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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #675 on: May 04, 2016, 02:41:42 PM »
My theory has always been that it wasn't an inside job but the gov knew it was going to happen and let it happen as a precursor to starting a war with Iraq.

That's been my suspicion too and i think it wouldn't require that many people to be in on something like that.  Prior to 9/11 government intelligence agencies including the ones in the military didn't communicate with each other very well with each other.  They were rivals for influence and funding.  I would think the National Security Adviser and his team would assemble intel from different sources and woulds have a good idea something like this was in the works.  There are instances that have been uncovered that there was some intel of this happening.  The problem was knowing which is bogus or real in the pool of thousands of bits of intel daily.  If there was a CT here it will never been proved. 

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #676 on: May 04, 2016, 02:42:29 PM »
Didnt you ever think that its the Conspiracy theorists that are the "sheeple" after all the government has got you running around pointing and shouting about a conspiracy by leaving just enough doubt to keep you interested.

If you were a free thinker you would think for yourself.

Me, i couldn't give a fuck if George Bush singlehandedly masterminded the entire thing.

Who fucking cares, you cant do anything about it.

Youtube tells him what to think.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #677 on: May 04, 2016, 04:13:38 PM »
Still waiting for the tin foil hatters believing in the 911 official fairy tale to tell me more about the invisible plane that hit the Pentagon.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #678 on: May 04, 2016, 04:17:09 PM »
Didnt you ever think that its the Conspiracy theorists that are the "sheeple" after all the government has got you running around pointing and shouting about a conspiracy by leaving just enough doubt to keep you interested.

If you were a free thinker you would think for yourself.

Me, i couldn't give a fuck if George Bush singlehandedly masterminded the entire thing.

Who fucking cares, you cant do anything about it.
There you have it. The reason tin foll crackpots like yourself refuse to believe anything other than the official BS fairy tale. Because you think you can't do anything about it, it scares you and you don't want to think for yourself. How pathetic. You just admitted that you won't give a fuck even if you knew it was an inside job. People are wasting time trying to reason with you they may as well be talking to a piece of dried out feces.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #679 on: May 04, 2016, 04:21:55 PM »
Still waiting for the tin foil hatters believing in the 911 official fairy tale to tell me more about the invisible plane that hit the Pentagon.



That looks CGI'd to me.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #680 on: May 04, 2016, 04:27:45 PM »
If Atta is still alive he simply has to show his face and the US government will be exposed, the Terrorists will win.

But we all know that's the same fantasy as Tupac and Elvis still living.

The dad probably fell into a state of denial.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #681 on: May 04, 2016, 05:46:16 PM »
Didnt you ever think that its the Conspiracy theorists that are the "sheeple" after all the government has got you running around pointing and shouting about a conspiracy by leaving just enough doubt to keep you interested.

If you were a free thinker you would think for yourself.

Me, i couldn't give a fuck if George Bush singlehandedly masterminded the entire thing.

Who fucking cares, you cant do anything about it.

The fact is we'll never really know. It's fun indeed to speculate sure, but to claim you know what happened like people here are doing is just asinine.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #682 on: May 04, 2016, 08:21:14 PM »
Still waiting for the tin foil hatters believing in the 911 official fairy tale to tell me more about the invisible plane that hit the Pentagon.


Still waiting for witness videos and testimony that say they saw a missle hit the pentagon.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #683 on: May 04, 2016, 09:59:17 PM »
There you have it. The reason tin foll crackpots like yourself refuse to believe anything other than the official BS fairy tale. Because you think you can't do anything about it, it scares you and you don't want to think for yourself. How pathetic. You just admitted that you won't give a fuck even if you knew it was an inside job. People are wasting time trying to reason with you they may as well be talking to a piece of dried out feces.

I dont care what happened, dont you get it, people are twats, they will act and do bad things, its what people have down since the dawn of time, Im not scared, what have i got to be scared about?

I just said, I do think for myself, I have weighed up the evidence and on the balance of probabilities the Twin Towers were not brought down with controlled explosions, its not hard to come to that conclusion because there is zero evidence of it being a possibility.

What the fuck is wrong with your free thinking mind?
Could the Bush administration have been involved in the plot to crash planes into the towers, of course, it suited the agenda.

There is evidence that Churchill and the American governments knew exactly what was happening during the Holocaust but let it continue because to do something would have hampered the war effort.
There is evidence the Americans had prior warning about Pearl Harbour.

So, no, I dont have my head in the sand, its time you started evaluating the evidence as opposed to watching Youtube vids for your information.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #684 on: May 05, 2016, 03:28:38 AM »
Ignited droplets of fuel will continue to release their energy outward into the restricted space of the elevator shaft, and it will be every bit of a series of explosions.

You're just trying to protect your statement that there "were no explosions".

Making distinctions is about the best someone could hope for, because there is no denying that explosions happened and that it came with the territory.

Dear child, is isn't what you say, it is what you can prove, and why don't you try to prove this using what is possible to see in the 9/11 videos? For children like you, every fucking fart is explosion, but in the real world there is quite simple definition for it, and flashing petrol really doesn't fill that definition. If you don't believe, just try: Put a fire in the fireplace, and then climb on the roof and pour some petrol down the chimney. I bet you will learn something new by doing that  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #685 on: May 05, 2016, 03:42:26 AM »
Btw, "bombs in the lobby" and the related stories are all due to that, IMO.

But in this case IMO doesn't mean shit. It is obvious that there were lots of heavy objects  falling down the elevator shaft, and this would be logical source of the imaginary explosions and such, because there is real evidence which prove that this is what happen. Objects like parts of the airplane, elevators,  furniture's, etc. etc.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #686 on: May 05, 2016, 04:27:37 AM »
   
In the next video posted below, go to the minute 6:12 if you want to hear the explosions while the twin tower was blowing up in it's way down, you retarded lying piece of shit.




There is a video, you fucking imbecile. Live testimony while you hear the exlosion in the back. Keep going.

I am retarded piece of shit, and you think that your word miraculously change that noise to explosions? Well, it doesn't, and there isn't any explosions because of the obvious reasons, which you just simply deny. Denialism is stupidity, your stupidity is obvious, so you are even more retarded than I ever be, because you really are believer of that crap. I have pointed out dozens of details where your foil hat mentors have lied to you, and you are angry to me? Your mentors knowingly make you look like an idiot, and somehow it is my fault? And still you haven't been able to explain any questions I have made about the missing explosions, why windows didn't break etc. while details like these proves that foil hat theory is just crap. You see, there isn't any explanation for these details, just because these idiots haven't understand what they see, because they are just fucking morons like you. You and the foil hats doesn't have enough brains to understand these vital details, and that's why you can't explain them, no matter how fucking obvious the answer would be.

Lets look some reality for a change, why don't we? You have to blow to pieces + 40 steel columns, which are 15 to 20 yards from the glass wall. Largest columns have 1.2 ton of mass per meter, and there is bunch of them, and you are saying that it is possible to explode them without breaking the glass wall? Exactly how?  Explain this with your own words, if you can? . This single detail proves that there wasn't any explosions, no thermite, nothing but fire. Your problem is that you are looking 3D physics from the 2D world, a video screen, and you doesn't have enough experience nor knowledge to understand what you see. You think that you can point the explosion to some direction, but how about +40 of them per floor? No matter how you do it, there will be burst of energy which would be clear and visible to see.

You shouldn't write another word before you have clarified how in the name of hell this could be possible. And what next? I can say here and now that it never happen, just because you are too coward to take my challenge. You aren't a man at all, you are just a fucking child, who is copying foil hat lies like a fucking parrot, without any brains at all. You see, if you have a some kind of balls, you would be brave enough to find some answers, and that never happens.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #687 on: May 05, 2016, 04:53:36 AM »
It's only nonsense to you retarded inbreed from Europe, when confronted with facts that just don't add up, and show a clear signs of corruption in our goverment, you proceed to tell us Americans that all this information is irrelevant. What's not adding up here? The official story or you?



You and the facts doesn't really belong in same sentence, because all what you do is try to fill this thread with complete insane foil hat crap instead of any kind of facts. I bet that you don't even know the definition of the word "fact", so please stop abusing it.

What you should understand is the fact that official investigation is complete chain of things which happen, proved by the concrete and complete chain of evidence. If you can read, you understand what happen, when and why without using any imagination. There is logic in every fucking detail, and not anything questionable. This is a fact. What idiots do is to question it anyway because they can't believe that things could happen like they did, and this disbelieve is based only on ignorance. They try to explain things which happen by imagination, but when you do that, there will be no evidence at all. This is the reason why you can't prove there was explosions, or thermite etc. But if you know the facts, you never even think that there would be explosives, because you can't see anything what you should see when something explodes.  You can't prove anything by denying facts, you need to have some evidence for every claim you make. From year 2001 to present time, foil hats have none. 0 evidence. Doesn't that mean anything to you? No, but instead of thinking about it, you fill this thread with futile crap, like always. Not even a second of thinking, no hesitation at all, you adopt even the stupidest claims in nanoseconds. This is what the scientific study has confirmed to be characterize behavior of the foil hat moron, the most idiotic herd animal on the planet.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #688 on: May 05, 2016, 05:15:37 AM »
Those 19 goat shepherds were Saudis you infinite retarded inbreed, not from Afghanistan, the afghans drove Russia back thanks to us. This tell us how much you really know what happen that day in our country, but keep going, the more you post the more it clearly show us your retardation.

Osama, net worth +300 000 000$? You are talking the one who lived in caves? Who's spreading bullshit propaganda and lies now?

North American Aerospace Defense Command, have you read about it? that's our multibillion defense system, morron, and here's the description.

NORAD Missions
In close collaboration with homeland defense, security, and law enforcement partners, prevent air attacks against North America, safeguard the sovereign airspaces of the United States and Canada by responding to unknown, unwanted, and unauthorized air activity approaching and operating within these airspaces, and provide aerospace and maritime warning for North America.

http://www.norad.mil/AboutNORAD.aspx

In a word, OWNED!!!



So, you cannot Google, can't you? There isn't any mystery about the heritage of Osama, he is a part of the family which owns oilfields, and has long history of weapon business with the USA. All this you would find for example in the magazines and books printed years before 9/11, so it is a fact that Osama was multimillionaire. Everybody seem to know it, but you?

What would be the main function of Norad? Find and destroy passenger jets? Really? Why in the name of hell they would use military technology to seek civil aero planes BEFORE there is any threat at all? That has to be one of the most idiotic arguments in history of mankind, and only fucking imbecile could use crappy argument like that. In exactly where they shoot down civil aircrafts which are lost from their course? Do you silly guy even understand how high is the threshold to do it? Only Russians have shot down some passenger jets knowing they are doing just that, USA has drop one in the mistake at the war zone. Beside of these, it has never happen, so what is the use of Norad against the civil aircrafts? And you own me by that crap? Grow up, you fucking child. You have no means to own anybody, you are just throwing some crap from your diapers.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #689 on: May 05, 2016, 05:26:26 AM »
Why don't YOU, Ozmo, and Ropo the retarded inbreed from Finland proceed below to wright nice and neatly a resume explanation out of the Official conspiracy 9/11 commission report so we, Getbiggers can finally understand what really happened that day, since it looks we are so lost in the details? We will be waiting. Thank you in advance.

Because we don't have to prove anything, because it has proved already IN the official investigation. Your problem is that you doesn't have even a shred of counterevidence, you just bellow like an handicapped moron with no sense at all. If you have some reason to claim that official investigation is faulty, you need some counterevidence to prove that your claim is based on facts. Now, until you have some real counterevidence, please shut the fuck up  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #690 on: May 05, 2016, 05:39:12 AM »
Let's play this game but another way. So you are telling us that the floors collapsing were so loud they sounded like explosion in it's way down?

 You can tell the individual in the video is way more far than it looks like, since we are talking about one of the tallest building in the world, not some tall building in New York, do you understand the relativity of distance? Are you one of those flat earthlings?

So floors collapsing sound like explosions now? Were are your video evidence of such occurrence, retard?

Minute 6:12 in the video.



But keep posting, at the end you will be always OWNED!!!

Why don't we, but blame yourself if you hurt your feelings even more: There is no matter what you claim you hear there or not, because you can't prove fuck with it. It is simple as that. You see, there is laws of physics which are ruling how things happen on this universe, and these laws prove that there can't be any kind of explosions, because there isn't any visual indicator which proves explosions happen. Instead of that, there is plenty of evidence that there wasn't any explosions, and evidence why those explosions would be completely impossible. All these evidences you, in your overwhelming stupidity, will deny, so I don't list them here with details. Let say that they have lot to do with explosions and glass, explosives and fire, exploding arrangements and plane crash etc. undeniably facts, which are too difficult to child to understand.  This isn't a fight between truth and lie, but between moronic ignorance and facts of reality, meaning something which you don't even know under you fucking foil hat.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #691 on: May 05, 2016, 05:48:15 AM »
Ozmo, I owned you way back, and now I'm done with you. Not worth my posts anymore.

You have owned only yourself, because only prove you have presented, is prove that you are an imbecile. Your foil hat lies doesn't be enough, we have heard all of them and all of them has been shot down. I have given you plenty of hints about the details you should explain, but you ignore all that because you don't find the answers from the foil hat crap. In other words I have presented you some questions which anyone would have answers if they have even a child's intelligence, and you haven't been able to answer any of them? What that would prove? a) you are full of foil hat shit b) you are fucking moron, full of foil hat shit and c) your IQ is less than average 5 year old have?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #692 on: May 05, 2016, 05:53:07 AM »
Sheist, man.  This one IS weird.

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Now you are proving the conspiracy by the speech of the moron, who have a career long history of misspelling and errors in his speech? Way to go, if you are here to prove how fucking moronic foil hats can be  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #693 on: May 05, 2016, 06:19:57 AM »
Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11.  Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis.  Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives.  After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.

The paper's first author is Dr. Niels Harrit, a 37-year Professor of Chemistry at Copenhagen University in Denmark and an expert in Nano-chemistry, who says, "The official account put forth by NIST violates the fundamental laws of physics."

Government and independent evidence corroborates Thermitic explosives used to bring down all three WTC Towers on 9/11.  (sources 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)

http://investigate911.org/

What you don't see to get a grasp on is that on 9, 11 of 2001, 2 of the tallest buildings in the World, full of asbestos came down in seconds, you imbecile.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Ooh how nice...but then, there isn't such thing as nano- thermite explosives. Niels Harrit is a moron, period. What Harrit did is more like a comedy act, because he proved by himself that he is just a moron, by his own evidence. Let me explain:

1. objects which he study wasn't straight from the ground zero, but things what people have taken around the GZ at some point of time, and kept in their homes = fact which Harrit admit himself.

2. In his report he was using microscope- photos, which includes scale, and the scale unit was µm. Problem is that the particles in the picture were 250µm wide, while nm is 250 000 times smaller. In other words those particles which he found were 250 000 times too large to have anything to do with nano- particles. There is no room for professors who make mistakes like that, not in herd of foil hats, not in university, not anywhere, because these basic units you learn in the first grade.

3. Like all that isn't enough, the particles he found could be anything, because he mainly found aluminum and iron oxide = oxygenated aluminum and rust. There were plenty of both in the building, and more coming with the workers who were clearing the ruins. They were using thermal lances to cut the massive steel, and what that leave in the scene? Aluminum and iron oxide, What a surprise ;D

As you see, there is explanation for everything you ask, but not any kind of answers to anything I ask? You just bellow what ever crap is in your sick mind, and that is all you have. Now stop and think what is the reason of that? Why don't you have all the answers instead of that crap? Do I have to spell out why?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #694 on: May 05, 2016, 06:31:57 AM »
Yes I agree there is so much wacko bullshit out there.  I'd say well over 90%.  But that's a winning way for anyone who wants good reason to dismiss everything: they can rightly say they've "investigated" it by watching hundreds of hours of video on the subject, and it's "all" insanity, and in a sense they'd be right.

It really isn't as complicated as that. There is the proved official investigation, and people who have blind faith but not even a single evidence to prove even a tiny little part of official investigation to be faulty. Most of the people on this planet knows that official investigation is legit, but fact is that in the modern civilizations there is 20-25% of people, who need mental health care at some point of their life. It is also a fact that only 10 - 17% of people believe these foil hat lies, so do I need say more? Foil hat morons = stupidest part of the mentally ill people = fact  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #695 on: May 05, 2016, 06:36:19 AM »
I don't think he's smart enough to understand what you are doing here. Honest to God you got me dying in laughter, tears are coming out my eyes.

Yes, that is exactly what morons do, they laugh to things which they doesn't understand. Of course there is the timelines including the relevant happenings, so at the end, foil hat lies are crap as always.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #696 on: May 05, 2016, 06:50:53 AM »
When he says "the explosives", it sounds as though he expects us to refer back to something he'd just said, even though it's the first time he mentions explosives.

But I know we're talking about GWB, here.

When he says explosives, he can't even know if there were any, because analyzing the data was unfinished. It is ridiculous to think that he would have all the facts at that point of time, so he reads from the paper what some assistant has wrote down. That tool didn't know fuck about anything, and now you are building some completely irrelevant theory around this moron? Nothing better to do? Concentrate to prove there were explosions, or try to explain why those enormous amounts of explosives didn't break the windows of the same fucking room they were detonated?

Why you start to play this by the foil hat rules? Focus on details, what is possible and what's not. For example: Is it possible that there is an error in the speech of the moron? Is it possible that you can explode massive steel in to smithereens in the glass house without breaking windows? Is it possible to install tons of explosives, then crash an airplane in that space, let it burn 56 minutes and everything works like nothing? The first claim obvious, because that moron did speak what ever nonsense through his career, and next two claims are completely impossible by just as obvious reasons as first one was possible. There is no need to complicate this more, this is quite simple thing to solve.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #697 on: May 05, 2016, 06:55:05 AM »
9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI

One of the more puzzling mysteries of 9-11 is what ever happened to the flight recorders of the two planes that hit the World Trade Center towers. Now it appears that they may not be missing at all.

Counterpunch has learned that the FBI has them.

Flight recorders (commonly known as black boxes, though these days they are generally bright orange) are required on all passenger planes. There are always two-a flight data recorder that keeps track of a plane’s speed, altitude, course and maneuvers, and a cockpit voice recorder which keeps a continuous record of the last 30 minutes of conversation inside a plane’s cockpit. These devices are constructed to be extremely durable, and are installed in a plane’s tail section, where they are least likely suffer damaged on impact. They are designed to withstand up to 30 minutes of 1800-degree heat (more than they would have faced in the twin towers crashes), and to survive a crash at full speed into the ground.

All four of the devices were recovered from the two planes that hit the Pentagon and that crashed in rural Pennsylvania. In the case of American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon, the FBI reports that the flight data recorder survived and had recoverable information, but the voice recorder was allegedly too damaged to provide any record. In the case of United Airlines Flight 93, which hit the ground at 500 mph in Pennsylvania, the situation was reversed: the voice recorder survived but the flight data box was allegedly damaged beyond recovery.

But the FBI states, and also reported to the 9-11 Commission, that none of the recording devices from the two planes that hit the World Trade Center were ever recovered.

There has always been some skepticism about this assertion, particularly as two N.Y. City firefighters, Mike Bellone and Nicholas De Masi, claimed in 2004 that they had found three of the four boxes, and that Federal agents took them and told the two men not to mention having found them. (The FBI denies the whole story.) Moreover, these devices are almost always located after crashes, even if not in useable condition (and the cleanup of the World Trade Center was meticulous, with even tiny bone fragments and bits of human tissue being discovered so that almost all the victims were ultimately identified). As Ted Lopatkiewicz, director of public affairs at the National Transportation Safety Agency which has the job of analyzing the boxes’ data, says, “It’s very unusual not to find a recorder after a crash, although it’s also very unusual to have jets flying into buildings.”

Now there is stronger evidence that something is amiss than simply the alleged non-recovery of all four of those boxes. A source at the National Transportation Safety Board, the agency that has the task of deciphering the date from the black boxes retrieved from crash sites-including those that are being handled as crimes and fall under the jurisdiction of the FBI-says the boxes were in fact recovered and were analyzed by the NTSB.

“Off the record, we had the boxes,” the source says. “You’d have to get the official word from the FBI as to where they are, but we worked on them here.”

The official word from the NTSB is that the WTC crash site black boxes never turned up. “No recorders were recovered from the World Trade Center,” says the NTSB’s Lopatkiewicz. “At least none were delivered to us by the FBI.” He adds that the agency has “always had a good relationship’ with the FBI and that in all prior crime-related crashes or flight incidents, they have brought the boxes to the NTSB for analysis.

For its part, the FBI is still denying everything, though with curious bit of linguistic wiggle room. “To the best of my knowledge, the flight recording devices from the World Trade Center crashes were never recovered. At least we never had them,” says FBI spokesman Stephen Kodak.

What the apparent existence of the black boxes in government hands means is unclear.

If the information in those boxes is recoverable, or if, as is likely, it has been recovered already, it could give crucial evidence regarding the skill of the hijacker/pilots, perhaps of their strategy, of whether they were getting outside help in guiding them to their targets, of how fast they were flying and a host of other things.

Why would the main intelligence and law enforcement arm of the U.S. government want to hide from the public not just the available information about the two hijacked flights that provided the motivation and justification for the nation’s “War on Terror” and for its two wars against Afghanistan and Iraq, but even the fact that it has the devices which could contain that information? Conspiracy theories abound, with some claiming the planes were actually pilotless military aircraft, or that they had little or nothing to do with the building collapses. The easiest way to quash such rumors and such fevered thinking would be openness.

Instead we have the opposite: a dark secrecy that invites many questions regarding the potentially embarrassing or perhaps even sinister information that might be on those tapes.

99.999% of foil hat claims are lies, and the rest are based on lies, so what else is new? Why it is so hard to understand that these foil hats are by far the dumbest people on this planet? They even prove this fact by themselves, by presenting things which are known to be lies for ages as an "evidence"..

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #698 on: May 05, 2016, 07:17:26 AM »
The fact is we'll never really know. It's fun indeed to speculate sure, but to claim you know what happened like people here are doing is just asinine.

Oh look Brink the coward is back to give us his knowledge about facts like he did here:

Engineers don't design structures that size to be 'just strong enough'. That's ridiculous. And it's not the steel that protects the building from gravity, it's the concrete columns which have tremendous compressive strength. Steel is merely meant to keep the concrete from twisting apart and to protect its integrity from vector type forces. Any engineer will tell you that.

Physics!!!!!   ;)

Again you are wrong.  You are drawing conclusions from incorrect assumptions and inaccurate information.  If you don't like the wiki proof there is more i can post from actual engineers to show how wrong you are.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center



The World Trade Center towers included many structural engineering innovations in skyscraper design and construction, which allowed the buildings to reach new heights and become the tallest in the world. Traditionally, skyscrapers used a skeleton of columns distributed throughout the interior to support building loads, with interior columns disrupting the floor space. The tube-frame concept, earlier introduced by Fazlur Khan, was a major innovation, allowing open floor plans and more space to rent. The buildings used high-strength, load-bearing perimeter steel columns called Vierendeel trusses that were spaced closely together to form a strong, rigid wall structure. There were 60 perimeter columns, narrowly spaced, on each side of the buildings. In all, the perimeter walls of the towers were 210 feet (64 m) on each side, and the corners were beveled. The perimeter columns were designed to provide support for virtually all lateral loads (such as wind loads) and to share the gravity loads with the core columns.[48] Structural analysis of major portions of the World Trade Center were computed on an IBM 1620.[49]

The perimeter structure was constructed with extensive use of prefabricated modular pieces, which consisted of three columns, three stories tall, connected by spandrel plates. The perimeter columns had a square cross section, 14 inches (36 cm) on a side, and were constructed of welded steel plate.[50] The thickness of the plates and grade of structural steel varied over the height of the tower, ranging from 36,000 to 100,000 pounds per square inch[51] (260 to 670 MPa). The strength of the steel and thickness of the steel plates decreased with height because they were required to support lesser amounts of building mass on higher floors.[50] The tube-frame design required 40 percent less structural steel than conventional building designs.[52] From the 7th floor to the ground level, and down to the foundation, the columns were spaced 10 feet (3 m) apart.[53] All columns were placed on bedrock, which, unlike that in Midtown Manhattan, where the bedrock is shallow, is at 65–85 feet (20–26 m) below the surface.[54]

The spandrel plates were welded to the columns to create the modular pieces off-site at the fabrication shop.[55] The modular pieces were typically 52 inches (1.3 m) deep, and extended for two full floors and half of two more floors.[50] Adjacent modules were bolted together, with the splices occurring at mid-span of the columns and spandrels. The spandrel plates were located at each floor, transmitting shear stress between columns, allowing them to work together in resisting lateral loads. The joints between modules were staggered vertically, so the column splices between adjacent modules were not at the same floor.[50]

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The tube frame design using steel core and perimeter columns protected with sprayed-on fire resistant material created a relatively lightweight structure that would sway more in response to the wind, compared to traditional structures such as the Empire State Building that have thick, heavy masonry for fireproofing of steel structural elements

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #699 on: May 05, 2016, 08:40:05 AM »
What really blows my mind is that we have all these retards from Europe, telling us, Americans how we are a bunch of tin foil hats, and how the goverment told us the truth on what happend on 9/11 of 2001, which was lead according to Ropo the retarded inbreed by one of the stupidest persons we have ever had as President. So president stupid, but every body else within the goverment smart and good at their job, talking about contradictions.

Let that sink in for a moment.

But keep posting, if you think having the last post means you guys are winning and writing the stupidest answers with nothing to back it up other than the official 9/11 commission, after all the evidence we have posted here, then it really show you room temperature IQ.

We Americans do believe that we were never told the truth on what happened that day, that the official 9/11 conspiracy commission report is nothing but bullshit, and a lot of people, traitor to our nation got away with murder, and we are still paying for the consequences of that day. And we will never let up.