Oppressed white farmers occupy federal building in Oregon

[Andy Griffin]

11 pages?

the ghey has gotten strong on getbig

[Kazan]

11 pages?

Kinda funny isn't it, hell there are threads all over the place about the "police state", then when people stand up to .gov, they are attacked.

[calfzilla]

So again, I ask you.

Can a cop tell you are gay when you are being pulled over or stopped for some reason?

Do you believe that it equates to being instantly identified as black?

I'm with you, I don't see gays needing to be fearful of the police. In the first place, unless you are a major flamer, how would the police even know you are gay? Even as there were more issues with gays regarding police, it would have to be so small and minuscule compared to what blacks endure. Maybe Tim is just the type of far left leaning liberal that gets enjoyment out of being a victim. Or perhaps it's different where he lives, Australia I think?

[polychronopolous]

you lived to tell about it.

Sandra Bland was pulled over for a traffic stop (one that the car video showed to be completely bogus), arrested when she should have only gotten a citation, and ended up dead in the jail cell.  The Grand Jury declined to indict.

Nobody is buying your bullshit lies, tom. Go be "bearded white liberal 45 year old man who plays with kittens" and leave us be.

[TuHolmes]

Kinda funny isn't it, hell there are threads all over the place about the "police state", then when people stand up to .gov, they are attacked.

Who is being attacked?

[calfzilla]

Kinda funny isn't it, hell there are threads all over the place about the "police state", then when people stand up to .gov, they are attacked.

This!

[240 is Back]

good point.

If you punch a cop, you deserve to be shot in the head.  Cool.

BUT if you and 50 friends decide to take over a public building with rifles and promise to murder... well, it's cool, you're a patriot.

[andreisdaman]

good point.

If you punch a cop, you deserve to be shot in the head.  Cool.

BUT if you and 50 friends decide to take over a public building with rifles and promise to murder... well, it's cool, you're a patriot.

 

[Kazan]

good point.

If you punch a cop, you deserve to be shot in the head.  Cool.

BUT if you and 50 friends decide to take over a public building with rifles and promise to murder... well, it's cool, you're a patriot.

You just type whatever pops into your head with no proof to back it up, good thing you aren't out there with you shit trigger discipline, you would have either shot someone or blown your own foot off.

[240 is Back]

on this thread, on getbig...

at some point, the people defending them are just going to get quiet, stop posting.  Happens a lot.

The more we hear about these dudes... what they're protesting (2 dudes found guilty of TERRORISM?) and the more we hear about their threats of violence, the LESS we're going to have people calling them patriots.

I bet Glen Beck is cautiously quiet on this, Rush is classically over-reactive, and Hannity just wants to blame Obama/Reid for the entire situation

[NarcissisticDeity]

You just type whatever pops into your head with no proof to back it up, good thing you aren't out there with you shit trigger discipline, you would have either shot someone or blown your own foot off.

 

Anyone take this clown seriously? The Feds would label him a " domestic terrorist " if they saw this pic lmao

[andreisdaman]

You just type whatever pops into your head with no proof to back it up, good thing you aren't out there with you shit trigger discipline, you would have either shot someone or blown your own foot off.

I know you are an anti-government advocate and I have to give you credit because even though I have often disagreed with you, you;ve been pretty steady with your beliefs....BUT...it seems you are arguing for armed insurrection against the government in the guise of resistance against government "oppression"

I don't see the oppression on their parts

[mr.turbo]

on this thread, on getbig...

at some point, the people defending them are just going to get quiet, stop posting.  Happens a lot.

The more we hear about these dudes... what they're protesting (2 dudes found guilty of TERRORISM?) and the more we hear about their threats of violence, the LESS we're going to have people calling them patriots.

I bet Glen Beck is cautiously quiet on this, Rush is classically over-reactive, and Hannity just wants to blame Obama/Reid for the entire situation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-candidates-stay-quiet-on-oregon-standoff/2016/01/03/b8b9806c-b239-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html

 

[240 is Back]

You just type whatever pops into your head with no proof to back it up, good thing you aren't out there with you shit trigger discipline, you would have either shot someone or blown your own foot off.

we've all just seen you move from discussing the TOPIC, to a spot where you're insulting the MESSENGER.

happens on the political board all the time when people have no good response or argument, they just talk shit about the person making the post. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I know you are an anti-government advocate and I have to give you credit because even though I have often disagreed with you, you;ve been pretty steady with your beliefs....BUT...it seems you are arguing for armed insurrection against the government in the guise of resistance against government "oppression"

I don't see the oppression on their parts

If you're black how can you not see any oppression on their parts?  The American government has always been shady and always be , thus is nature. Be very wary of any person that wants to control other people , who spends $100 million dollars a year for a job that pays $500K?

[240 is Back]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-candidates-stay-quiet-on-oregon-standoff/2016/01/03/b8b9806c-b239-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html

 

LMAO - repub candidates SILENT on this because whoever gets the votes of those who support white bald dudes doing armed insurrection, will win the nomination too.

[Kazan]

on this thread, on getbig...

at some point, the people defending them are just going to get quiet, stop posting.  Happens a lot.

The more we hear about these dudes... what they're protesting (2 dudes found guilty of TERRORISM?) and the more we hear about their threats of violence, the LESS we're going to have people calling them patriots.

I bet Glen Beck is cautiously quiet on this, Rush is classically over-reactive, and Hannity just wants to blame Obama/Reid for the entire situation

Yeah charged with terrorism, why? Why all of a sudden is .gov charging people with terrorism for the following?

1) a controlled burn on the Hammond property that spilled over onto 130ish acres of federal land before the Hammond's put it out. No firefighters responded

2) a backburn started by the Hammond's to protect their property and home from fires started by lighting strikes during a storm in 2006

[240 is Back]

I don't see the oppression on their parts

they're pissed at the justice system?   LOL

They're pissed they can't use govt lands to feed their cattle, it's as simple as that.  So threatening to murder people is their solution.    for fucks sake, they threatened to kill people - there is no defending this group now.   If they were peaceful, that's one thing.  They kicked everyone out and threatened to spill US blood unless political prisoners were released, thus allowing them to make more money from cattle.

In 2 days, NOBODY will be defending this group.  Kazan, you've moved to shitting on 240 and not defending them, so I think all realize you have no points left.

[The Scott]

LMAO - repub candidates SILENT on this because whoever gets the votes of those who support white bald dudes doing armed insurrection, will win the nomination too.

Most people wait for the facts to be revealed before taking a position.  Most people.
Have fun with whatever it is you're doing, kid.   

[240 is Back]

Yeah charged with terrorism, why? Why all of a sudden is .gov charging people with terrorism for the following?

1) a controlled burn on the Hammond property that spilled over onto 130ish acres of federal land before the Hammond's put it out. No firefighters responded

2) a backburn started by the Hammond's to protect their property and home from fires started by lighting strikes during a storm in 2006

"Spilled over'?   LOL Suppose I "start" a bonfire in my yard and it "spills over" into the next yard and kills the sleeping family/  Guess what... I'm going to prison.

Whether they burned the lands to hurt the govt, or it was "accidental"... the RESULT of their ACTIONS was destroyed US govt property... you go to prison when you do that.

i can't believe anyone is defending them.  They're starving for viable lands, so they burn theirs right next to the govt's and say "oops" right after govt refuses to let them use the land.  Yeah, starting massive fires to gain a political gain... that's terrorism. Fire kills just like bullets.

[TuHolmes]

Yeah charged with terrorism, why? Why all of a sudden is .gov charging people with terrorism for the following?

1) a controlled burn on the Hammond property that spilled over onto 130ish acres of federal land before the Hammond's put it out. No firefighters responded

2) a backburn started by the Hammond's to protect their property and home from fires started by lighting strikes during a storm in 2006

Shouldn't you be asking why a jury found them guilty?

[Kazan]

we've all just seen you move from discussing the TOPIC, to a spot where you're insulting the MESSENGER.

happens on the political board all the time when people have no good response or argument, they just talk shit about the person making the post. 

I am discussing the topic, you are all over the road with BLM, Muslims and whatever non sequitur subject you can toss into the thread. You are like one of those asshats that create all those meme's to illicit an emotional response, no matter how devoid of fact it is.

[Kazan]

Shouldn't you be asking why a jury found them guilty?

They were found guilty, sentenced, and server the sentence. What I want to know is why they were charged with terrorism.

[headhuntersix]

Oregon, ranchers set to report to prison on Monday for lighting fires in 2001 and 2006 that they said reduced the growth of invasive plants and protected their land from wildfire. Both Dwight Hammond Jr., 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, were convicted three years ago, with the father serving three months and the son a year.


I suspect that the feds figured they could hit them harder with terror charges...plus this makes it seem that right wing terror is on the raise so some shit....

[TuHolmes]

They were found guilty, sentenced, and server the sentence. What I want to know is why they were charged with terrorism.

I do not know this, and the more I read it, the more I am finding that there is no definitive proof that they were actually charged WITH terrorism.

If they were NOT, then the judge acted appropriately, and I'm inclined to start siding with the premise of double jeopardy in this instance.

I'm still researching, but I will keep looking and let you know what I find.