Bob Paris - was Pretty Massive in 1984

[Simple Simon]

Any idea what he was weighing at that time?

he was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes.

[Deacon Jeschin]

"He was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes." - Rod Jackson's cock

[Royal Lion]

He looked awesome in 1988.

[Kwon]

he was big in the 91 Olympia but was way too soft in the glutes.

Did you touch them?

[Kwon]

Are you going to delete your files clean your hard drive and move to mars?

Stopped right there, cleared my history cookies and caches, restarted PC, did full PC scan, reinstalled windows and moved out of my country.

[Eric2]

 

[njflex]

He looked awesome in 1988.

yeah,,,one year he came in under 210 and was too small/thin,,

[Danimal77]

yeah,,,one year he came in under 210 and was too small/thin,,

That's like the year (1979) Rory Leidelmeyer made the mistake of over dieting and came in at like 192 pounds and people thought he had become anorexic. The least Bob Paris ever weighed was 198 pounds in the early 1980's (like 1982 or 1983). I think he averaged 225 in competition and around 250 in the offseason.

Below is a picture of Rory at 192 pounds. He never made that mistake again. He would come in at 230-235 from 1980 onwards.

[Danimal77]

Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.

[chokeslam]

Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.

Who needs guys like Rory and Bob when we got fucktards like Rich Piano and Bostin Loyd? LOL

[Nether Animal]

Rory and Bob looking fucking amazing here.

Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

[pellius]

Arnold said it after Serge died. The IFBB banned a Serge from the 1975 Olympia originally after he released a pic of himself in shape months ahead as Arnold knew he was beaten ( this pic http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=109977.0;attach=293827 ) would have ruined "Pumping Iron" - they let him back just before the event after hearing he hadn't been training since the ban.

40 years on Arnold has nothing to prove so he can be honest now.

Do you have a link to confirm this?

And no way on heaven and earth would the powers that be would have allowed Serge to beat Arnold. Even if Serge was better. Even if there was no Pumping Iron to promote Arnold. Even if it wasn't held in apartheid South Africa.

As far as would Arnold lie decades later? I'm sure he'll still say that Franco legit won the '81 O.

[Danimal77]

Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

[Simple Simon]

They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

yes, its the same with barbell curl biceps and chinners lats

[Bevo]

They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak

[crownshep]

That's like the year (1979) Rory Leidelmeyer made the mistake of over dieting and came in at like 192 pounds and people thought he had become anorexic. The least Bob Paris ever weighed was 198 pounds in the early 1980's (like 1982 or 1983). I think he averaged 225 in competition and around 250 in the offseason.

Below is a picture of Rory at 192 pounds. He never made that mistake again. He would come in at 230-235 from 1980 onwards.

The pic is from 81 nationals when  Rory placed 2nd to Belknap in the light heavies,Bob was at his lightest in 82 when he should have got down to light heavy but didnt make it and Haney won the heavy class at nationals,Moses Maldonado won light heavies.

[Simple Simon]

Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak

for the last 30 years bodybuilders have been concentrating on incline bench for the upper pecs.

Are there lots of bodybuilders around with overly developed upper pecs?

No, its because it doesn't matter what exercise's you do, muscle size and shape is genetic.

[OB1]

Serge nubret was better

Agreed.
Top 3 easily.

[Rudee]

They both had bench press pecs. All the guys had big chests back in the day (unlike the current Mr. O). They weren't scared to lie on a bench and press the barbell up and it showed.

The pecs had the illusion of looking bigger because they didn't have bloated stomachs and over-developed lats, thus chest development stood out.

[Taffin]

Paris legitimately beating him there. Better structure. Rory was a tad narrow

Totally agree - it's all about clavicular(?) width...

Also, notice how they are standing in the relaxed pose?  Arms kinda by their sides?  Makes me want to start a thread about how the 'relaxed' pose has ended up looking like this f**king abomination... 

[honest]

That photo right there was the reason i stopped following bodybuilding, I kept a passive interest after retiring mid 90s but with the emergence of things like Branch I never went to a show or bought a magazine again or followed online outside of this G&O, the modern sport and its disregard for structure as part of the criteria is a big part of the reason the sport never progressed, I don't think it could ever have been reinvented like the UFC did to MMA, but if we could have kept physiques looking more human like Bob, the sport could have certainly had a chance at becoming something more than it is today.

[Simple Simon]

That photo right there was the reason i stopped following bodybuilding, I kept a passive interest after retiring mid 90s but with the emergence of things like Branch I never went to a show or bought a magazine again or followed online outside of this G&O, the modern sport and its disregard for structure as part of the criteria is a big part of the reason the sport never progressed, I don't think it could ever have been reinvented like the UFC did to MMA, but if we could have kept physiques looking more human like Bob, the sport could have certainly had a chance at becoming something more than it is today.

the IFBB and its judging are to blame, the athletes just try and recreate whats being rewarded,

[Danimal77]

Think it also has to do with today bbers have massive shoulders and arms overpowering thier chest making it look weak

Arnold and Lou both had huge arms decent sized shoulders, but their chests were massive and thick and never overpowered and I've always believed this was due to old school free weight bench pressing. It just comes with the territory.

[Danimal77]

The pic is from 81 nationals when  Rory placed 2nd to Belknap in the light heavies,Bob was at his lightest in 82 when he should have got down to light heavy but didnt make it and Haney won the heavy class at nationals,Moses Maldonado won light heavies.

You're right, that pic of Rory was from 1981 and the year Bob weighed 1982 pounds in competition (over dieted as well) was in 1982. Thanks for reminding me. I have boxes of Muscle and Fitness magazines dating back to 1981, and Flex magazine as well which started in 1984 I believe. I stopped collecting them in 2000.

[Danimal77]

The pecs had the illusion of looking bigger because they didn't have bloated stomachs and over-developed lats, thus chest development stood out.

Nah, guys like Flex Wheeler had TINY pecs and he was known to never do free weight bench presses. Had he done them, he could have brought up his chest size.