Shawn Ray 1987 NPC Nationals

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

No version of Shawn could be Lee Haney's best.

I agree Wiggs. Conversely, we ought to be grateful Shawn never won the "O".... Can you imagine his already inflated ego with a title under his belt?? Lol!!

[Wiggs]

I agree Wiggs. Conversely, we ought to be grateful Shawn never won the "O".... Can you imagine his already inflated ego with a title under his belt?? Lol!!

It would be the worst. He'd try to convince us he's the most complete Mr. O of all time.

[Bevo]

Crazy how Shawn never won but Dexter has, goes to show u different eras, Shawn would have won one if he competed in today's line up

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ray talked shit about beatin Haney leading up to the 1991 Olympia. And then he got TotaLEE crushed by Haney.

I found the quote lol talk about delusion

" If I can stop Haney I will do more in that one victory than anybody else has been able to do in this history of bodybuilding; and that is to knock off an Olympia champion of seven years standing. Remember, nobody took the title off of Arnold, he retired undefeated. So I'm driven by the historical perspective of the contest, in the sense that if I take the title away from the all-time champ, then there can be no doubt who's the best bodybuilder in the world. "

fucking dumbass was 5th place. And using his warped logic does that leave no doubt who the best bodybuilder in the world when Jay stopped Ronnie dead in his tracks for 9 straight?

[Royalty]

I found the quote lol talk about delusion

" If I can stop Haney I will do more in that one victory than anybody else has been able to do in this history of bodybuilding; and that is to knock off an Olympia champion of seven years standing. Remember, nobody took the title off of Arnold, he retired undefeated. So I'm driven by the historical perspective of the contest, in the sense that if I take the title away from the all-time champ, then there can be no doubt who's the best bodybuilder in the world. "

fucking dumbass was 5th place. And using his warped logic does that leave no doubt who the best bodybuilder in the world when Jay stopped Ronnie dead in his tracks for 9 straight?

Shawn also talked about how Haney had weak hamstrings, calves, and arms.

But when Shawn saw Haney in the pump era at the 1991 Olympia, Shawn realized that Haney was unbeatable.

Shawn spoke about that moment after the show. "I realized that I wasn't going to make history. But rather, I was going to be a part of history."

[illuminati]

I don't care if Lincoln got shot

1987..!!! Jeez time flies

21 yr old Looking That Good.
No not the biggest in terms of Bodyweight / mass
But what a Great Physique

Neigh on 30yrs and has top level bodybuilding really improved.??

[Slik]

ray posed to perfection esp for his build
possessed full muscle bellies which helped him look bigger than he was
great shape chest/delts/arms
waist line throughout career was top notch.serratus/intercosals

drawbacks
small in height in weight compared to mass guys of that era
legs were at times too big compared to his upperbody and they were chunky looking with too much tear drop and separation that at times was not deep.
John brown was his posing coach. Saw Shawn many times in the gym bitd. Incredible.

[njflex]

oh yeah,,he was a john brown clone even same look sorta bodywise when posing,john brown influenced a lot of those guys.

[SaintAnger]

Compared to today's pros, ANY PRO from back in Shawn's era make these guys from todays crop look like a bunch of fucking SCRUBS.

[Danimal77]

Crazy how Shawn never won but Dexter has, goes to show u different eras, Shawn would have won one if he competed in today's line up

Without a doubt. Dexter was the poor man's Shawn Ray.

[Danimal77]

1987..!!! Jeez time flies

21 yr old Looking That Good.
No not the biggest in terms of Bodyweight / mass
But what a Great Physique

Neigh on 30yrs and has top level bodybuilding really improved.??

I don't think that anyone believes that top level bodybuilding has improved since Ronnie Coleman. In fact, it's the worst it's ever been. I think Affeman is our one outlier though, so he doesn't count. 

[Meaningless]

Who in their right mind wants a trophy that big?
Shawns height aside.

[Dr Dutch]

DUTCH,,,what was amazing was look at the lists of the classes even the lighter classes,,you will see so many future or almost right there pro's in thoses classes its absurd..

Yeah that happened especially in those days. Leidelmeyer, Mendenhall,...
There was like a tsunami of wannabe-shouldhavebe-pro's.
So luck is a big thing too....

[Royalty]

Yeah that happened especially in those days. Leidelmeyer, Mendenhall,...
There was like a tsunami of wannabe-shouldhavebe-pro's.
So luck is a big thing too....

Looking back, in the 80's & 90's, the top 3 placers at every NPC Nationanls and NPC USA's should've been given pro cards.

[Simple Simon]

Looking back, in the 80's & 90's, the top 3 placers at every NPC Nationanls and NPC USA's should've been given pro cards.

and now they give out about a hundred a year at least

[njflex]

and now they give out about a hundred a year at least

YES BIZARRE..

[Dr Dutch]

x2 lotsa great guys were fucked....

[old-school-lifter]

Is that Lyle AIDzado as MC?

Lyle loved the cock, no?

[PTB]

Is Shawn best 202/212 ever?

I think he makes a strong case.. and I think his physique would win 212 Olympia today

[Danimal77]

Is Shawn best 202/212 ever?

I think he makes a strong case.. and I think his physique would win 212 Olympia today

Of course Shawn would win today. Shawn would have won the last few years since big Ron's retirement EASILY.

[Bevo]

and now they give out about a hundred a year at least

More than half go to physique and bikini competitors , being a ifbb pro means jack shit even more now

[TheOne]

Lol 205lbs beating Haney, he's already known to be a compulsive liar but to lie to yourself that's just straight retarded.  I'm so happy Shawn never won an Olympia, we would have never heard the end of it.