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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2016, 06:07:00 PM »
Uh oh, Trumps got 32 percent of Hispanic vote

LOL @ celebrating this.  32 percent.   President Mccain had 33 percent.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2016, 07:52:35 PM »
LOL @ celebrating this.  32 percent.   President Mccain had 33 percent.

Romney had 24%

Romney didn't lose because of the Hispanic vote.

3-4 more points for Trump and that might do it.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2016, 07:54:14 PM »
Romney had 24%

Romney didn't lose because of the Hispanic vote.

3-4 more points for Trump and that might do it.

I'd have to see weeks & weeks of consistent polling for this to be the case.   Right now, many people bust a nut every time they see a good poll and ignore the 9 others that say otherwise.

Romney 27, Mccain 33, Bush2004 44%
And I think the hispanic # of population is 3-4% bigger today than in 2004.  Trump would have to win over another 1 in 5 hispanics, maybe 2 in 5, to win it.  He plans on wrecking that on wednesday with his immigration speech.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2016, 09:35:25 PM »
I'd have to see weeks & weeks of consistent polling for this to be the case.   Right now, many people bust a nut every time they see a good poll and ignore the 9 others that say otherwise.

Romney 27, Mccain 33, Bush2004 44%
And I think the hispanic # of population is 3-4% bigger today than in 2004.  Trump would have to win over another 1 in 5 hispanics, maybe 2 in 5, to win it.  He plans on wrecking that on wednesday with his immigration speech.
u r assuming that Hispanics want more illegals coming in. Who knows what's gonna happen in the election but it's getting very interesting now.

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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2016, 10:09:07 PM »

Shocking Numbers Reveal GOP’s Big Secret: Trump Is Bankrupting The Republican Party


An analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump's drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.


n analysis of RNC fundraising data has revealed that beyond losing, Donald Trump’s drain of a campaign is literally bankrupting the Republican Party.

According to Open Secrets, RNC contributions are at their lowest point since before 2004:

Virtually every category of receipts shows a decline this year. Contributions from individuals where the amount given is less than $200 (the “unitemized” category) is less than half what it was in July of 2004, 2008 and 2012. There is a similar decline in direct contributions of larger amounts where specific information about the donor is included in the report. These itemized contributions total much less than July 2004 and 2008 and are even smaller than July 2012 when joint fundraising became much more important.

These joint fundraising efforts where the presidential campaign works together with the national party and state parties around the country are increasingly important, and the RNC total from those efforts also lags in July compared with 2012 and 2008. The Trump campaign has talked about huge joint fundraising successes, but neither the campaign nor the RNC has received all that much from this process so far comparatively.

People often look at cash balances and the end of the month to get a feel for how a committee is positioned for future spending. Here too, the RNC on July 31 was strikingly short of its own status on the same date in past campaigns. At a time when $70 to $90 million is the norm, the RNC finds itself with only $34.5 million in the bank.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/27/shocking-numbers-reveal-gops-big-secret-trump-bankrupting-republican-party.html



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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2016, 10:26:27 PM »
Uh oh, Trumps got 32 percent of Hispanic vote

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/08/29/gallup-poll-donald-trump-currently-holds-32-of-national-hispanic-vote/

wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?


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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2016, 10:37:26 PM »
wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?

President Romney has done a fantastic job.

I see. You read an article that fit your argument and went with it. Got it!

It's gotta suck to see Trump bankrupting the RNC.  The numbers don't lie.  They have 1/3 of what they had last time at this point.  Trump is wrecking his own party. 

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2016, 10:40:17 PM »
wait a second.  they take the gallup poll, which says 65% Clinton, and 21% Trump, and change some of the numbers, and come up with different numbers.  How did unskewing the polls work for you guy last time?

What was democrat turnout last time?  Think it'll be the same this time without Obama, and with all those Bernie voters staying home?  Hell, it wasn't even the same during this primary season.  Hillary is hated by the working folks.  Trump brought back Reagan democrats.  

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2016, 10:41:50 PM »
President Romney has done a fantastic job.

It's gotta suck to see Trump bankrupting the RNC.  The numbers don't lie.  They have 1/3 of what they had last time at this point.  Trump is wrecking his own party. 

Still waiting for that quote you promised where Trump says he'll deport only felons.  Hillary has said even worse though, she'll only deport Serious Violent felons.

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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2016, 10:50:08 PM »
What was democrat turnout last time?  Think it'll be the same this time without Obama, and with all those Bernie voters staying home?  Hell, it wasn't even the same during this primary season.  Hillary is hated by the working folks.  Trump brought back Reagan democrats. 

It's so weird how these numbers aren't reflected in polls.   Polls which were insanely accurate in 2012.

Still waiting for that quote you promised where Trump says he'll deport only felons.  Hillary has said even worse though, she'll only deport Serious Violent felons.

You're the last human being on this planet that doesn't think Trump flipflopped on this.  He said he'd deport them all, then he said the good ones can stay.  I hate hilary, but she's gonna be the next president, dude. 

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2016, 10:27:26 AM »
the nominee will finalize his immigration position shortly

big speech planned for tomorrow
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2016, 10:31:47 AM »
It's so weird how these numbers aren't reflected in polls.   Polls which were insanely accurate in 2012.

You're the last human being on this planet that doesn't think Trump flipflopped on this.  He said he'd deport them all, then he said the good ones can stay.  I hate hilary, but she's gonna be the next president, dude. 
Unfortunately, if you promised "a promise is a promise".....unless you were just lying again.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2016, 10:55:07 AM »
the nominee will finalize his immigration position shortly

big speech planned for tomorrow

he was VERY clear about his immigration plan.   deport ALL illegals and they can apply to get back in.

Now his supporters are trying to backpedal about "oh, he's gonna clarify".  If anything, immigration was the ONLY issue where trump was crystal-freakin-clear for 14 months.  His new campaign manager conway intro'd this doubt into it, and he's been scrambling since. 

"Softening" = flipflopping.   His butthurt supporters will do anything do sidestep that.

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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2016, 12:34:23 PM »
he was VERY clear about his immigration plan.   deport ALL illegals and they can apply to get back in.

Now his supporters are trying to backpedal about "oh, he's gonna clarify".  If anything, immigration was the ONLY issue where trump was crystal-freakin-clear for 14 months.  His new campaign manager conway intro'd this doubt into it, and he's been scrambling since. 

"Softening" = flipflopping.   His butthurt supporters will do anything do sidestep that.


he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!



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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2016, 12:53:11 PM »
he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!

Anyone got the video of this?

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2016, 12:57:17 PM »
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2016, 02:11:21 PM »
he went on hannity and asked the audience for ideas

all hell broke loose

palin and coulter freaked out

lets hope they figure out the final position soon!

That was so hilarious.  It was last Tuesday I think.  Asked the crowd what he should think. 

His team or him have delivered 9 variations on his position in 11 days.  I suspect he will steal the liberal "touch foot" position tomorrow- technically amnesty. 

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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2016, 06:23:02 PM »
That was so hilarious.  It was last Tuesday I think.  Asked the crowd what he should think. 

His team or him have delivered 9 variations on his position in 11 days.  I suspect he will steal the liberal "touch foot" position tomorrow- technically amnesty. 

he will reverse his position into something more reality based and claim nothing has changed

they need to get the moderates on board

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2016, 06:28:41 PM »
he will reverse his position into something more reality based and claim nothing has changed

they need to get the moderates on board

I wonder how people can believe anything Trump says after revoking the #1 issue of his platform and completely embracing the Jeb/ Romney/ Obama Amnesty plan?   

Trump = A marginally competent lifetime liberal with no grasp of the issues.
I can see how marginally competent people with no grasp of politics would like him.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2016, 06:32:02 PM »
SELLOUT!

Trump considers last-minute meeting in Mexico with the country’s president

Donald Trump is considering jetting to Mexico City on Wednesday for a meeting with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, just hours before he delivers a high-stakes speech in Arizona to clarify his views on immigration policy, according to people in the United States and Mexico familiar with the discussions.

The possibility, which was hatched in recent days by Trump and his campaign advisers, comes after Trump has wavered for weeks over whether he would continue to hold his hard-line positions on the central and incendiary issue of his campaign, in particular his call to deport an estimated 11 million immigrants who are living in the United States illegally.

The people informed of Trump’s plans requested anonymity due to the sensitivity surrounding its planning. They said late Tuesday that talks between the Trump campaign and Mexican officials were ongoing, with Trump interested in going but logistics and security concerns still being sorted out.

Peña Nieto has extended an invitation for the businessman to come visit with him in Mexico to talk about various political and economic issues, the people said. Trump, sensing an opportunity, decided over the weekend to accept the invitation and push for a visit this week.

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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2016, 06:43:41 PM »
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM »


GREAT call.  Jeb, Kasich, rubio, they were ALL CORRECT about Trump.   It was definitely a flip flop.


Trump is working to elect hilary and bankrupt the RNC.  He's doing a fine job.   Sure, some folks can't admit it, because they would feel foolish.


Nobody called out trump early on, about his absurd policy.  The repub voters just wanted him too much. 


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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2016, 08:30:03 PM »
I wonder how people can believe anything Trump says after revoking the #1 issue of his platform and completely embracing the Jeb/ Romney/ Obama Amnesty plan?  

Trump = A marginally competent lifetime liberal with no grasp of the issues.
I can see how marginally competent people with no grasp of politics would like him.

the core supporters aren't exactly *critical thinkers*

I gather the assumption is they can be bamboozled into accepting this.
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Re: Trump Wins over Democrat and Independent Voters!
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2016, 08:31:37 PM »
the core supporters aren't exactly *critical thinkers*
I gather the assumption is they can be bamboozled into accepting this

yes, trump believes he'll keep "enough of them" and gain "just a few more" to make selling out his #1 belief worth it. 

ANything to win - i get it.  But anyone who still claims trump is an outsider, incapable of selling out or giving up his core beliefs... well, he's just hilary in a suit.

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« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2016, 08:48:33 PM »
yes, trump believes he'll keep "enough of them" and gain "just a few more" to make selling out his #1 belief worth it. 

ANything to win - i get it.  But anyone who still claims trump is an outsider, incapable of selling out or giving up his core beliefs... well, he's just hilary in a suit.

they should renounce him immediately

sad to see his supporters so brutally humilated
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