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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2016, 09:43:42 PM »
Validating this shit is like telling an anorexic, "Yeah, looking kinda chubby, Roundo."

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« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2016, 10:02:56 PM »
That's what I thought.

Another dumb ass argument.

Tu, what do you want me to say? The majority of normal people couldn't give a shit whether someone wants to change gender, marry their gay partner, if you're  black, white, yellow or otherwise but progressives seem to want to make a big deal out of nothing....literally. No one will EVER stop racism, discrimination or anything else the progressives want to make up. As far as I'm concerned it comes down to one thing....$$$.

I hardly know anyone that cares if someone from the same sex lives together. The same sex legal marriage BS all comes down to benefits. Tax and health care benefits and a few more. Other than that, who cares. I sure as hell don't.

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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2016, 10:06:31 PM »
Tu, what do you want me to say? The majority of normal people couldn't give a shit whether someone wants to change gender, marry their gay partner, if your black, white, yellow or otherwise but progressives seem to want to make a big deal out of nothing....literally. No one will EVER stop racism, discrimination or anything else the progressives want to make up. As far as I'm concerned it comes down to one thing....$$$.

I hardly know anyone that cares if someone from the same sex lives together. The same sex legal marriage BS all comes down to benefits. Tax and health care benefits and a few more. Other than that, who cares. I sure as hell don't.

O RLY?   Gay marriage used to be against your morals ;)

What is the secular argument against gay marriage that you claim exists?

Morals and the scientific fact two humans can't procreate.

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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2016, 10:11:54 PM »
O RLY?   Gay marriage used to be against your morals ;)


Dude, you've been having meltdowns of epic proportions lately. Protect yourself. You've been dumbing down quite a bit and making no sense. Was it the Killary threads? Btw, it still it against my morals. What the fuck does that have to do with anything.

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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2016, 10:20:42 PM »
lmao yeah shame on me for thinking that its completely fucked up that a person would want to look and act like a zebra for the rest of their lives. I see no difference between that alteration and a sexual alteration.

I can just imagine what a fucked up world your anything goes attitude would bring about. Thats exactly why this west is going down the toilet.

Thailand is a nationalist right-wing militaristic society but they are also tolerant and have the most transgenders and possibly gays in the world.

Having all those ladyboys and gays has not made their society anything like the West.

Sexual orientation is not why the West is going down.

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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2016, 10:45:25 PM »
Tu, what do you want me to say? The majority of normal people couldn't give a shit whether someone wants to change gender, marry their gay partner, if you're  black, white, yellow or otherwise but progressives seem to want to make a big deal out of nothing....literally. No one will EVER stop racism, discrimination or anything else the progressives want to make up. As far as I'm concerned it comes down to one thing....$$$.

I hardly know anyone that cares if someone from the same sex lives together. The same sex legal marriage BS all comes down to benefits. Tax and health care benefits and a few more. Other than that, who cares. I sure as hell don't.

I was specifically talking about your comments about climate change.

However, I will flip it on you.

It's not progressives fighting against the same rights for all.


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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2016, 11:19:47 PM »
Dude, you've been having meltdowns of epic proportions lately. Protect yourself. You've been dumbing down quite a bit and making no sense. Was it the Killary threads? Btw, it still it against my morals. What the fuck does that have to do with anything.

it's election season, man.   I'm pumped.  Super excited about Trump fixing the USA!

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« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2016, 03:14:32 AM »
Thailand is a nationalist right-wing militaristic society but they are also tolerant and have the most transgenders and possibly gays in the world.

Having all those ladyboys and gays has not made their society anything like the West.

Sexual orientation is not why the West is going down.



Im not going to waste my time on this crap anymore. We are on total opposite sides of the spectrum in regards to transgender individuals.

I see no difference in these two people as far as their mental state of mind, which I find to be ill. One thinks they should have been born a cat, the other a woman. You think this is perfectly normal and society is forced to embrace this instead of stepping back and asking some real questions.

 By the way the cat guy killed himself. Seems to be an ongoing theme with people that have these mental issues. Good Luck.

 







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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2016, 03:51:26 AM »
I see no difference in these two people as far as their mental state of mind, which I find to be ill. One thinks they should have been born a cat, the other a woman. You think this is perfectly normal and society is forced to embrace this instead of stepping back and asking some real questions.
All well and good. But what would your plan of action be? Take away an adult's personal choice by forcing them into therapy, drugs and possibly even being involuntarily institutionalised? Or more generally speaking, are you for personal freedom only for those actions you personally deem acceptable? If so, then why stop at transgenders? I think modern feminists are crazy. Lock those up too? How about right-wing militia nutcases? Force them to take their pills. Bodybuilders with body dysmorphia? Ban then from all gyms.

Before anyone wants to twist this into something it is not: I don't believe being transgender is a thing. But if they want to believe it is, then it should be their personal freedom as an adult to do so.

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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2016, 03:55:39 AM »
Tu, what do you want me to say? The majority of normal people couldn't give a shit whether someone wants to change gender, marry their gay partner, if you're  black, white, yellow or otherwise but progressives seem to want to make a big deal out of nothing....literally. No one will EVER stop racism, discrimination or anything else the progressives want to make up. As far as I'm concerned it comes down to one thing....$$$.

I hardly know anyone that cares if someone from the same sex lives together. The same sex legal marriage BS all comes down to benefits. Tax and health care benefits and a few more. Other than that, who cares. I sure as hell don't.

Perhaps people in long term relationships wanted equal legal protection if their partners were hospitalized or died.

Normal people, LOL!

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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2016, 03:58:33 AM »
I hardly know anyone that cares if someone from the same sex lives together. The same sex legal marriage BS all comes down to benefits. Tax and health care benefits and a few more. Other than that, who cares. I sure as hell don't.
Agreed, this is bizarre. There should be no financial benefit in marrying, straight nor gay. The state should not be involved in any marriage, at all, ever. I take it you support this position as well? Small government for the win.

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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2016, 04:03:38 AM »
Agreed, this is bizarre. There should be no financial benefit in marrying, straight nor gay. The state should not be involved in any marriage, at all, ever. I take it you support this position as well? Small government for the win.

Small Govt Conservatives are an endangered species. We're being hunted to extinction by right-wingers who want the US govt and political system to be extensions of their religion.

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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2016, 04:40:49 AM »
All well and good. But what would your plan of action be? Take away an adult's personal choice by forcing them into therapy, drugs and possibly even being involuntarily institutionalised? Or more generally speaking, are you for personal freedom only for those actions you personally deem acceptable? If so, then why stop at transgenders? I think modern feminists are crazy. Lock those up too? How about right-wing militia nutcases? Force them to take their pills. Bodybuilders with body dysmorphia? Ban then from all gyms.

Before anyone wants to twist this into something it is not: I don't believe being transgender is a thing. But if they want to believe it is, then it should be their personal freedom as an adult to do so.

I agree that everyone should have a choice on how they should live their lives (as long as no one is hurt) and that to an extent, almost everyone suffers from some form of mental issue.

However, I think the problem many have with the whole transgender movement is the forced acceptence of it as something that is totally natural and that those who change their gender are just as authentic in their new sex as those who are born within it. Caitlyn Jenner winning "Woman of the Year" is a good example of this.

Anyone who speaks out against this, is quickly branded a bigot.
Germaine Greer was branded "transphobic" for simply stating that transgender women "are not real women". 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34625512

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/germaine-greer-defends-grossly-offensive-comments-about-transgender-women-just-because-you-lop-off-a6709061.html

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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2016, 04:42:51 AM »
I agree that everyone should have a choice on how they should live their lives (as long as no one is hurt) and that to an extent, almost everyone suffers from some form of mental issue.

However, I think the problem many have with the whole transgender movement is the forced acceptence of it as something that is totally natural and that those who change their gender are just as authentic in their new sex as those who are born within it. Caitlyn Jenner winning "Woman of the Year" is a good example of this.

Anyone who speaks out against this, is quickly branded a bigot.
Germaine Greer was branded "transphobic" for simply stating that transgender women "are not real women". 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34625512

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/germaine-greer-defends-grossly-offensive-comments-about-transgender-women-just-because-you-lop-off-a6709061.html
Agreed that forced acceptance is a step too far. Everyone should be able to express themselves freely, as long as it doesn't turn into libel/slander.

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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2016, 07:55:59 AM »

Im not going to waste my time on this crap anymore. We are on total opposite sides of the spectrum in regards to transgender individuals.

I see no difference in these two people as far as their mental state of mind, which I find to be ill. One thinks they should have been born a cat, the other a woman. You think this is perfectly normal and society is forced to embrace this instead of stepping back and asking some real questions.

 By the way the cat guy killed himself. Seems to be an ongoing theme with people that have these mental issues. Good Luck.

 








By your definition, almost all male Athenians, Spartans and Macedonians were 'mentally diseased' as it was normal in their culture to have a relationship with a younger male. The same applies to Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

Macedonians were more extreme,  with adult men having relationships, the Spartans each were paired with a male 'lover', and the Athenians were well known for liking boys. Athens had a statue in their main public square of two homosexual lovers who killed their tyrant and helped bring in democracy. It was considered 'normal' in those days.


These are the founding fathers of Western civilization, political system and philosophy.

They also had transgenders in those days, castrated males who would dress and live as women and have relationships with men. They were called eunuchs. Even Alexander the Great had a relationship with a eunuch.

By your definition the pre-Christian Europe, North Africa and Middle East were all mentally diseased people.

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« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2016, 08:06:15 AM »
Yes, a militaristic skull-bashing government just happens to be overloaded with weak males in the general population.

All perfectly coincidental, though!

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« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2016, 08:12:32 AM »
Aggressive males in a general population are the first line of defense against wrongful power-grabs.

So if you're part of a cabal with tyranny in mind, you have every reason to want to see the males in that society turn into a sad bunch of Bruce Jenners.

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« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2016, 08:14:51 AM »
By your definition, almost all male Athenians, Spartans and Macedonians were 'mentally diseased' as it was normal in their culture to have a relationship with a younger male. The same applies to Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

Macedonians were more extreme,  with adult men having relationships, the Spartans each were paired with a male 'lover', and the Athenians were well known for liking boys. Athens had a statue in their main public square of two homosexual lovers who killed their tyrant and helped bring in democracy. It was considered 'normal' in those days.


These are the founding fathers of Western civilization, political system and philosophy.

They also had transgenders in those days, castrated males who would dress and live as women and have relationships with men. They were called eunuchs. Even Alexander the Great had a relationship with a eunuch.

By your definition the pre-Christian Europe, North Africa and Middle East were all mentally diseased people.


Interesting post, but you forgot to make "the announcement".

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« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2016, 08:19:06 AM »
By your definition, almost all male Athenians, Spartans and Macedonians were 'mentally diseased' as it was normal in their culture to have a relationship with a younger male. The same applies to Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

Macedonians were more extreme,  with adult men having relationships, the Spartans each were paired with a male 'lover', and the Athenians were well known for liking boys. Athens had a statue in their main public square of two homosexual lovers who killed their tyrant and helped bring in democracy. It was considered 'normal' in those days.


These are the founding fathers of Western civilization, political system and philosophy.

They also had transgenders in those days, castrated males who would dress and live as women and have relationships with men. They were called eunuchs. Even Alexander the Great had a relationship with a eunuch.

By your definition the pre-Christian Europe, North Africa and Middle East were all mentally diseased people.


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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2016, 08:28:03 AM »
People should own their own shit and stop using religion as an excuse to hate.

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« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2016, 08:31:35 AM »
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« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2016, 08:36:59 AM »
People should own their own shit and stop using religion as an excuse to hate.

Did you see the post about "castrating males" and "liking boys" etc. etc. made to try to somehow show that it's not at all a sign of derangement?  Never mind that it succeeded only in doing the opposite.

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« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2016, 09:12:57 AM »
Did you see the post about "castrating males" and "liking boys" etc. etc. made to try to somehow show that it's not at all a sign of derangement?  Never mind that it succeeded only in doing the opposite.

The main point is that is what is considered 'normal' changes over time according to the changing cultures of society.

The other point, is that gays and transgenders have existed for thousands of years, its not some new phenomenon.

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Re: Former Johns Hopkins Chief of Psychiatry Says Trans Movement is....
« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2016, 09:14:18 AM »
The main point is that is what is considered 'normal' changes over time according to the changing cultures of society.

The other point, is that gays and transgenders have existed for thousands of years, its not some new phenomenon.

So "normal" automatically equals "good" or what?  I'm trying to figure out what you're saying.