ND, I agree that in that pic Dorian's back is better, but Ronnie's arms and shoulder kill him. In later years, when Ronnie is like 30 pounds heavier, he is thicker and wider than Dorian. It is no contest. Dorian is drier, but his arms suck. His delts have no shape. His glutes aren't ripped and Ronnie's hams are better. Calves are all Dorian. Only a blind man would constantly go on about Dorian being superior. In 1995 yes, in 2005....NO. Ronnie has taken it to a different level. From the front he is thicker and better. dorian had better abs initially, but by 1995-1996, he had a disastrous GH gut also. Regardless, if Haney would have kept on going this would be a moot discussion. I like Dorian, but he is far from the greatest BB ever. Hell, according to Arnold, he was an average Mr. Olympia. Once again, give Sergio and Arnold the drugs these guys took and you would see how far aesthetic, pleasing physiques with mass look. Dorian was mass, but his lines were average at best. Ronnie does not have the most pleasing shape, yet he tapers better than Yates. They are both great, but I feel that Ronnie 2003 would have slaughtered Yates easily.