NASA about to make a mysterious announcement about Mars

[muscularny]

what is the % chance of "life" on mars if there was flowing water?   Is it a near-certainty, or just one of the required pre-requisites?

mars has been around for almost as long as earth has been around, so ever if there is no life there now there is a chance there was life there way back when. They plan on sending some serious equipment up to do some drilling etc.

My guess is we will find out that an advanced civilization lived on mars and they populated earth just like we are about to do to mars

[Man of Steel]

mars has been around for almost as long as earth has been around, so ever if there is no life there now there is a chance there was life there way back when. They plan on sending some serious equipment up to do some drilling etc.

My guess is we will find out that an advanced civilization lived on mars and they populated earth just like we are about to do to mars

Basically Barsoom came to Jasoom and now Jasoom is returning to Barsoom?

[King Shizzo]

I guess the first assumption is that God's creative efforts were difficult or troublesome for him.   Scripture indicates that as far as our existence is concerned he simply "spoke and it came to be".

Scripture indicates that the "heavens declare the glory of God".   I think his creation also illustrates the vastness between his infinitude and our finitude.  In other words, it helps us better understand who we are subject to and what he's capable of......respect might be a consideration.  

I think the complexities of why we are here are incredible, but more than the complexities themselves is the improbability of those complexities arising on their own - that's far more unfathomable to me.  

Further still, it's hard for me to buy into the random exploding of nothing into something (via no trigger) and then further explosions of the smaller somethings (ex: stars) and their swirling remains slowly coalescing from a state of chaos into order and then slowly evolving from one type of thing to an entirely different thing with no source of control....ultimately only time as the agent of change.   That's a tall order to swallow for me, but that's me.  I couple that with the special revelation of God's goodness, grace, mercy and love in my life and I'm hard pressed to eliminate a universal singularity (aka God).

I love ya MOS, but this statement is pretty ironic, considering all of the fantastical things that Christians must have "faith" in.

But that is why I don't pretend to have any answers when it comes to these things. The universe is infinite. Really? That in itself boggles my mind and makes me realize that I was never meant to understand the complexities of life.

[Man of Steel]

I love ya MOS, but this statement is pretty ironic, considering all of the fantastical things that Christians must have "faith" in.

But that is why I don't pretend to have any answers when it comes to these things. The universe is infinite. Really? That in itself boggles my mind and makes me realize that I was never meant to understand the complexities of life.

Right back at ya!

The thing to consider is that faith doesn't remain blind.  Faith matures and grows rock solid.....it's full assurance in the heart of God's reality and existence.  Believers in Jesus Christ know his reality via the Holy Spirit in our lives.  We feel the presence of God in powerful ways.  Our individual relationships with God are personal and because of that he often provides us special revelations of his divinity in unique ways...sometimes quiet, sometimes powerful, sometimes in moments of pain, sometimes in moments of prayer, sometimes in moments of worship, sometimes via his word, but always beyond ourselves.   God awaits his children to come unto him and the narrow gate is open....up to us to walk through it in humility and surrender.  Only way is through Jesus Christ.  

[Dave D]

How would finding life on another planet prove/disprove anything in the bible?

There's no scripture that states life is only found on earth.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

They are still trying to cover it up, but NASA also found an ancient seated calf machine on Mars.....

It was a bicep machine

[The Abdominal Snoman]

They will never release any info on advanced life ever living on Mars. Hell, they do everything they can to hide info of advanced life living on Earth way before our time...

[Dave D]

They will never release any info on advanced life ever living on Mars. Hell, they do everything they can to hide info of advanced life living on Earth way before our time...

This

[El Diablo Blanco]

How would finding life on another planet prove/disprove anything in the bible?

There's no scripture that states life is only found on earth.

The bible was written when they didn't even know of planets, thought the sun revolved around the earth, thought the earth was flat and that heaven was in the clouds and hell in the center of the earth.

[Donny]

The bible was written when they didn't even know of planets, thought the sun revolved around the earth, thought the earth was flat and that heaven was in the clouds and hell in the center of the earth.

look at the old painting and scripts. Our Father was a God yes but not what we think. All Religions speak of God. I think it was various visitors.

[Thong Maniac]

Right back at ya!

The thing to consider is that faith doesn't remain blind.  Faith matures and grows rock solid.....it's full assurance in the heart of God's reality and existence.  Believers in Jesus Christ know his reality via the Holy Spirit in our lives.  We feel the presence of God in powerful ways.  Our individual relationships with God are personal and because of that he often provides us special revelations of his divinity in unique ways...sometimes quiet, sometimes powerful, sometimes in moments of pain, sometimes in moments of prayer, sometimes in moments of worship, sometimes via his word, but always beyond ourselves.   God awaits his children to come unto him and the narrow gate is open....up to us to walk through it in humility and surrender.  Only way is through Jesus Christ.  

Yep, and this creepy rhetoric is the reason why religion will continue to divide, destroy and annilihate any culture that lets its claws grab hold and stay. MOS shows u what can happen when people allow themselves to be brainwashed. Man what a creepy statement, nothing can shake this shit from a poisoned mind. This is why people die over religion every single day and why it will continue until we are all gone.

[Man of Steel]

How would finding life on another planet prove/disprove anything in the bible?

There's no scripture that states life is only found on earth.

This is correct.  There also isn't any scripture that says there isn't life anywhere else in the universe.

I wouldn't be surprised if we find life in the universe, but I wouldn't expect it to be life that has a soul or is even soulish ("nephash" creatures in the hebrew).

I would expect simpler forms of life.   Given that scripture indicates that all of God's creation was marred by the fall (via sin) it would seem that other life with a soul would be subject to God's law and therefore require Christ's redemptive act on Calvary's cross to make them righteous.  In scripture it says because of God's creation people are without excuse.  Despite God's creation extending to the entirety of the universe it is people that are human and humanity is that of earth.  

Further, scripture states that "God loved the world so he gave his only Son".  The word "world" is cosmos/kosmos in the Koine greek and refers to the world or universe by theological lexicon definition.   Jesus nature is dual in that he is both human and divine and whose image is that of humanity (man) now and forever.....we alone are made in that image.  That would seem to me that according to scripture other life in the universe would not be human and lesser than humanity not requiring Christ's redemptive act as they are essentially without blame (sin) and not subject to God's law.   Further when Christ died on Calvary's cross prior to giving up his spirit he said "it is finished" or "tetelestai" in the greek.  A more expanded translation of this greek is "it is finished (and nothing can be added to it)".  That said, I wouldn't add (or take away) anything from Christ's redemptive work in that it was good and complete for humanity's sake alone.

Additionally, given that humanity is deemed greater in position than that of God's angelic host which resides with God outside of time and space that would seem to me that the angels are superior to other potential live in the universe (with the exception of humanity).

It's an opinion LOL.

[Man of Steel]

Yep, and this creepy rhetoric is the reason why religion will continue to divide, destroy and annilihate any culture that lets its claws grab hold and stay. MOS shows u what can happen when people allow themselves to be brainwashed. Man what a creepy statement, nothing can shake this shit from a poisoned mind. This is why people die over religion every single day and why it will continue until we are all gone.

God loves you too Thong Maniac  ; unfortunately for many in a state of unbelief "the word of the cross is foolishness".  Yet where one sees an offense another sees grace.  While you still have breathe it's not to late to seek grace my friend.

[Thong Maniac]

God loves you too Thong Maniac  ; unfortunately for many in a state of unbelief "the word of the cross is foolishness".  Yet where one sees an offense another sees grace.  While you still have breathe it's never to late to seek grace my friend.

Ok thanks

[Dave D]

The bible was written when they didn't even know of planets, thought the sun revolved around the earth, thought the earth was flat and that heaven was in the clouds and hell in the center of the earth.

I'm not trying to nitpick you here, but today there's still so much about the universe we don't know, much like the Bible authors didn't know about planets. Off the top of my head I can't recall any scripture that refers the sun revolving around the earth, or the earth being flat, yet the was the predominant belief/ science at the time.  Technically Christians still believe heaven to be in the "clouds" and the scientific community believes the earth to have a molten core at its center (fire and whatnot = hell).

I get why people don't like religious fanatics, and I understand how simple and closed minded religious people can be.
Croatch, Avxo and SF1900 , among many others here, have made some well thought out points in regards to religious nuts, and superstitions.

That said, and getting back to my main point the bible speaks of angels and demons (living beings) coming from heaven (an area where angels reside that's not of the earth, that the book of revelation offers dimensions of, something a smaller planet).

It's preposterous and foolish to insinuate that the authors of the Bible didn't believe in life on other planets, and a discovery of such wouldn't and shouldn't destroy a faith but only reinforce it.

Meltdown over

[Irongrip400]

Anyone ever see Mission to Mars with Gary Sinese and Don Chedel? Great movie, and the end tries to explain our beginnings and that we came from Mars. Awesome movie, it's in my top 20.

[Thong Maniac]

I'm not trying to nitpick you here, but today there's still so much about the universe we don't know, much like the Bible authors didn't know about planets. Off the top of my head I can't recall any scripture that refers the sun revolving around the earth, or the earth being flat, yet the was the predominant belief/ science at the time.  Technically Christians still believe heaven to be in the "clouds" and the scientific community believes the earth to have a molten core at its center (fire and whatnot = hell).

I get why people don't like religious fanatics, and I understand how simple and closed minded religious people can be.
Croatch, Avxo and SF1900 , among many others here, have made some well thought out points in regards to religious nuts, and superstitions.

That said, and getting back to my main point the bible speaks of angels and demons (living beings) coming from heaven (an area where angels reside that's not of the earth, that the book of revelation offers dimensions of, something a smaller planet).

It's preposterous and foolish to insinuate that the authors of the Bible didn't believe in life on other planets, and a discovery of such wouldn't and shouldn't destroy a faith but only reinforce it.

Meltdown over

The men or people who wrote the bible absolutely did not "believe" in other life out there, as they probably had no idea or concept that the balls of light in the sky might be what we now call "planets". To them, earth or their world was the only world possible or imaginable and known.. Unless im wrong, 2000 years ago, there was no concept of "planets" to humans at that time

[Dave D]

The men or people who wrote the bible absolutely did not "believe" in other life out there, as they probably had no idea or concept that the balls of light in the sky might be planets. To them, earth or their world was the only world possible or imaginable. Unless im wrong, 2000 years ago, there was no concept of "planets" to humans at that time

I respectfully disagree, based on the simple fact that these men communicated with a  God/ divine being that according  to their scripture states ( Isaiah  66:1)
This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?

This people had an awareness or a belief in something greater than their self that was not of this world.  It's the whole basis of their faith.

[Palumboism]

The Guardian
Nasa scientists find evidence of flowing water on Mars

Liquid water runs down canyons and crater walls over the summer months on Mars, according to researchers who say the discovery raises the chances of being home to some form of life.

The trickles leave long, dark stains on the Martian terrain that can reach hundreds of metres downhill in the warmer months, before they dry up in the autumn as surface temperatures drop.

Images taken from the Mars orbit show cliffs, and the steep walls of valleys and craters, streaked with summertime flows that in the most active spots combine to form intricate fan-like patterns.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars

[Thong Maniac]

I respectfully disagree, based on the simple fact that these men communicated with a  God/ divine being that according  to their scripture states ( Isaiah  66:1)
This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?

This people had an awareness or a belief in something greater than their self that was not of this world.  It's the whole basis of their faith.

Umm, i respectfully would like to know what any of this post is about. In not one way did you touch on what i said...

Again...The men or people who wrote the bible absolutely did not "believe" in other life out there, as they probably had no idea or concept that the balls of light in the sky might be what we now call "planets". To them, earth or their world was the only world possible or imaginable and known.. Unless im wrong, 2000 years ago, there was no concept of "planets" to humans at that time.

The last sentence is key

[Dave D]

Umm, i respectfully would like to know what any of this post is about. In not one way did you touch on what i said...

The men or people who wrote the bible absolutely did not "believe" in other life out there, as they probably had no idea or concept that the balls of light in the sky might be what we now call "planets". To them, earth or their world was the only world possible or imaginable and known.. Unless im wrong, 2000 years ago, there was no concept of "planets" to humans at that time

You said they didn't believe in other life out there, I showed you text from the book of Isaiah, estimated to be written around 700 bc, that states their God, who is not a human and who they believe all life comes from, doesn't live on nor is from this earth/planet.

Their very faith is in the belief of some other nonhuman living being not of the earth.

[King Shizzo]

The Guardian
Nasa scientists find evidence of flowing water on Mars

Liquid water runs down canyons and crater walls over the summer months on Mars, according to researchers who say the discovery raises the chances of being home to some form of life.

The trickles leave long, dark stains on the Martian terrain that can reach hundreds of metres downhill in the warmer months, before they dry up in the autumn as surface temperatures drop.

Images taken from the Mars orbit show cliffs, and the steep walls of valleys and craters, streaked with summertime flows that in the most active spots combine to form intricate fan-like patterns.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/28/nasa-scientists-find-evidence-flowing-water-mars

I highly doubt its drinkable water. Meaning it would be useless for all the life forms that inhabit the earth.

So why would it be classified as water (as we know water to be)?

Might as well drink bleach.

[Thong Maniac]

You said they didn't believe in other life out there, I showed you text from the book of Isaiah, estimated to be written around 700 bc, that states their God, who is not a human and who they believe all life comes from, doesn't live on nor is from this earth/planet.

Their very faith is in the belief of some other nonhuman living being not of the earth.

I Really have no idea what your rambling about...
You said this..".It's preposterous and foolish to insinuate that the authors of the Bible didn't believe in life on other planets, and a discovery of such wouldn't and shouldn't destroy a faith but only reinforce it."

And i answered by saying there was no concept of "planets" at that time. They were just blinking lights in the sky. Humans/primates did not know those were what we now call planets.

Your trolling me or you are not understanding basic questions/comments. You are complicating an other wise very straight forward discussion

[Marty Champions]

I highly doubt its drinkable water. Meaning it would be useless for all the life forms that inhabit the earth.

So why would it be classified as water (as we know water to be)?

Might as well drink bleach.

dont worry shizzo no mars mission in u r future

[Tapeworm]

I'd send you to mars any day, Shizzo.