Giving Up -

[pestosterone]

You have a great memory or only fuck once every year?  

Lol my memory is ok but we only intentionally made a cream pie those 2 those times.  

Yep 2 girls and a buddy of mine just found out he is having a girl conceived pre contest on cycle.

[Thong Maniac]

5 years of trt dosages or blast and cruise? I conceived both my kids on gear that didn't matter to me actually I can tell u both fucks when I conceived them. Super serm donor shits live ammo around here.

yeah mostly 100-200, sometimes rarely 400-600 for 6-8 weeks (maybe did that twice). crazy you had sperm, i thought when lh and fsh are undetectable (which they are when people are on trt), that its highly unlikely

[theworm]

Lol my memory is ok but we only intentionally made a cream pie those 2 those times.  

Yep 2 girls and a buddy of mine just found out he is having a girl conceived pre contest on cycle.

We always conceived off cycle, maybe 2-3 months after and we have 3 boys.  Crazy


I bet natural test high: boys
Exogenous test high, natural low: girls

[epcfitness]

Just an update,

So I've been off everything since the following day of posting this. Yep, after a few years of being on, I've gone cold turkey and I don't ever think I'll touch steroids ever again. Funny thing is I once though I'd be on for my entire life. To be honest with you guys I didn't think I could do it. That's why I resorted to running everything possible that I knew that would fix the libido and ed and other problems

So far I got about 25-30 tiny little white head sits on the inner right thigh and it was very red and ferocious for the first 3 days, now it seems to be calming down and no break outs anywhere else. I'm getting random erections now, something that I haven't experienced in over a year. It feels so good.

I'm going to a doctor in maybe about 3-4 weeks to get tested and see if everything is back or if he needs to give me pct meds drugs etc.

I'll update in a few weeks, but so far things are looking promising. And yes I've lost 20-25lbs, but zero fucks are given and I'm still pulling girls just as much as I used to, if not more. Because I am way more confident with myself due to the other aspects of my life ever since I gave up lifting, steroids, and eating for performance. My life is more spontaneous, calculated, planned, I do what the fuck I want with virtually no barriers or burdens in the way aka I need to train today I need to make sure I eat blah blah blah

My goals are much bigger than wanting to put on size, shred down, stupid bullshit that makes me laugh today and doesn't fucking matter. I'll be getting accepted into a top 20 school, tuition paid for, and I'm nailing a fine piece of ass 25 year old registered nurse italian chick who is intelligent and sexy as fuck. She even knows about my usage or my used to use I should say, and the problems it's caused and was slightly causing, she knows some of the things that should be embarrassing that I wrote here like steroids have fucked up my sex drive and for the time being i've been needing cialis and still with it wasn't fully hard, is understanding of it and wants me all the time.

Life is great, the world is so much bigger than steroids eating and lifting. My first week of going back to school after 6 years made me realize this.

I love life. Fuck you steroids for having me addicted without knowing it for all these years.
I hope one day you guys will realize what I have realized. For those of you laughing it off, thinking you just have to balance it all, it can be done, it's a great positive in your life taking these drugs, the list goes on yeah I was you for the past couple years. Trust me I thought just like you. Everything was good. Then the fucking sides became way to much to handle, that I honestly thought I could never give up the juice, but it was so bad that I fucking did it. One day you guys may realize how superficial this whole performance enhancement shit is if you are doing it to look more aesthetic or look bigger or tougher and more shredded. There is so much more out there to life than this bullshit, what a waste of time it's unbelieveable. Your time will come just as mine has. Coming from a young guy, 23, who was a fucking addict. So I'm not an old fart preaching, you will realize one day :-)

[phreak]

Sounds like you had an epiphany. I'm genuinely happy for you.

[efanhowz]

ya know you can have that same outlook on life on or off steroids? sounds like you were addicted to the pursuit of gainz buddy. and at 23 you gave up pretty quick.

congrats on living a happier life, but don't blame your former shitty life on steroids. you chose to eat/lift/spend time on the lifestyle and obsession. not everyone is like you. this is simply a HOBBY for some of us, not an obsession. some people use steroids effectively and still have fun and pursue other goals than an impressive physique. ITS ALL ABOUT BALANCE

but we wish you the best

[theworm]

Sounds like you got some issues to resolve!   

You need some sort of pct or you'll crash hard.

I use low to moderate doses 10 weeks on, 12 weeks off and never had any issues.  I feel to me, it's like taking whey powder and by no means has it fucked my life or il depended on them.  I really feel like they are a positive in my life, making me feel better and an overall sense of happiness

I wish you well, sounds more like a manic bipolar episode to me (being serious)

[local hero]

Sounds like you got some issues to resolve!   

You need some sort of pct or you'll crash hard.

I use low to moderate doses 10 weeks on, 12 weeks off and never had any issues.  I feel to me, it's like taking whey powder and by no means has it fucked my life or il depended on them.  I really feel like they are a positive in my life, making me feel better and an overall sense of happiness

I wish you well, sounds more like a manic bipolar episode to me (being serious)

You only live once, spend your time doing what you enjoy, if you enjoy drinking with the lads go for it, if you like taking a bit gear training etc, so be it , if you love bodybuilding youl go round in circles over the years between having the eye of the tiger and then being less interested..


The OP should msg flintstones you could both have huge long walls of text bemoning and simultaneously bragging about your lives

[deadz]

Seriously considering coming off for good. But, first going to try and cruise on 300mg test prop a week and see if it fixes my issue. So I've been on for 3 years non stop and despite having bloodwork done and coming back pretty much all in range,

Barely any feeling when I orgasm
Very little amount, clear, gooey and it only "dribbles" out when I orgasm, doesn't shoot out
Zero libido/Zero sex drive, can't get hard, can't stay hard
Even with taking Cialis 20mg, I only get about 60-70% hard
I suspect because I'm not fully hard, I have an urge to come within two strokes literally. This is not mental I swear to you. I put it in, and within 2 strokes I have the biggest urge to come

Something is so seriously fucked up with my hormones, I barely feel an orgasm, I can't get fully hard even with cialis, my orgasms when I cum dribbles out of the tip of my dick, no power behind them doesn't even shoot out, barely any sensation when I come, can't get an erection. With cialis, only 60% erection

I've been on for the past 4 weeks in an attempt to get some sort of libido or be able to get an erection:

400mg test prop
400mg mast prop
600mg eq
1mg caber/e3d
50mg proviron Ed
.50mg arimidex eod

Still I have no erections, there is no feeling when I orgasm, my cum dribbles out when I do and is slimey, clear, and very little amounts. Bloodwork has all come in range

About to drop down to 300mg test prop, 50mg proviron, and not run any other compounds and see if I get normal again. Been like this for months... What the fuck. Help me

Price you pay for manipulating your hormones. Nothing is without consequences.

[PizzaTrenSlin]

Can you post blood tests?

[Explorerspl]

Sounds like you started lifting and taking gear for the wrong reasons and instead of realizing that you are a moron you lay blame on the fitness lifestyle.


Theres a bunch of sucessful(read: already successful, not will be successful after he finishes school) people who do this shit as a hobby with no issues. You are just a  kid who thinks he has the world by the balls because he finally became an adult and stopped juicing for pussy.

Shits really gonna blow when that 25 year old slut bails on you


P.s. I went through the same thing you did with quitting lifting/gear when I was 20,because I started for attention/whores. Only took 3.5-4 years to start doing it again because it was a hobby and I loved it.

I mean shit 7 momths ago you were going to be a fitness model and make money off of being instagram famous, you dont know what you want out of life yet

Good luck though, maybe one day we will realize what you have realized all knowing 23 year old

[old-school-lifter]

Seriously considering coming off for good. But, first going to try and cruise on 300mg test prop a week and see if it fixes my issue. So I've been on for 3 years non stop and despite having bloodwork done and coming back pretty much all in range,

Barely any feeling when I orgasm
Very little amount, clear, gooey and it only "dribbles" out when I orgasm, doesn't shoot out
Zero libido/Zero sex drive, can't get hard, can't stay hard
Even with taking Cialis 20mg, I only get about 60-70% hard
I suspect because I'm not fully hard, I have an urge to come within two strokes literally. This is not mental I swear to you. I put it in, and within 2 strokes I have the biggest urge to come

Something is so seriously fucked up with my hormones, I barely feel an orgasm, I can't get fully hard even with cialis, my orgasms when I cum dribbles out of the tip of my dick, no power behind them doesn't even shoot out, barely any sensation when I come, can't get an erection. With cialis, only 60% erection

I've been on for the past 4 weeks in an attempt to get some sort of libido or be able to get an erection:

400mg test prop
400mg mast prop
600mg eq
1mg caber/e3d
50mg proviron Ed
.50mg arimidex eod

Still I have no erections, there is no feeling when I orgasm, my cum dribbles out when I do and is slimey, clear, and very little amounts. Bloodwork has all come in range

About to drop down to 300mg test prop, 50mg proviron, and not run any other compounds and see if I get normal again. Been like this for months... What the fuck. Help me

good luck
this can be the risks of steroids
you never may have normal erectile function or libido again
normal blood work means jack- its overrated

you may be looking @ a penis pump or prosthetic device

[Mayday]

I hope one day you guys will realize what I have realized. For those of you laughing it off, thinking you just have to balance it all, it can be done, it's a great positive in your life taking these drugs, the list goes on yeah I was you for the past couple years. Trust me I thought just like you. Everything was good. Then the fucking sides became way to much to handle, that I honestly thought I could never give up the juice, but it was so bad that I fucking did it. One day you guys may realize how superficial this whole performance enhancement shit is if you are doing it to look more aesthetic or look bigger or tougher and more shredded. There is so much more out there to life than this bullshit, what a waste of time it's unbelieveable. Your time will come just as mine has. Coming from a young guy, 23, who was a fucking addict. So I'm not an old fart preaching, you will realize one day :-)

The irony is muscles/aesthetics pickup men LOL. I've been a twink, been athletic, got more when i was a twink when i was young.

I'm almost 40 now, i wear well fitted clothes, dress smart, sound intelligent, i'm not a bad looking guy either and at 75kg lean it pulls looks from every female i walk past.

Learning that you only need to impress yourself, be happy with yourself is part of growing up.  You made mistakes prior to 23 but you have done a 180 and now you are ahead of the game.  Good luck buddy and i wish you the best!