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It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« on: September 05, 2016, 12:51:27 AM »
Predict now.  In 5 days, will this trend continue, with Trump catching and/or leading hilary? 

If HoffComposte is right, and 41.7% is Trump's local maximum, which he is at now--- then it'll start to drop now at worst, and just stay at this level at best.

Are these diehard liberals correct?  Or will trump continue to make gains - breaking the limit and move up to 43, 44, 45%?  WIll hilary keep falling?  Predict now!




Examine the trend at http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

There is a clear cyclical variation operating for the last few months in Trump's numbers. Also we appear to be at local maximum (his best performance is (usually) around 42%.




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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 08:34:13 AM »
Hillary is an utter train wreck right now

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 09:01:20 AM »
Hillary is an utter train wreck right now

She's out of bed.  Trump is at his 41.7 national average, his local max. 

He has to break new ground to the the lead now.

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 07:40:11 PM »
MONDAY - Trump drops .1 % in the national average to 41.6%

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 01:07:59 AM »
1) There is a delay between events and the polls.  The effects of the Mexico trip and Phoenix speech will show up later this week.  Expect Trump to drop, especially in states with large latino populations.  Like Florida.

2) Some analysis of polls suggest that Trump really hasn't gained anything in the last few weeks, but some Clinton supports are now saying they will vote for Stein or Johnson.  Third party voters tend to move back to their primary candidate when it comes the day of the election.

3) Remember Gore won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote. I don't think that will happen this time.  But even if the polls tighten, I just don't see any viable path for Trump to win the electoral vote.  Trump would have to win New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Iowa.  No way he could win them all.

4) Let's say Trump gets to 270 electoral votes.  What are the chances that one is a faithless elector?  The electoral college are actual people who meet in December to vote for the President and Vice President, and they are not bound to the candidate they pledged to.  The electoral college was specifically designed to prevent crazy shit from happening, like electing someone so unqualified for the job.  If enough electors choose not to vote, or vote for someone else, then the election would go to the (new, post election) House of Representatives, which is currently controlled by Republicans, and they can select anyone they want.  Then, if I remember my high school civics class correctly, the Senate gets to select the vice president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 07:10:06 AM »
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294552-trump-up-by-2-points-in-new-national-poll
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We are going by the aggregate here.   This poll has stein at 2, and johnson at 7.   other polls all week had Sten at 4 and Johnson at 10.  That's where those points came from, they didn't come from clinton - that's a huge deal.

This aggregate is the way to see how the nation is thinking.  It averages out outliers.  This AM, clinton and trump are both moving up a bit.  Maybe the johnson and stein voters are making their decision to choose from trump and hilary?

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 07:21:32 AM »
CNN Poll: Clinton Blows Double Digit Lead, Trails Trump By Two Points Nationally

A new CNN poll shows Republican Donald Trump has closed an 11-point gap with Democrat Hillary Clinton and leads her nationally in the race for the White House by two points.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton start the race to November 8 on essentially even ground, with Trump edging Clinton by a scant two points among likely voters, and the contest sparking sharp divisions along demographic lines in a new CNN/ORC Poll.


Trump tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the new survey, with Libertarian Gary Johnson standing at 7% among likely voters in this poll and the Green Party's Jill Stein at just 2%.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3466418/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3466418/posts

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 07:49:47 AM »
CNN Poll: Clinton Blows Double Digit Lead, Trails Trump By Two Points Nationally

A new CNN poll shows Republican Donald Trump has closed an 11-point gap with Democrat Hillary Clinton and leads her nationally in the race for the White House by two points.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton start the race to November 8 on essentially even ground, with Trump edging Clinton by a scant two points among likely voters, and the contest sparking sharp divisions along demographic lines in a new CNN/ORC Poll.


Trump tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the new survey, with Libertarian Gary Johnson standing at 7% among likely voters in this poll and the Green Party's Jill Stein at just 2%.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3466418/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3466418/posts


The SS Clinton has been taking on tons of water last few weeks

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 07:59:49 AM »

The SS Clinton has been taking on tons of water last few weeks

they're feeling the heat.   this week, they have biden, warren, everyone, out there on the campaign trail.  everyone but hilary lol

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2016, 07:32:12 PM »
MONDAY - Trump drops .1 % in the national average to 41.6%
TUESDAY - Trump improves .1% in the national average to 41.7%

WEDNESDAY - Trump moves up all the way to 42.4%

Hilary maintains a 5.4% national lead.  She moved up as well.

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2016, 07:48:47 PM »
Is he peaking or throwing the rigged election, I can't tell?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 08:40:24 AM »
Trump peaked Monday. 



538 has Clinton back up over 70% "Now Cast"

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 09:35:19 AM »
Trump peaked Monday. 



538 has Clinton back up over 70% "Now Cast"

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now
All part of the plan I'm sure
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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 08:13:57 PM »
MONDAY - Trump drops .1 % in the national average to 41.6%
TUESDAY - Trump improves .1% in the national average to 41.7%
WEDNESDAY - Trump moves up all the way to 42.4%



THURSDAY - Trump is beginning to level off nationally.   Trump is at 40.7% national poll average.


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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2016, 10:49:17 AM »
How did Friday end?

CLinton 47.3, Trump 42.3%

Hilary has a 5 point lead in the national average

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2016, 09:31:14 PM »
It's been 10 days.   Hilary is still up 4 points nationally.

Trump keeps leading in that LA Times poll.  Everywhere else in RCP, hilary is up 2-6 points nationally.

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 03:57:46 AM »
It's been 10 days.   Hilary is still up 4 points nationally.

Trump keeps leading in that LA Times poll.  Everywhere else in RCP, hilary is up 2-6 points nationally.


These polls are all over the place. Most of them do not provide polling data either.

Bloomberg - +5 Trump in Ohio (9/9 - 9/12)
CBS News - +7 Clinton in Ohio (9/7 - 9/9)
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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2016, 04:54:58 AM »
These polls are all over the place. Most of them do not provide polling data either.

Bloomberg - +5 Trump in Ohio (9/9 - 9/12)
CBS News - +7 Clinton in Ohio (9/7 - 9/9)

this thread is about the national averages.   Overall, trump still trails by 4 points in the national averages.

that has to change if he wishes to win.   Everyone was convinced, 10 days ago, that he was climbing.  He's not.  He's not gone over 45% nationally yet.  He's at 42.5% average, running against a zombie. 

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2016, 05:09:42 AM »
this thread is about the national averages.   Overall, trump still trails by 4 points in the national averages.

that has to change if he wishes to win.   Everyone was convinced, 10 days ago, that he was climbing.  He's not.  He's not gone over 45% nationally yet.  He's at 42.5% average, running against a zombie. 

RCP - Hillary's lead has gone from +6.0 to +2.8 natonally in one month. How is that not climbing?
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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2016, 05:52:17 AM »
Trump Surges in Polls....Hillary goes down
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/ ^
Posted on 9/14/2016, 7:35:43 AM by DOC44

Results Spread General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Tracking Clinton 42, Trump 47 Trump +5

Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Bloomberg Trump 44, Clinton 39, Johnson 10, Stein 3 Trump +5

Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton Bloomberg Clinton 43, Trump 48 Trump +5

Maine: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Boston Globe/SurveyUSA Clinton 42, Trump 39, Johnson 9, Stein 5 Clinton +3

Maine CD2: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Boston Globe Trump 47, Clinton 37, Johnson 8, Stein 5 Trump +10

Kansas: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein KSN News/SurveyUSA Trump 48, Clinton 36, Johnson 8, Stein 2 Trump +12

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2016, 05:52:55 AM »
RCP - Hillary's lead has gone from +6.0 to +2.8 natonally in one month. How is that not climbing?

her post-convention bounce subsided. 

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2016, 05:57:48 AM »
her post-convention bounce subsided. 

whatever makes you sleep at night.  :D

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2016, 06:01:27 AM »
whatever makes you sleep at night.  :D

last monday, all i heard on getbig was that trump was about to take the lead.   He's gained some ground back, but I haven't seen him hit 45% nationally yet.  I dont know that we will.

Especially because now he's getting slammed again.   Trump foundation shit coming.  Foreign $ shit coming.  Mental health 90s stuff coming.  Trump revealing "PART" of his health info on Dr Oz... Dr Oz already said he won't require proof of anything, the entire show is trump's word.  IF trump spent time in the 90s in a mental institution, YES, that shit is relevant.

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Re: It's Monday... Will Trump be TIED In polls by Friday (or leading?)
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2016, 06:04:26 AM »
last monday, all i heard on getbig was that trump was about to take the lead.   He's gained some ground back, but I haven't seen him hit 45% nationally yet.  I dont know that we will.

Especially because now he's getting slammed again.   Trump foundation shit coming.  Foreign $ shit coming.  Mental health 90s stuff coming.  Trump revealing "PART" of his health info on Dr Oz... Dr Oz already said he won't require proof of anything, the entire show is trump's word.  IF trump spent time in the 90s in a mental institution, YES, that shit is relevant.

Just like the Russian loans right? There will never be any definitive proof. Only a distraction for the media to get off of Hillary.

IF Hillary has Parkinson's, YES, that shit relevant.
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