Hospitals - Biggest crooks in America

[Disco187]

the worst is when the drs in the E.R misdiagnois a person, so basically they go home with a bill and still got the same issue.

[SF1900]

the worst is when the drs in the E.R misdiagnois a person, so basically they go home with a bill and still got the same issue.

Doctors misdiagnosed my uncle. Sent him home with a massive bill--good thing he has great health insurance.

That night he was feeling sick. Went back to the hospital. Had a massive stroke that night at the hospital. IF he didnt go back to the hospital, he would have died. Doctor totally screwed up. They admitted to my aunt that they messed up.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Doctors misdiagnosed my uncle. Sent him home with a massive bill--good thing he has great health insurance.

That night he was feeling sick. Went back to the hospital. Had a massive stroke that night at the hospital. IF he didnt go back to the hospital, he would have died. Doctor totally screwed up. They admitted to my aunt that they messed up.

Tort reform will ensure that no matter how much a Doctor fucks up you can only sue for up to $50K.  This was put in by Bush to "protect" the medical industry.  lol

[ProudVirgin69]

Tort reform will ensure that no matter how much a Doctor fucks up you can only sue for up to $50K.  This was put in by Bush to "protect" the medical industry.  lol

I'm not sure where you get your info but no state has a cap on non-economic malpractice awards (ie: money paid for pain & suffering) less than $100,000.  And without tort reform, doctors are forced to run every possible test to rule out even the slightest chance of a misdiagnosis, causing medical costs to skyrocket. 

No approach is inherently better than the other, each will have their pros and cons.

[SF1900]

To El Diablo Blanco and Proud Virgin, here are some examples of caps:

In Alaska, there is a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages in a medical malpractice case. The cap bumps up to $400,000 for non-economic damages in med mal cases involving wrongful death or “severe permanent physical impairment” that is over 70 percent debilitating.

Massachusetts caps non-economic damages at $500,000 in medical malpractice cases (though exceptions exist; more on this below).

There is currently no overall cap on compensatory (economic or non-economic) damages in medical malpractice cases in New Jersey. But in any injury case, punitive damages are limited to $350,000 or five times the amount of compensatory damages, whichever is greater.  This law is codified at New Jersey Statutes section 2A:15-5.14.

Yes. Like a lot of states, Mississippi caps non-economic damages in medical malpractice cases, effectively limiting the amount of money that a successful plaintiff can receive even after a jury has found the defendant liable for medical malpractice. Mississippi's cap for non-economic damages is set at $500,000, and you can find this law codified at Mississippi Code section 11-1-60.

Idaho Code section 6-1603 puts a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages in personal injury cases. By law, this $250,000 cap is a variable one; it increases or decreases along with the Idaho Industrial Commission’s adjustment of the “annual living wage” in accord with Idaho Code section 72-409(2).   

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/state-state-medical-malpractice-damages-caps.html

[ProudVirgin69]

Yes, that's a far cry from the alleged $50,000 cap cited by El Diablo.  And that doesn't account for additional economic payouts, when malpractice leads to a reduced- or inability to continue working in the same capacity. 

[mazrim]

I knew one lady who's daughter was in the hospital and got charged $200 for a "children's activity packet". It was a coloring book.

[ritch]

I knew one lady who's daughter was in the hospital and got charged $200 for a "children's activity packet". It was a coloring book.

Who the hell sets these prices?
What a crock of shit, some heartless people who are making these decisions.

[SF1900]

I knew one lady who's daughter was in the hospital and got charged $200 for a "children's activity packet". It was a coloring book.

lol. Absolutely ridiculous. Yet, somehow they get away with this shit lol. 'Murica.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Who the hell sets these prices?
What a crock of shit, some heartless people who are making these decisions.

It's all negotiated rates between the hospital and Insurance companies.

[nicorulez]

There is only one candidate who want to fix this travesty to make a Single Payer system, like the rest of the Industrialized World has.  Healthcare as a right, not a privilege.  

Bernie Sanders.

TA, healthcare is a right if you put something back into the system. As far I can see, a very large of Americans put nothing back into the system. If everybody had skin in the game, even a percent of their earnings, than the Bernie Sanders "Blue" Pill would be easier to swallow. BTW, do you really want a one payer system. To save funds, they can unilaterally decide what conditions are treated and paid for, regardless what your physician recommends. Also, if you are denied for services and can't look elsewhere, you are basically screwed. Think before you vote.

[nicorulez]

The story goes like this.  About a month ago I had the worst stomach pain.  Enough that I was curled up in a ball on the floor and agonizing.  I went to emergency around 1 am.  The doctor checks me out and keeps saying it might be my appendix.  I point out that the pain is in my lower abdomen away from my side where appendix pain would be but he insists on me getting an MRI.  Of course the MRI comes back negative.  They give me morphine then explain that a bunch of people have been in already with similar symptoms and they think it's a virus.  So basically they knew this but insisted on the MRI anyways.

Yesterday I get a bill in the mail.  The hospital charged over $10K to insurance, $7K of which was for the MRI.  My insurance covers 90% and the bill to me was $1200.  Fuck that.  I call the hospital and complain and tell them I can't pay the bill.  They then offer me a payment plan of $100 a month.  I tell them I still can't pay that.  They put me on hold come back and say they will settle for $175 if I can pay right now while on the phone.  So I agree and pay with my credit card.  Motherfuckers.  They already made their money from Insurance and now anything from me is just pure profit for them.  Biggest bunch of crooks in history.

Hey man sorry about your predicament. However, if you would have had appendicitis and you perforated and died, that doctor would have been shit out of luck. Thus, I totally understand the scan but question why he did a MRI vs a contrast CT scan, which is just as sensitive if not more so and cheaper. Anyway, as long as Democrats run the Oval office, expect more of the same. Doctors, I am included, often encounter patients who are very demanding and believe or not litigious. I had one patient who I consulted on that basically told me before we even begun the consult that she had sued her previous two physicians...Oh goodie  . Regardless, don't blame the doc. The ER doc is paid 150 to 175 dollars an hour. The hospital is the one abusing the system. They also deliberately ratchet up the rates of service for the uninsured so they can write it off as bad debt.

[The True Adonis]

You are part of the reason why medical bills are so outrageous

What was he supposed to do die?

Republican Healthcare plan:

[The True Adonis]

TA, healthcare is a right if you put something back into the system. As far I can see, a very large of Americans put nothing back into the system. If everybody had skin in the game, even a percent of their earnings, than the Bernie Sanders "Blue" Pill would be easier to swallow. BTW, do you really want a one payer system. To save funds, they can unilaterally decide what conditions are treated and paid for, regardless what your physician recommends. Also, if you are denied for services and can't look elsewhere, you are basically screwed. Think before you vote.

Oh you mean like Insurance Companies currently do now and have been doing for decades.

Nobody has these problems in Germany, Scandinavia etc....  So I don't believe you one bit.

[Radical Plato]

oh shut the fuck up, cause socialism works so fucking great every where else

Works great here in Australia, rarely pay for anything.

[nicorulez]

What was he supposed to do die?

Republican Healthcare plan:

Really, TA using Alan Grayson. He is the biggest buffoon ever in Congress. This is embarrassing for you to even try to use him as a resource. He is an idiot to the highest degree.

[nicorulez]

Oh you mean like Insurance Companies currently do now and have been doing for decades.

Nobody has these problems in Germany, Scandinavia etc....  So I don't believe you one bit.

Lol you are more of an idiot than I suspected. People in Canada wait months for surgery if they are even eligible. Socialized medicine may be nice in theory but when 50% of the population does not even contribute to the system how is it going to work. Get a job, pay some taxes, and then we will see about your socialized medicine.

[The True Adonis]

Lol you are more of an idiot than I suspected. People in Canada wait months for surgery if they are even eligible. Socialized medicine may be nice in theory but when 50% of the population does not even contribute to the system how is it going to work. Get a job, pay some taxes, and then we will see about your socialized medicine.

[El Diablo Blanco]

For such a racist fucking cocksucking asshole you seem really eager to share your taxes to help the scum sucking leech blacks and Hispanics get free health care.

[The True Adonis]

For such a racist fucking cocksucking asshole you seem really eager to share your taxes to help the scum sucking leech blacks and Hispanics get free health care.

Not only does it produce the best outcomes for people, its by far the most cost effective, money saving system.  I think you confuse realist with racist.  I am not racist one bit.  If people do stupid things or belong to a shitty culture I will highlight their ignorance.

I do not care what a person looks like at all.

[nicorulez]

TA you talk but never back it up with facts.

http://www.darkdaily.com/hospitals-in-new-york-state-and-throughout-the-united-states-are-advertising-to-attract-the-growing-number-of-medical-tourists-from-canada-127#axzz42FwVwYqQ

A liberal state like New York is trying to schmooze medical tourism from Canada. LOL....under Sanders America it will take months to get a procedure. What a joke.

[Ron Jeremy]

My son went to the emergency room. Broken clavicle. Before he could be seen I paid $100 co-pay which I thought covered the doctors bill. A nurse saw him, he had an X ray,  was given a cloth sling with some Tylenol 3 for pain. The nurse said he needs to go to an orthopedic doc. Just got the bill from the hospital.  Doctor bill $1,089 ( never saw a doctor). BC/BS paid $18. Adjustment by the hospital was $800 or so. Doctor bill $254. Called the insurance company and asked what the $100 co-pay was for. Was told that was just to be seen and didn't cover the doctors fees. Scam artists. Insurance companies and the American health care system is filled with crooks. Idiots that claim outrageous shit about waiting 3 months to see a doctor in other civilized countries are just parroting right wing propaganda. Google Frank Luntz and the language of health care 2009. Also Wendell Potter.

[stuntmovie]

I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the VA healthcare military benefits.

Although I am not an expert on how well the system works, I do know for a fact that in my case it has been absolutely free.

The big problem is that it takes so long to see a doctor unless you head off to the emergency clinic which in my case is over 30 miles further north.

Scheduled medical appointments can take  6 months or longer so the VA emergency staff does not complain when you show up with a twisted ankle or a prolonged runny nose.

It surprises me that some vets are not even aware of these VA medical benefits.

So visit your local recruiter today and get full medical coverage for a lifetime!

But dental will cost you extra!

[YngiweRhoads]

Tore my bicep in Canada. It happened during work so worker's compensation paid to have the tendon surgically reattached. If it didn't happen at work I would have had to pay the entire cost myself as it wouldn't have been covered by our socialist medical system. It's an elective surgery. There were a lot of other issues along way, but needless to say most people here don't get muscle/tendon tears repaired.

[epic_alien]

Tore my bicep in Canada. It happened during work so worker's compensation paid to have the tendon surgically reattached. If it didn't happen at work I would have had to pay the entire cost myself as it wouldn't have been covered by our socialist medical system. It's an elective surgery. There were a lot of other issues along way, but needless to say most people here don't get muscle/tendon tears repaired.


 your employers experience rating went up after your claim, and also the premiums your employer pays went up. also the out of pocket they paid.