my TRT TREATMENT has turned me into a horny teenager

[Van_Bilderass]

Since TRT is designed to bring your levels back to normal wouldn't or could you get those sides anyway? As men get older and their Test level drops this doesn't seem to make them immune to high blood pressure, prostate cancer, gyno, balding, heart disease. In fact, just getting old, regardless of Test levels increase these risks.

What are the sides of normal Tests levels versus low Test levels? If you smoke a pack a day of cigs it's claimed that you lose about ten yours off you life. For many this is worth it. Is life only about living long? How many years does one think is lost by keeping your Test levels at normal levels and would it be better and increase longevity to have your levels below normal?

It's not known for sure why TRT causes those sides. One scientific paper speculated that it might be due to higher test spikes shortly after injection, for example - this was regarding the increased red blood cells. For some reason this effect is more pronounced the older you are.

TRT in many cases isn't really about correcting some real imbalance these days, it's about "optimizing levels" for increased perceived quality of life. Not always about health per se - it's a performance enhancer. Nothing wrong with this at all IMO but the ethics of the TRT industry have been discussed a lot in recent years.

[oldgolds]

I run Test almost year round.....at 61 years old I`m a virile Weider Wildcat !!  

You don't mind that your balls are going to be the size of kidney beans?

[wes]

Just threw in some Tren........thanks Van............watch out honey here it copmes!  LOL 

[moty]

ITT: geriatrics that think they are sex maniacs just because their cock finally works semi-decent after years of being a flaccid failure of a man.

[Never1AShow]

Look at that graph, is it really only about 100-150 difference that makes up the difference between an old dude and a young buck?  Other than that short spike in the AM?  All the difference and the societal implications of them due to just a little bit more test in the blood?  Crazy.

[Bevo]

It's not known for sure why TRT causes those sides. One scientific paper speculated that it might be due to higher test spikes shortly after injection, for example - this was regarding the increased red blood cells. For some reason this effect is more pronounced the older you are.

TRT in many cases isn't really about correcting some real imbalance these days, it's about "optimizing levels" for increased perceived quality of life. Not always about health per se - it's a performance enhancer. Nothing wrong with this at all IMO but the ethics of the TRT industry have been discussed a lot in recent years.

What is the trt dosages that are prescribed by a doctor?

Is it really safe, yes side effects exist, but long term say 10-20 yrs consistent usage?

But aren't side effects also dosage dependent esp for steriods? Some prob more sensitive than others which is a given like some forms of medication/steriods, etc..

[Van_Bilderass]

What is the trt dosages that are prescribed by a doctor?

Is it really safe, yes side effects exist, but long term say 10-20 yrs consistent usage?

But aren't side effects also dosage dependent esp for steriods? Some prob more sensitive than others which is a given like some forms of medication/steriods, etc..

Nowadays the average dosage seems to be something like 80-200mg of test cypionate per week. The 200mg level is very performance enhancing, I don't care if labs still put you in the normal range (a normal male produces up up 50mg per week). Here in Europe we have Nebido which is a 1000mg vial of test undecanoate. You take it all at once every 8-12 weeks IIRC. I'm sure it will be popular in the states soon, not sure why it isn't in use yet.

Hard to say how common long term sides will be. We will see when this TRT generation ages.

[Thong Maniac]

since coming off TRT i foujnd out this; my test level recovered, to higher than i did pre-TRT.

however...

my sexual drive, urge, etc is TERRIBLE. like i have zero interest in sex. i wonder if this will improve. its been about 6 months now since i stopped

[devilsmile]

ITT: geriatrics that think they are sex maniacs just because their cock finally works semi-decent after years of being a flaccid failure of a man.

LOL, this is fucking true! Well done, sir

It's better to produce testosterone naturally.

Once you introduce testosterone to the body from an external source you upset the fine balance of hormones in the body.

Injecting test e or c produces a testosterone release similar to an old man, steady across the whole day.

Young people produce testosterone in a pulse, highest in the morning and dropping thirty or so percent across the day. This fluctuating hormone level produces a much better and more natural libido.



People who use T gels or creams at the right dose find that their libido is better than on injections due to this fluctuation, plus higher DHT levels.

Testicles produce more hormones than just testosterone such as pregnenolone. These hormones are needed by the body and brain for optimal functioning. This is shut down in TRT users due to LH being suppressed.

There are LH receptors in other tissues and organs of the body besides the testes. LH is needed for optimal functioning. This is why when TRT users add HCG to their protocol they can feel much better as they increase pregnenolone and activate LH receptors in other target tissues and create a pulse of hormones.

Many cases of low testosterone are due to dysfunction of the adrenal and thyroid glands. Normalizing these will often cure low testosterone and mood problems. Sleep, dietary and low amounts of important vitamins such as vitamin D are other causes.

Some men find that they feel worse on TRT then they were with low natural test. They feel great for the first month, then start to feel worse as their natural hormonal system shuts down and hormones become unbalanced. They complain of brain fog or erectile and libido dysfunction. In these cases often adding HCG and controlling estrogen levels can improve the situation. But this adds complexity which in a natural is handled automatically by the body.

For some men, low dose clomid works well to boost testosterone with low side effects, but for others clomid can cause libido and mood issues, or have no effect on testosterone levels at all due to unresponsive testicles (primary hypogonadism). For those of whom for which  clomid works, taking  cheap tablet a few times a week and preserving natural hormone functioning in the body is much better than injecting testosterone, and upsetting the natural balance of the body.

TRT should be a last resort after trying other methods to increase testosterone.

And this further convinces me not to take it. I rather watch womens gymanstics and try not to jerk off, then go train.