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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2015, 11:49:56 AM »



Obviously his mom taught him how to do his BDB pose.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2015, 11:53:31 AM »
Haternicity?

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2015, 12:20:51 PM »
Obviously his mom taught him how to do his BDB pose.
i feel such sadness for his parents
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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2015, 12:22:15 PM »
Some white mixture in there. There's no pure blacks with green eyes, nor such light skin.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2015, 12:30:00 PM »
Pure blacks of Congo



African americans often have some white mixture, just like blacks in Brazil.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2015, 12:57:50 PM »
Hey, you're the dumb old fuck who said he was black. Many other posters here agree he has some Caucasian in him.

But why does this topic make you so butt hurt old man??? Is it because I called you an old fart??
I`m not butt hurt by any means........just a stupid thread in general...........anyone with eyes can see that he is an Afro American.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2015, 01:00:20 PM »
I`m not butt hurt by any means........just a stupid thread in general...........anyone with eyes can see that he is an Afro American.

Everyone trying to talk about semantics.

Anywhere in the world, Phil is black.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2015, 01:10:41 PM »
Everyone trying to talk about semantics.

Anywhere in the world, Phil is black narrow.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2015, 05:03:45 PM »
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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2015, 05:20:32 PM »

As for all your constant anti-Jewish rhetoric you continue to spew, just look at the fucking sources you provide lol. You link a website called “destroyZionism” which is nothing more than the rant’s of white supremacists, “national socialists” and holocaust deniers.

Here are just two examples of anti-White rhetoric coming from fake jews. You are being judged by your deed's and actions. Don't run away now after you started the fight. These assholes are openly wishing the extinction of white people. But all we hear from you is holocaust this holocaust that. There was no real holocaust.

If there was you would not be here to complain about it. Everywhere you look there are fake jews. You weren't wiped out and you know it. The biggest losers of the Second World War were white people - not fake jews. At most 150,000 - 500,000 fake jews died in camps. A small number compared to white deaths throughout Europe in WW2.

The fake jewish media has been playing their sob story on tv and the movies for decades now. Show me a video of a white politician or professor spewing anti-jewish hatred like these two scum below! Do you denounce these cockroaches?




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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2015, 05:49:01 PM »
obsidian might appear extreme but he's not too far off imho.
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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2015, 05:51:43 PM »
Let's take your 9/11 example to begin with. It’s already been debated to death, and i have no wish to ignite another one, but just think about it logically. You’re believing that an administration who couldn't even manage to fake WMD's in Iraq, managed to pull off the largest mass murder in US history, against it's own people, that would have required a HUGE logistical effort involving hundreds if not more, patriotic and dedicated military and intelligence personnel, who all managed to come to terms with the ethics involved and keep it covered up, and prevent it from reaching the eyes of the wider intelligence community, as well as the various hostile one’s who dedicate their lives to knowing the business of U.S, and would kill for the chance to prove that this was a false flag operation. The more people you involve in a conspiracy, the more likely it is to fall apart; You could fill both towers with the amount of people who would have known about this one.
The intelligence was out for a while that an event like this was being planned. It was known that certain groups were looking at doing this so America wouldn't even have needed to do it themselves, merely wait for it to happen. At BEST, you can perhaps make a case that certain individuals may have intentionally turned a blind eye.
Let’s not even get into the sheer amount of science which shows why the towers would not have needed to be brought down by a controlled demolition.
The Academia will not touch 9/11 with a ten foot pole. Why is this? Why no papers at Universities debunking the theories with facts and research??

http://911inacademia.com/

How could WTC7 collapse without a direct impact or massive fires? It collapsed demolition style indicating all columns failed simultaneously. How did this happen?

What about those police officers and other witnesses that saw a "plane" fly over the gas station before an explosion occurred at the Pentagon? The flight path they witnessed is different from the government's claimed path.

The taxi driver's interview was very interesting.

The security video does not show an object the size of an airliner crashing into the Pentagon. The grass is not disturbed either. Etc. etc.

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/videos/lloyde-england-eyeofthestorm



We can go on and on. You claim the government or elite would be too incompetent to pull of such an attack. Yet you believe 19 arabs were smart enough instead?

Have you not heard of Compartmentalization? It is possible to pull off an event and not have everyone know the big picture or the roll they are playing in said event. And you don't need that many people as you think to pull off something like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_(information_security)

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2015, 05:53:25 PM »
Xenomorphic paleotelengical negrocausian

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2015, 06:23:00 PM »
::) Jesus Christ, obsidian, you really have been brainwashed beyond any help. Shout about how there was no holocaust all you like, but the fact is  that the official Nazi documents, including large orders for Zyklon B and blueprints for gas chambers, eyewitness testimonies, not only from those in the camps, but the thousands of allied soldiers who freed them, the survivor accounts, the diary’s, the confessions from the Nazi’s who ADMITTED to “just following orders” during the Nuremberg trials; the photographs,videos, even the camps themselves...they refute every claim made by you morons.

For you to argue that millions of people, from all around the world, are manipulated by a few Jewish lobbyists, who have coordinated all of the events we see unfolding, to promote a Zionist agenda, only shows how deeply misinformed and ignorant you are.

Stop deluding yourself that you are involved in some sort of fight...you don't even know what the fight is or who it is against! All that you achieve by spreading this nonsense, is to denigrate any potential legitimate arguments made against Zionism in Israel, as well as our current issues with immigration.
"Holocaust" comes from the the Greek word holokauston, itself a translation of the Hebrew olah, meaning "completely burnt offering to God," Those jews that died in the camps were casualties of war that the jewish bankers found acceptable to implement their agenda. It allowed them to claim ultimate victim status and help create Israel. It has also been used as an effective means of silencing protests and objections to mass immigration into Europe by white people. "You are a racist or Nazi if you oppose this".

Fact is Germany was pushed into despair after the First World War. Hitler (with his jewish dna) was financed by western bankers and offerred as a solution to Germany. More Germans probably died in the bombing of Dresden alone than jews did in WW2.

I also wonder where this magical rounded off 6 million number comes from? How could they possibly know this?? The numbers have gone up over the decades. If you study the layout of the concentration camps and the number of ovens installed you will realize it is impossible to cremate millions of people in the time interval in which the concentration camps existed.

http://www.cwporter.com/bild3.htm



This three-dimensional diagram (93) was drawn by the Canadian geologist and air-photo specialist John C. Ball (see also chapter 10). The diagram is based on US air reconnaissance photos taken in 1944 as well as his own on-– the-spot investigations in 1993.

Photos 94 to 99 show building 8 of figure 93. First, it is obvious that the building (the alleged ‘gas chamber’) is clearly visible and accessible from all sides, while the camp itself is protected from curious onlookers on two sides by a wall. If the building had been used for the purpose of mass murder, the murderers would certainly have chosen a well-hidden spot or at least walled it in. the building, partly surrounded by a hill of dirt, was originally perhaps a munitions warehouse. The building was modified into a crematorium with adjacent morgue by the Germans. Later, after the rearrangement of the crematorium, the building was used as an air-raid bunker. Figures 110, 111 and 112 show the various conversions of this building.

According to the defenders of the genocide theory, mass murders were committed in the morgue starting at the end of 1941.


(94) The main entrance to the north was visible to thousands of inmates on their way to work outside the camp every day (see figure 93). To the left of the crematorium is the SS hospital (see number 7 in figure 93), the road is at the top. Escaping cyanide gas could easily penetrate the SS hospital, as occurred at Bophal (66). That the SS could have used Zyklon B in this building is therefore out of the question. The chimney in the background does not date back to the war, but was ‘reconstructed’ after the liberation.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2015, 06:32:31 PM »
Obsidian, I'm clearly talking to a brick wall here. As i said, i have no wish to engage in another long winded and platitudinous 9/11 debate. Go and re-read what i've said. Look again at your sources, Look at the motivations behind the people you get your information from. 

Have a think about your argument based on compartmentalization and see if you can spot why it doesn't make sense. Naturally, planning something like that would be done so with the strictest security imaginable, but i've explained to you why it would still involve huge amounts of people, who even if they were unaware of their exact role at the time, they sure as hell wouldn't have been afterwards. Go and search for the huge amount of scientific papers out there which debunk the conspiracy theory bullshit with facts and research, and have a read up on the history of Islamic terrorism too, as you GREATLY underestimate the capabilities and resources of these groups.
Show me an example of an independent peer reviewed scientific paper on 911 that debunk's any of the conspiracy theories.

How about the NIST computer model for WTC7?

FAQ #11: Does the NIST WTC 7 computer animation of the collapse prove that the skyscraper came down by fire?

No. The NIST WTC 7 computer animation of the collapse does not even remotely resemble the observations and actual video footage of the destruction in three main ways. A scientifically valid explanation of any phenomenon must account for the key observations. Moreover, a computer simulation does not constitute an explanation. It is merely a tool for determining and visualizing what might have happened if various assumptions are true.

NIST has refused to disclose the computer inputs of its mathematical models. This makes it impossible for anyone to check their work.

http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/faqs/733-faq-11-does-the-nist-wtc-7-computer-animation-of-the-collapse-prove-that-the-skyscraper-came-down-by-fire.html

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2015, 06:37:53 PM »
Fact is Germany was pushed into despair after the First World War. Hitler (with his jewish dna) was financed by western bankers and offerred as a solution to Germany.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2015, 11:45:44 PM »
True.

Thanks. Oh and to add more fuel to the "fire"...

http://www.mintpressnews.com/911-truth-movement-proposes-honoring-victims-by-questioning-official-narrative/209574/

Independent scientific inquiry in the 9/11 Truth movement
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth have presented a body of evidence which they say proves the presence of nano-thermite, a military grade incendiary capable of assisting in a controlled demolition, in the dust of the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

They are joined by other researchers, including physicist Steven Jones and theologian David Ray Griffin, who say there is ample evidence to convince an independent panel of investigators that the impact of the planes or the spilled jet fuel that melted the steel beams aren’t what ultimately caused the buildings to collapse. Rather, they say, the evidence points to the use of incendiary devices within the buildings’ internal steel columns to cause a uniform collapse, similar to what one might see when a building is brought down by controlled demolition.

In presentation after presentation, Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, has attempted to bring the attention of his colleagues, the media, and the public to discrepancies between what the National Institutes of Standards and Technology claims was the cause of the collapse of the buildings and what can be observed by studying video of the collapsing structures.

Gage and over 2,300 architects and engineers have signed a petition stating that the government’s scientific explanations do not add up and that the buildings could not have fallen at the speed they did without the uniform removal of the support structures from the lower half of the building.

Gage has been touring the country for years working to change the conversation on the science behind the collapse of the buildings.

“I want to encourage everybody to do something. We are all subject to the call of action by our conscience,” Gage told MintPress News on the sidelines of the events in New York. “It doesn’t take much to send out emails, and blog, and call your congressman.”

Gage and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth point to acceleration at or nearly free-fall speed, eyewitness accounts of explosions in the basements and lobbies of the buildings, the presence of thermite incendiaries in the dust of the building, as well as video which shows air being forced out of the building as it collapses. In a documentary titled “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” Gage claims that the air escaping is the result of “squibs,” or miniature explosive devices, placed throughout the building. “Videos show clouds of debris pulverized in mid-air and isolated explosive ejections, as many as 60 stories below the so-called ‘crush zone,’” Gage says in one clip.

The organization focuses on the collapse of the twin towers as well the collapse of World Trade Center 7, the 47-story building that fell later in the day despite not being hit by a plane.

Indeed, much of the 9/11 Truth community sees the collapse of Building 7 as the smoking gun which reveals the presence of explosives used to bring the buildings down. According to NIST, the building collapsed due to fires that spread throughout it. The 9/11 Truth community disputes the claims that fires were raging through the building, pointing to dark, black smoke which signals oxygen-starved fires.

 

‘Firefighters, Architects, Engineers: Expose the Myths of 9/11’
On Friday, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth partnered with the recently revived Firefighters for 9/11 Truth and Unity for the debut of a documentary presentation called “Firefighters, Architects, Engineers: Expose the Myths of 9/11.” Firefighters for 9/11 Truth and Unity is made up of former and current firefighters from fire departments around the nation who question the official version of events.

Erik Lawyer, the firefighter who founded the group in 2008, told MintPress that it was difficult to question the official narrative at first.

“I was having a hard time connecting to people. I felt like I couldn’t go anywhere, there was so much apathy around me,” Lawyer said. “I became a survivalist, started to shut down. I began a downward spiral so I stepped away from the Truth movement.”

He stepped away from the organization for five years, and during this time he says he had a “spiritual transformation.” Lawyer uses the fire department as a metaphor for building a conscious movement of critical thinkers. He aims to create “fire departments” that can address “fires” of the mind and help create solutions to the world’s problems, including uncovering the truth of 9/11.

“When I was invited to come back into the Truth movement I was only interested in doing so if we could focus on what we are for, and creating systems and uniting people,” Lawyer said.

Lawyer hosts monthly synchronized prayer events, as well as documentary screenings about his journey into the world of 9/11 Truth and the evidence for the controlled demolition theory.

The new documentary features the former firefighter giving a presentation on how he used the National Fire Protection Association’s own guidebook to prove that NIST’s investigation was incomplete. The NFPA 921: Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigation sets the national standard for how a fire investigation should be conducted. “Based on the damage we saw and the witness testimony, there should have been tests for explosives. NIST refused to test for explosives,” Lawyer told MintPress.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2015, 11:48:16 PM »
Thanks. Oh and to add more fuel to the "fire"...

http://www.mintpressnews.com/911-truth-movement-proposes-honoring-victims-by-questioning-official-narrative/209574/

Independent scientific inquiry in the 9/11 Truth movement
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth have presented a body of evidence which they say proves the presence of nano-thermite, a military grade incendiary capable of assisting in a controlled demolition, in the dust of the twin towers of the World Trade Center.

They are joined by other researchers, including physicist Steven Jones and theologian David Ray Griffin, who say there is ample evidence to convince an independent panel of investigators that the impact of the planes or the spilled jet fuel that melted the steel beams aren’t what ultimately caused the buildings to collapse. Rather, they say, the evidence points to the use of incendiary devices within the buildings’ internal steel columns to cause a uniform collapse, similar to what one might see when a building is brought down by controlled demolition.

In presentation after presentation, Richard Gage, a member of the American Institute of Architects and founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, has attempted to bring the attention of his colleagues, the media, and the public to discrepancies between what the National Institutes of Standards and Technology claims was the cause of the collapse of the buildings and what can be observed by studying video of the collapsing structures.

Gage and over 2,300 architects and engineers have signed a petition stating that the government’s scientific explanations do not add up and that the buildings could not have fallen at the speed they did without the uniform removal of the support structures from the lower half of the building.

Gage has been touring the country for years working to change the conversation on the science behind the collapse of the buildings.

“I want to encourage everybody to do something. We are all subject to the call of action by our conscience,” Gage told MintPress News on the sidelines of the events in New York. “It doesn’t take much to send out emails, and blog, and call your congressman.”

Gage and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth point to acceleration at or nearly free-fall speed, eyewitness accounts of explosions in the basements and lobbies of the buildings, the presence of thermite incendiaries in the dust of the building, as well as video which shows air being forced out of the building as it collapses. In a documentary titled “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out,” Gage claims that the air escaping is the result of “squibs,” or miniature explosive devices, placed throughout the building. “Videos show clouds of debris pulverized in mid-air and isolated explosive ejections, as many as 60 stories below the so-called ‘crush zone,’” Gage says in one clip.

The organization focuses on the collapse of the twin towers as well the collapse of World Trade Center 7, the 47-story building that fell later in the day despite not being hit by a plane.

Indeed, much of the 9/11 Truth community sees the collapse of Building 7 as the smoking gun which reveals the presence of explosives used to bring the buildings down. According to NIST, the building collapsed due to fires that spread throughout it. The 9/11 Truth community disputes the claims that fires were raging through the building, pointing to dark, black smoke which signals oxygen-starved fires.

 

‘Firefighters, Architects, Engineers: Expose the Myths of 9/11’
On Friday, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth partnered with the recently revived Firefighters for 9/11 Truth and Unity for the debut of a documentary presentation called “Firefighters, Architects, Engineers: Expose the Myths of 9/11.” Firefighters for 9/11 Truth and Unity is made up of former and current firefighters from fire departments around the nation who question the official version of events.

Erik Lawyer, the firefighter who founded the group in 2008, told MintPress that it was difficult to question the official narrative at first.

“I was having a hard time connecting to people. I felt like I couldn’t go anywhere, there was so much apathy around me,” Lawyer said. “I became a survivalist, started to shut down. I began a downward spiral so I stepped away from the Truth movement.”

He stepped away from the organization for five years, and during this time he says he had a “spiritual transformation.” Lawyer uses the fire department as a metaphor for building a conscious movement of critical thinkers. He aims to create “fire departments” that can address “fires” of the mind and help create solutions to the world’s problems, including uncovering the truth of 9/11.

“When I was invited to come back into the Truth movement I was only interested in doing so if we could focus on what we are for, and creating systems and uniting people,” Lawyer said.

Lawyer hosts monthly synchronized prayer events, as well as documentary screenings about his journey into the world of 9/11 Truth and the evidence for the controlled demolition theory.

The new documentary features the former firefighter giving a presentation on how he used the National Fire Protection Association’s own guidebook to prove that NIST’s investigation was incomplete. The NFPA 921: Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigation sets the national standard for how a fire investigation should be conducted. “Based on the damage we saw and the witness testimony, there should have been tests for explosives. NIST refused to test for explosives,” Lawyer told MintPress.

I appreciate your efforts but you won't change the opinion of anyone reading this.
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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2015, 09:16:04 AM »
Phil is obviously not 100% Hebrew. Original Hebrews from Africa are much darker and have different facial features - like Kai, Bolt, Ronnie etc.

I am thinking he is either part Caucasian and maybe Native American or Hispanic?? He is definitely not black. He does have the huge, wide nose though...



his ethnicity is "Narrow", originating for the tribe "Narrower Than", originally they were though to be extinct in bodybuilding but obvious not.  They can be seen pressing 4 plates on a smith machine to show their dominance.  When threatened they are known to grab their gucci man purse and run.  Another trait of the "Narrower than" tribe is ability to step beyond the white line when all others won't.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2015, 09:17:28 AM »
his ethnicity is "Narrow", originating for the tribe "Narrower Than", originally they were though to be extinct in bodybuilding but obvious not.  They can be seen pressing 4 plates on a smith machine to show their dominance.  When threatened they are known to grab their gucci man purse and run.  Another trait of the "Narrower than" tribe is ability to step beyond the white line when all others won't.

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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2015, 05:00:45 PM »
Obsidian, I don’t give a fuck what the original word “holocaust” supposedly means, please stop spamming with these brutal copy and paste jobs at least attempt to refute points made with your own opinions, if for no other reason than the comedy value it provides. What you have written here, is the ramblings of a madman. The bombing of Dresden, as terrible as it was, does not come even remotely close in terms of numbers, to the Jewish civilian deaths in world war two.


“Those jews that died in the camps were casualties of war that the jewish bankers found acceptable to implement their agenda”.
Do you actually read any of this incomprehensible bullshit you type? Those Jews, were men, women and children whose only crime was to be be of a race of people condemned to death through an industrialised process of genocide, by men that you idolise, defend, and seek to return to power, so that they can do it all over again. Your beliefs are every bit as divisive, dangerous and flawed as the islamic fundamentalists we fight today, and you should be fought just as hard. It's just a shame i'm constrained to do so verbally here.

You react to evidence in the same manner that a slug reacts to salt, and as i said earlier, your links are nothing more than demonstrably false articles, produced by  Neo-Nazi demagogues who are promoting an agenda to diminish the poisonous nature of Nazism.  Take your example of the “air-photo specialist” John C. Ball. The man was found in court, to be nothing of the sort and was rejected as a witness because he was found to be not suitably qualified in any way, as an “aerial photo specialist”.  He had no academic credentials to make such claims, and was subsequently exposed as a fraud, yet you cite this man as an authority, whose theories can somehow nullify the eyewitness testimonies of everyone who was actually there, both victims and perpetrators.

The rest of the bullshit in your link, has already been so comprehensively debunked, that no rational individual without an agenda, could possible cling to such a ridiculously untenable position with regards to the holocaust being faked. Rather than sticking rigidly to the propagandised bullshit in the links you read, go and read up on all the evidence there is refuting it from sources which don't try and promote white supremacy, as it saves me having to spam with pages and pages of text.

I mentioned earlier how you make claims with authority, regarding matters which you have zero expertise in, such as the capabilities of crematoriums, or the properties of the gasses used to exterminate the jews and your response to this is to simply keep repeating them!
Claims that the 52 Auschwitz furnaces could not have had the capacity to burn thousands corpses per day because modern commercial crematoriums don't have such a capacity, have been falsified many times now by experts, Who have pointed out that there's no comparison between ordinary commercial crematoriums and those built in the camps, for a variety of reasons - e.g. coffins were not used, one can cremate more than one corpse at a time, etc.

The number of between 5 and 6 million killed in the concentration camps and German occupied countries has been established through years of careful research by various historians and officials who have examined a variety of unbiased sources such as pre-war/postwar censuses (which have been falsified many times by deniers so fuck off with posting them); names of victims, Nazi documents containing data on the deportations and murders, as well as the fact that We've seen the pictures of the mountains of bodies, we've seen the footage of the extermination process, as well as the mass graves that resulted from it. We've heard the testimonies from SS officials, allied soldiers and survivors of the camps. Open your fucking eyes and see what’s right in front of you. Even the infamous revisionist, David Irving, has stated that as many as four million Jews may have died in the concentration camps.

“in the late 1930's the Nazis killed thousands of handicapped Germans by lethal injection and poisonous gas. After the German invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, mobile killing units following in the wake of the German Army began shooting massive numbers of Jews and Roma (Gypsies) in open fields and ravines on the outskirts of conquered cities and towns. Eventually the Nazis created a more secluded and organized method of killing enormous numbers of civilians -- six extermination centres were established in occupied Poland where large-scale murder by gas and body disposal by cremation were systematically conducted. Victims were deported to these centre's from Western Europe and from the ghettos in Eastern Europe which the Nazis had established. In addition, millions died in the ghettos and concentration camps as a result of forced labour, starvation, exposure, brutality, disease and execution.” (humanitas-international)
Starving them, gassing them, shooting them, working them to death; the goal was to wipe them out by any means necessary and there isn't one method any less unjustifiable than any other; the ballpark figures on the deaths are accurate.



You also conflate the event’s of the holocaust and world war two, with the current issue’s of Israel and Palestine because you’re a moron who hasn't bothered to learn anything about the history of the topics you take such a forceful stance on.
Repatriations paid to Israel after world war two, under the Luxembourg agreement in 1952, were agreed as part of a compensation plan for the huge loss of life and property belonging to the Jews, and huge amounts of Jewish people were vehemently opposed to the idea, as they viewed the acceptance of it as the equivalent of forgiving the Nazi’s for their crimes.
It is clear that Israel obviously benefited economically from this, but the establishment of an Israeli state would have been accomplished without world war two, and if anything, the War and the Holocaust were events which actually forced a suspension in the Zionists fight for Independence. The issues between Israel and Palestine began long before world war two, and for you to point the finger solely at “Jewish bankers” shows that you have no understanding of Britain’s role, and the United Nations in all of this, amongst various other factors.. Rather than trying to re-write history, why don’t you go and study it?
If you want to know true history, you should read the history of the losers of wars. "History" is written by the victor and not always true.

The Dresden Bombings was horrendous and the true casualties will never be admitted. Some estimates put it at over 500,000. Of course the official causalties as declared by the "victors" will be much less - 40,000 or lower. Because it does not play into their narative of portaying Germans as evil Nazis. Germans can't be victims. Look at the terrible anti-German Brad Pitt movies to get an idea how hollywood wishes to portray Germany. And now they want to wipe them out via mass immigration. The German people really are the victims. Not fake jews.

Here are some pictures of Germans that were killed in the Dresden bombings.

Dresden, before and after


















The number of German civilians killed in WW2 greatly exceeds fake jews killed.

I don't believe that bullshit 5-6 million figure for a second. It was fabricated. The World Almanac numbers were revised afterwards by fake jews to play into their narrative.

Yes sure, some jews suffered in the war and died in concentration camps. As did Germans, Russians, Americans, English men etc.. Stop playing this victim "holocaust" card. You weren't the only victim and many more white Europeans died than jews did. And if the fake jews succeed in their social engineering agenda the White Europeans will be abdicated in their own homelands where they've lived for thousands of years.

These social engineers are the ultimate evil scumbags. Do you condone what they are trying to achieve???

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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2015, 05:08:15 PM »

You also conflate the event’s of the holocaust and world war two, with the current issue’s of Israel and Palestine because you’re a moron who hasn't bothered to learn anything about the history of the topics you take such a forceful stance on.
Repatriations paid to Israel after world war two, under the Luxembourg agreement in 1952, were agreed as part of a compensation plan for the huge loss of life and property belonging to the Jews, and huge amounts of Jewish people were vehemently opposed to the idea, as they viewed the acceptance of it as the equivalent of forgiving the Nazi’s for their crimes.
It is clear that Israel obviously benefited economically from this, but the establishment of an Israeli state would have been accomplished without world war two, and if anything, the War and the Holocaust were events which actually forced a suspension in the Zionists fight for Independence. The issues between Israel and Palestine began long before world war two, and for you to point the finger solely at “Jewish bankers” shows that you have no understanding of Britain’s role, and the United Nations in all of this, amongst various other factors.. Rather than trying to re-write history, why don’t you go and study it?
Why are jews in Israel in the first place? That's the land of Palestinians. Those Ashkenazi jews in Israel can go back to Georgia where they originated from before converting to "Judaism".

Fake jews are not victims - they are aggressors. Stop trying to fool the world. Many people realize this is all a scam.

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« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2015, 05:22:09 PM »




Oh cry me a river. What about the millions of Ukrainians killed and starved to death by "Jews" in the 1930s?
http://holodomorinfo.com/

Holodomor means "to inflict death by hunger, kill or drive to death by hunger, exhausting work". The neologism "Holodomor" is given in the modern, two-volume dictionary of the Ukrainian language as "artificial hunger, organised in vast scale by the criminal regime against the country's population." Sometimes the expression is translated into English as "murder by hunger or starvation."







http://globalfire.tv/nj/09en/jews/holodomor.htm
It all begun in 1917: "Every ordinary Russian faced a Jew as his judge and as his exe-cutioner. Where ever the Russian went, he met a Jew in a superior position to him." (Sonja Margolina, "Das Ende der Lügen" The End of the Lies, Siedler Publishing House, Berlin 1992, page 60) "The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish planning and Jewish dissatisfaction. Our Plan is to have a New World Order. What worked so wonderfully in Russia is going to become Reality for the whole world." (The American Hebrew Magazine, New York, Sep. 10, 1920) More than 50 Million people were murdered during this era under Jewish commissars. However, when nowadays timid Goyim try to bring these crimes, universally unique, to justice, Jews squeal "this is unfair, it incites interethnic hatred." However, forcing a 90 year-old innocent man (John Demjanjuk) on a stretcher into a stooge court-room in Germany, that is perfectly all right. Read on:

Jewish group objects to "Great Famine" case

June 15, 2009

KIEV, Ukraine (JTA) -- A Jewish group in Ukraine is objecting to a criminal case brought over the "Great Famine" committed in the 1930s.

The nation's security service is pressing the case against a list of former Soviet officials accused of committing the Holodomor, which caused the deaths of millions in Ukraine in 1932-33. Most of the names on the list were Jewish.

Ukrainian lawmaker Aleksandr Feldman, leader of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee, said last week that it was "a farce" to press the case.

"All organizers of the Great Famine are dead," he said.

Last July, the Ukrainian Security Service released a list of high-ranking Soviet state and Communist Party officials -- as well as officials from NKVD, the police force of Soviet Russia -- that essentially blamed Jews and Latvians responsible for perpetrating and executing the famine because most of the names on the list were Jewish.

The Ukrainian Jewish Committee called on the secret service to revise the list, which incited interethnic hatred, in order to clear up the "inaccuracy."

Feldman believes there is a danger that the "Holodomor Affair" materials are being used for political purposes.

In late May, security service head Valentin Nalivaychenko claimed at a meeting with representatives of the World Congress of Ukrainians that "Ukraine has collected enough evidence to bring a criminal case regarding the famine, which was artificially created by the Bolshevik regime and caused mass death of citizens."

Through the World Congress of Ukrainians, Nalivaychenko turned to leading foreign lawyers with a request to help find out the circumstances connected with preparing and committing the genocide.

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« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2015, 05:41:32 PM »

Claims that the 52 Auschwitz furnaces could not have had the capacity to burn thousands corpses per day because modern commercial crematoriums don't have such a capacity, have been falsified many times now by experts, Who have pointed out that there's no comparison between ordinary commercial crematoriums and those built in the camps, for a variety of reasons - e.g. coffins were not used, one can cremate more than one corpse at a time, etc.
The numbers are bullshit.

Auschwitz - Myths & Facts

By Mark Weber
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Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime concentration camp where many prisoners -- most of them Jewish -- were reportedly exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is widely regarded as the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The camp's horrific reputation cannot, however, be reconciled with the facts.
 
Scholars Challenge Holocaust Story
 
Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers have been challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These "revisionist" scholars do not dispute the fact that large numbers of Jews were deported to the camp, or that many died there, particularly of typhus and other diseases. But the compelling evidence they present shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination center and that the story of mass killings in "gas chambers" is a myth.
 
The Auschwitz Camps
 
The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now south-central Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there between 1942 and mid-1944.
 
The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or Auschwitz III, was a large industrial center where gasoline was produced from coal. In addition there were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted to the war economy.
 
Four Million Victims?
 
At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was invented by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years. It often appeared in major American newspapers and magazines, for example. [1]
 
Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept the extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally acknowledge the familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, suddenly announced that altogether perhaps one million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died there. Neither institution would say how many of these people were killed, nor were any estimates given of the numbers of those supposedly gassed. [2] One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald Reitlinger, has estimated that perhaps 700,000 or so Jews perished at Auschwitz. More recently, Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac has estimated that about 800,000 persons -- of whom 630,000 were Jewish -- perished at Auschwitz. While even such lower figures are incorrect, they show how the Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the years. [3]
 
Bizarre Tales
 
At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically electrocuted at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet eyewitness report from liberated Auschwitz, told readers in February 1945 that the methodical Germans had killed Jews there using an "electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of persons could be electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into furnaces. They were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer for nearby cabbage fields." [4]
 
And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [5] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales.
 
The Höss 'Confession'
 
A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by the U.S. prosecution at the main Nuremberg trial. [6]
 
Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz extermination story, it is actually a false statement that was obtained by torture.
 
Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant Bernard Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers tortured the former commandant to obtain his "confession." Höss himself privately explained his ordeal in these words: "Certainly, I signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews. I could just as well have said that it was five million Jews. There are certain methods by which any confession can be obtained, whether it is true or not." [7]
 
Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination story now acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in the Höss "affidavit" are simply not true. For one thing, no serious scholar now claims that anything like two and a half or three million people perished in Auschwitz.
 
The Höss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being exterminated by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps: Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek. The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by Höss is a total invention. No such camp existed, and the name is no longer mentioned in Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story these days by those who believe in the Holocaust legend is that gassings of Jews did not begin at Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Belzec until sometime in 1942.
 
No Documentary Evidence
 
Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a policy or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story cannot be reconciled with the documentary evidence.
 
Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work
 
For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were unable to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young, sick, or weak were supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who could be worked to death were temporarily kept alive.
 
But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed. For example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of the remaining Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to work. [8]
 
This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on "security measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS concentration camp system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a total of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized or disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of whom "approximately 15,000 are unable to work." [9]
 
These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz extermination story.
 
The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily as a camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and elderly, as well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment to other camps. That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University, who also says that this was the reason for the unusually high death rate there. [10]
 
Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish, acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural" causes than were executed. [11]
 
Anne Frank
 
Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known around the world for her famous diary. But few people know that thousands of Jews, including Anne and her father, Otto Frank, "survived" Auschwitz.
 
The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands to Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of the advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other Jews to the Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March 1945.
 
Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews who were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January 1945, shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in Switzerland in 1980.
 
If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they would not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was, cannot be reconciled with the extermination story.
 
Allied Propaganda
 
The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any evidence of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.
 
Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [12]
 
Survivor Testimony
 
Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of extermination at Auschwitz.
 
An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz.
 
Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads.
 
Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the death of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and quite a few committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass killings, gassings, or of any extermination program. [13]
 
A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gas chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing stories only later. [14]
 
Inmates Released
 
Auschwitz internees who had served their sentences were released and returned to their home countries. If Auschwitz had actually been a top secret extermination center, the Germans would certainly not have released inmates who "knew" what was happening in the camp. [15]
 
Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
 
In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially typhus, the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm counter-measures.
 
The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered:
 
 
The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp commandants ... The camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as possible.
 
 
Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." [16]
 
German Camp Regulations
 
Official German camp regulations make clear that Auschwitz was not an extermination center. They ordered: [17]
 
 
New arrivals in the camp are to be given a thorough medical examination, and if there is any doubt [about their health], they must be sent to quarantine for observation.
 
Prisoners who report sick must be examined that same day by the camp physician. If necessary, the physician must transfer the prisoners to a hospital for professional treatment.
 
The camp physician must regularly inspect the kitchen regarding the preparation of the food and the quality of the food supply. Any deficiencies that may arise must be reported to the camp commandant.
 
Special care should be given in the treatment of accidents, in order not to impair the full productivity of the prisoners.
 
Prisoners who are to be released or transfered must first be brought before the camp physician for medical examination.
 
Telltale Aerial Photos
 
Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged extermination period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These photos show no trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys or masses of Jews awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly alleged, and all of which would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz had been the extermination center it is said to have been. [18]
 
Absurd Cremation Claims
 
Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and summer of 1944 at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.
 
For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary, Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation story is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000 corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in crematories and open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond the realm of reality," he declared under oath. [19]
 
Gassing Expert Refutes Extermination Story
 
America's leading gas chamber expert, Boston engineer Fred A. Leuchter, carefully examined the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and concluded that the Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically impossible.
 
Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state penitentiary.
 
In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto court and in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his investigation.
 
He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing facilities could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were not properly sealed or vented to kill human beings without also killing German camp personnel. [20]
 
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a careful on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider it absolutely impossible." [21]
 
Summary
 
The Auschwitz extermination story originated as wartime propaganda. Now, more than 60 years after the end of the Second World War, it is time to take another, more objective look at this highly polemicized chapter of history. The Auschwitz legend is the core of the Holocaust story. If hundreds of thousands of Jews were not systematically killed there, as alleged, one of the great myths of our time collapses.
 
Artificially maintaining the hatreds and passions of the past prevents genuine reconciliation and lasting peace. Revisionism promotes historical awareness and international understanding. That is why the work of the Institute for Historical Review is so important and deserves your support.
 
Notes
 
1. Nuremberg document 008-USSR. IMT blue series, Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261.; NC
and A red series, vol. 1, p. 35.; C.L. Sulzberger, "Oswiecim Killings Placed
at 4,000,000," New York Times, May 8, 1945, and, New York Times, Jan. 31, 1986,
p. A4.
2. Y. Bauer, "Fighting the Distortions," Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept. 22,
1989; "Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million," Daily Telegraph (London), July
17, 1990; "Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million," The
Washington Times, July 17, 1990.
3. G. Reitlinger, The Final Solution (1971); J.-C. Pressac, Le Crématoires
d'Auschwitz: La Machinerie du meurtre de mass (Paris: CNRS, 1993). On Pressac's
estimates, see: L'Express (France), Sept. 30, 1993, p. 33.
4. Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, pp. 2, 35. (United Press
dispatch from Moscow).
5. IMT blue series, Vol. 16, p. 529-530. (June 21, 1946).
6. Nuremberg document 3868-PS (USA-819). IMT blue series, Vol. 33, pp.
275-279.
7. Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England: 1983), pp. 235; R. Faurisson,
The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.
8. Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German document
No. 128, in: H. Eschwege, ed., Kennzeichen J (East Berlin: 1966), p. 264.
9. Nuremberg document NO-021. NMT green series, Vol. 5. pp. 384-385.
10. Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (Costa Mesa, Calif.), p.
124.
11. Arno Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The 'Final Solution' in
History (Pantheon, 1989), p. 365.
12. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT green series, Vol. 8, p. 606.
13. Testimony in Toronto District Court, March 28, 1988. Toronto Star, March
29, 1988, p. A2.
14. Sylvia Rothchild, ed., Voices from the Holocaust (New York: 1981), pp.
188-191.
15. Walter Laqueur, The Terrible Secret (Boston: 1981), p. 169.
16. Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2. NC&A red series, Vol. 4, pp.
833-834.
17. "Rules and Regulations for the Concentration Camps." Anthology, Inhuman
Medicine, Vol. 1, Part 1 (Warsaw: International Auschwitz Committee, 1970), pp.
149-151.; S. Paskuly, ed., Death Dealer: the Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at
Auschwitz (Buffalo: 1992), pp. 216-217.
18. Dino A. Brugioni and Robert C. Poirier, The Holocaust Revisited
(Washington, DC: Central Intelligence Agency, 1979).
19. Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), April 14, 1988, p. 6.
20. The Leuchter Report: An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Gas
Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek (Toronto: 1988). Available for
$17.00, postpaid, from the IHR.
21. The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Feb. 12, 1985, p. M3
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About the Author
 
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history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich,
Portland State University and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For nine years he
served as editor of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review.
 
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Re: What's Phil's ethnicity?
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2015, 06:10:22 PM »
The numbers are bullshit.



I bet you believe that 9/11 was all BS too

Based on your post history you seem to always bash Jews. I find it interesting that it is well documented that over 6 million Jewish died between 1939-1945. 35% of them under the age of 22. This is documented by the Germans themselves.

About 70 million humans died in WWII, again well documented.

You are a disgrace to the human race, it is people like you that cause all current and future genocides.