week

Would it be better to run a slightly lower test dose let's say 80mg a week but add in some HCG for estro? I want to do a protocol without using an AI

[Davidtheman100]

Would it be better to run a slightly lower test dose let's say 80mg a week but add in some HCG for estro? I want to do a protocol without using an AI

you should be running HCG anyway regularly if you're on TRT if you have trouble maintaining the size of your testes and semen volume when you put test in your body....the whole idea of TRT is so that it's a better quality of life not changing some aspects in return for others...I'd say something more along the lines of 120mg split up into 2 doses during the week with HCG shot 2ce a week as well...Should be perfectly fine if not you can get prescribed an AI...Even if you're gyno sensitive at such a low dose just a tweak in the diet should suffice for preventing estro

[mazrim]

Would it be better to run a slightly lower test dose let's say 80mg a week but add in some HCG for estro? I want to do a protocol without using an AI

80mg of test would give you plenty of estro in most cases....

[Jizmo]

Would it be better to run a slightly lower test dose let's say 80mg a week but add in some HCG for estro? I want to do a protocol without using an AI

why do you want less test and more estrogen? tryin to become a girl? 

[equipoise]

why do you want less test and more estrogen? tryin to become a girl? 

I find that a little more estro helps with sex drive and also making me more "human". I am naturally low estro and 99% of the time I'm a cold, unfeeling bastard haha

[Jizmo]

I find that a little more estro helps with sex drive and also making me more "human". I am naturally low estro and 99% of the time I'm a cold, unfeeling bastard haha

just run more test then   or add 10mg dbol a day (yes you can run that indefinitely)

[equipoise]

just run more test then   or add 10mg dbol a day (yes you can run that indefinitely)

Thing is I don't want estro to tip into the supraphysiological range...I know when it happens because I start to get acne in the same weird places. But when estro is too low libido suffers. I also want to keep my balls. So I'm looking for a test dose + HCG dose that will give me normal test levels and maintain ball size but still keep estro within range. Experimented with diff types of AIs and AI doses but could never really find that sweet spot...always have either acne or libido issues, so trying to avoid AIs by just using enough test to keep test levels within the normal range. Don't wanna rely on cialis or accutane or whatever if I can help it

Strangely, only AAS I can run with almost no cosmetic sides is tren solo: FLAWLESS skin, no hair loss. But it alters cholesterol readings so I have to take crestor. Systolic BP also goes to about 130 or slightly below so I take 80mg of telmisartan a day, brings it down to about 110 or 115. Hematocrit is always in range no matter how much I run...nandro actually lowers my hematocrit for some reason. Still looking for an alternative AAS to use since I don't think tren long term is safe, plus don't really want to take cholesterol and BP meds forever

[Mawse]

Thing is I don't want estro to tip into the supraphysiological range...I know when it happens because I start to get acne in the same weird places. But when estro is too low libido suffers. I also want to keep my balls. So I'm looking for a test dose + HCG dose that will give me normal test levels and maintain ball size but still keep estro within range. Experimented with diff types of AIs and AI doses but could never really find that sweet spot...always have either acne or libido issues, so trying to avoid AIs by just using enough test to keep test levels within the normal range. Don't wanna rely on cialis or accutane or whatever if I can help it

Strangely, only AAS I can run with almost no cosmetic sides is tren solo: FLAWLESS skin, no hair loss. But it alters cholesterol readings so I have to take crestor. Systolic BP also goes to about 130 or slightly below so I take 80mg of telmisartan a day, brings it down to about 110 or 115. Hematocrit is always in range no matter how much I run...nandro actually lowers my hematocrit for some reason. Still looking for an alternative AAS to use since I don't think tren long term is safe, plus don't really want to take cholesterol and BP meds forever

not strange at all, tren solo will reduce your DHT to zero very quickly so your skin and hair will be good as a result.