Many here are so stupid, I'm sorry to say. "He must have been natural until he hooked up with Chad, got gyno and made crazy gains". People just don't understand that
there are different levels of juicing! Many otherwise smart and experienced people in the industry have claimed Ronnie even won one pro show natural
What happened when Ronnie made that big leap to become Mr O: jacked up the steroids from his previous baloney cycles, got on a high dose of growth with insulin on top.