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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2016, 05:48:34 AM »
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While in Germany socialism has attracted individual Jews, in Russia it has become a movement of the Jewish masses.

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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2016, 06:09:21 AM »
10 million people. I bet your kids never got taught about Genrikh Yagoda in school, or never saw a Hollywood movie about his atrocities.

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And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."

 

Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women

BTW this quote is from an Israeli news site....

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2016, 12:14:04 PM »
He is already Sir Dorian in Bodybuilding so why bother?

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2016, 12:30:04 PM »
Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?

Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??


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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2016, 01:31:06 PM »
Dorian is the man. What about the holocaust thing are you not too fond of?

Just come out and say it. Your panties are all twisted because someone shattered your world view of history. Is that it? You still believe in the fairy tale 6 million? What a perfect number. Not 5,980,000 or 6,235,000. Nope 6 million on the dot. How do they know that? That number has been revised upwards many times and was grabbed out of thin air. Fake jews have been occupying the airwaves far too long crying victim when the real victims the last 100 years have been White people and the Japanese. There is an ongoing crime of genocide going on currently against white people and their cultures. That should bother you more than the holocaust thing. What about the Holomodor thing? Care to comment on that??









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You make some very truthful & interesting points

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2016, 12:03:25 AM »

truth!!!!!!!!!

No, it is just bullshit. As you see at the first page, I make a simple question about the matter, and none of you can give an answer for it. If that what he is presenting would be true, it would be possible to prove, and it isn't. You can't prove lies to be truth, and he can't prove shit. Not in this theory, or any other theory he spread in his blind faith. That is the truth of the matter  ;D

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2016, 01:36:56 PM »
Still cycling, I see   :D ;D
haha ok joke...... :D

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2016, 01:38:21 PM »
Anyone who says the Holocaust never happened is just an asshole. No one can say how many died but fact is people were killed. Does it matter how many were murdered? The Jews and Soviet people were murdered by the Nazis.
Did Dorian say this ?
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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2016, 02:43:14 PM »
Good on Dorian - He Speaks his mind.
He has a lot of interesting views.

True. But he still oiled himself up and posed in a glittery thong for gay men for a living. And thinks that there's a possibility of the "elite" asking him to be Knighted for posing in a thong...Beyond delusional...

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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2016, 04:25:14 PM »
Fact is that sane people rather believe things which are proved, while idiots like you believes all the foil hat crap they found. As always, you don't have anything which would prove that holocaust didn't happen. All you have is denial and futile speculations, which stupidity shows how childish minds are feeding this bullshit to you, but you still believe every fucking word in it. That makes it ridiculously easy to give you some questions knowing that you don't have any answers. Are you ready? Here it comes: If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war?

And while you are searching through foil hat crap piles of the internet finding nothing like evidence, let me explain this simple matter to other readers: Whole "holohoax"- bullshit is insane try to clean reputation of the nazis, by the insane neo nazis. Most of the claims in it comes from the palestine etc. jew haters and have been around from the fifties. These foil hat idiots have adopt the claims without any thinking and not understanding that those claims are just ridiculous bullshit. For example, how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for that by the nazis? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"? Bit thick, ain't it?  ;D
And where is your proof that 6 million died (which is not even a big number to begin with compared with how many Europeans died)???

Ropo, you are in denial. Your world view is shattered when history as written by the victors are questioned. You are an individual that does not question anything. You except everything you are told. How did you become so gullible and naive? In your world there are no corrupt politicians (lol) even when it is clear just looking around you that there is corruption everywhere. In your world there are no conspiracies - humans simply do not conspire against other humans. Not sure how you can explain that though because then there would be no crime in the world if there were no conspiracies. There would be no wars.

Do you know the definition of a conspiracy? We already know by now you did not know the definition of diameter so I am just checking.

If anyone on Getbig is a moron / fool it is you, you dumb old fuck!

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2016, 04:26:03 PM »
True. But he still oiled himself up and posed in a glittery thong for gay men for a living. And thinks that there's a possibility of the "elite" asking him to be Knighted for posing in a thong...Beyond delusional...
Plenty of women and straight men follow BB as well. Its only gay if you want it to be  :P

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2016, 04:26:37 PM »
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322

Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.

Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.

1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.

Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.

2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.

"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.

The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.

3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.

Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.

An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.

No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".

This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.

Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)


Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk

In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.

6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.

The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.

I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.

Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.

The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.



The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.

The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.

The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.

7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.

8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.

It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com

9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.

10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.

Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.

11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.


12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.

Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.

13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.

Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.

And so on.

14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"

Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.

You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.

15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.

Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."

16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.

17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.

18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.

19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.

20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.

I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?

And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?

Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?

According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.

Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?

Something is rotten in Denmark!

That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2016, 04:45:15 PM »
No, it is just bullshit. As you see at the first page, I make a simple question about the matter, and none of you can give an answer for it. If that what he is presenting would be true, it would be possible to prove, and it isn't. You can't prove lies to be truth, and he can't prove shit. Not in this theory, or any other theory he spread in his blind faith. That is the truth of the matter  ;D
Same can be said for you. You can't prove shit either. However if such a large percentage of jews were killed why did the World Almanac report so many after the war? Perhaps because they did not yet come up with the magical 6 million number? LMAO!

"The World Almanac series of books sometimes provided two sets of figures for the world Jewish population. One came from the AJC (American Jewish Committee), and the other is the World Almanac's own estimation.

1933 : 15,316,359 (AJC), page 419
1934 : ???
1935 : ???
1936 : 15,753,633, page 748
1937 : ???
1938 : 15,748,091 (AJC), page 510
1939 : uses 1938 data
1940 : 15,290,983 (AJC), page 519; 15,319,359 (Almanac), page 129
1941 : uses 1938 data
1942 : 15,192,089, page 849
1943 : uses 1942 data
1944 : uses 1942 data
1945 : 15,688,259 (AJC), page 494; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1946 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 488; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1947 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 219; 15,690,000 (Almanac), page 748
1948 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 249; 15,753,638 (Almanac), page 849
1949 : n/a (AJC); 15,713,638 (Almanac), page 289
1950 : n/a (AJC); n/a (Almanac)

In 1949, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1939 and 1947:

1949 AJC revision for 1939 : 16,643,120, page 204
1949 AJC revision for 1947 : 11,266,600, page 204

After 1949, the World Almanac discontinued providing their own estimations, instead, they only reported the numbers given by AJC. In 1950, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1948:

1950 AJC revision for 1948 : 11,373,000, page 473

So, let's brief this quickly. The last available pre-war number comes from 1938. In 1940, they somehow got a new estimation. In 1941, they use the 1938 number, not the 1940 number. In 1942, they got a new estimation, which was then used in both the 1943 and 1944 versions, until the war ended and they made a new estimation for 1945, which was then used for 1946, 1947 and 1948. In 1949, the Almanac made an estimation of their own, whereas the AJC decided to revise the 1947 number instead.

15,688,259 - 11,266,600 = 4,421,659

Hmm, 4,4 million missing Jews. No, that can't be right. We all knew 6 million died before the Nuremberg Trials began anyway. So what to do? Well, the AJC had a great idea! They revised the 1939 number by adding 1 million Jews.

895,029 to be precise. So:

4,421,659 + 895,029 = 5,316,688

Bingo. The official Holocaust story goes that somewhere from 5,4 to 6 million Jews died. The number was predetermined and the AJC played along. Somehow they knew, 10 years later in 1949, that the 1938 and 1939 numbers were wrong. No mention of their source, no mention of their methodology used. They just changed the number. Poof.
Historians will tell you the added one million Jews comes from the Wannsee Conference, where the Nazis counted 11,000,000 Jews in Europe, but it is known that this number was exaggerated by roughly two million, therefore their point is moot. The additional one million are imaginary Jews, added for the sole purpose of having more Jews killed on paper. This is one of the essential bits of the lie that six million Jews died, but as we can, it couldn't possibly be six million, but 4,4 million maximum.

Now, this doesn't mean 4,4 million Jews died, because they didn't, it's just that most Jews after the war spread all over the world, took gentile names and became crypto-Jews. What's more, the AJC stopped reporting the actual number of Jews for current years, instead, they reported for two years back. Starting with 1949 when they "revised" the 1947 number, then in 1950 when they "revised" the 1948 number. They just kept "revising" the number of Jews two years back, ignoring the actual numbers. I wonder why?

Here's something interesting:

The 1933 World Almanac lists 682,400,000 Christians. The 1949 World Almanac lists 592,406,542 Christians. That's 89,993,458 less.

The Handbook of Council of Churches in the USA from 1951 lists 15,300,000 Jews."

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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2016, 07:05:31 PM »
Same can be said for you. You can't prove shit either. However if such a large percentage of jews were killed why did the World Almanac report so many after the war? Perhaps because they did not yet come up with the magical 6 million number? LMAO!

"The World Almanac series of books sometimes provided two sets of figures for the world Jewish population. One came from the AJC (American Jewish Committee), and the other is the World Almanac's own estimation.

1933 : 15,316,359 (AJC), page 419
1934 : ???
1935 : ???
1936 : 15,753,633, page 748
1937 : ???
1938 : 15,748,091 (AJC), page 510
1939 : uses 1938 data
1940 : 15,290,983 (AJC), page 519; 15,319,359 (Almanac), page 129
1941 : uses 1938 data
1942 : 15,192,089, page 849
1943 : uses 1942 data
1944 : uses 1942 data
1945 : 15,688,259 (AJC), page 494; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1946 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 488; 15,xxx,xxx (Almanac), page xxx
1947 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 219; 15,690,000 (Almanac), page 748
1948 : uses 1945 data (AJC), page 249; 15,753,638 (Almanac), page 849
1949 : n/a (AJC); 15,713,638 (Almanac), page 289
1950 : n/a (AJC); n/a (Almanac)

In 1949, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1939 and 1947:

1949 AJC revision for 1939 : 16,643,120, page 204
1949 AJC revision for 1947 : 11,266,600, page 204

After 1949, the World Almanac discontinued providing their own estimations, instead, they only reported the numbers given by AJC. In 1950, the AJC didn't provide an estimation for that year, instead, they revised the number of Jews for 1948:

1950 AJC revision for 1948 : 11,373,000, page 473

So, let's brief this quickly. The last available pre-war number comes from 1938. In 1940, they somehow got a new estimation. In 1941, they use the 1938 number, not the 1940 number. In 1942, they got a new estimation, which was then used in both the 1943 and 1944 versions, until the war ended and they made a new estimation for 1945, which was then used for 1946, 1947 and 1948. In 1949, the Almanac made an estimation of their own, whereas the AJC decided to revise the 1947 number instead.

15,688,259 - 11,266,600 = 4,421,659

Hmm, 4,4 million missing Jews. No, that can't be right. We all knew 6 million died before the Nuremberg Trials began anyway. So what to do? Well, the AJC had a great idea! They revised the 1939 number by adding 1 million Jews.

895,029 to be precise. So:

4,421,659 + 895,029 = 5,316,688

Bingo. The official Holocaust story goes that somewhere from 5,4 to 6 million Jews died. The number was predetermined and the AJC played along. Somehow they knew, 10 years later in 1949, that the 1938 and 1939 numbers were wrong. No mention of their source, no mention of their methodology used. They just changed the number. Poof.
Historians will tell you the added one million Jews comes from the Wannsee Conference, where the Nazis counted 11,000,000 Jews in Europe, but it is known that this number was exaggerated by roughly two million, therefore their point is moot. The additional one million are imaginary Jews, added for the sole purpose of having more Jews killed on paper. This is one of the essential bits of the lie that six million Jews died, but as we can, it couldn't possibly be six million, but 4,4 million maximum.

Now, this doesn't mean 4,4 million Jews died, because they didn't, it's just that most Jews after the war spread all over the world, took gentile names and became crypto-Jews. What's more, the AJC stopped reporting the actual number of Jews for current years, instead, they reported for two years back. Starting with 1949 when they "revised" the 1947 number, then in 1950 when they "revised" the 1948 number. They just kept "revising" the number of Jews two years back, ignoring the actual numbers. I wonder why?

Here's something interesting:

The 1933 World Almanac lists 682,400,000 Christians. The 1949 World Almanac lists 592,406,542 Christians. That's 89,993,458 less.

The Handbook of Council of Churches in the USA from 1951 lists 15,300,000 Jews."













What happened to the missing 89million + Christians
Did they go to the same place as the missing 4 - 5.3million Jews.

Guess we'll never know the real truth.

Sadly a lot of people Died.

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Re: Dorian on London Real - Knighthood
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2016, 07:20:10 PM »
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322

Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.

Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.

1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.

Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.

2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.

"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.

The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.

3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.

Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.

An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.

No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".

This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.

Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)


Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk

In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.

6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.

The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.

I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.

Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.

The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.



The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.

The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.

The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.

7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.

8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.

It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com

9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.

10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.

Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.

11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.


12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.

Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.

13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.

Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.

And so on.

14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"

Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.

You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.

15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.

Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."

16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.

17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.

18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.

19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.

20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.

I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?

And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?

Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?

According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.

Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?

Something is rotten in Denmark!

That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.









Very interesting - Plenty to take on board.
Thanks for posting.


Oh & ropo did you take note - no name calling or stupid comments.


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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2016, 12:42:43 AM »
And where is your proof that 6 million died (which is not even a big number to begin with compared with how many Europeans died)???

Ropo, you are in denial. Your world view is shattered when history as written by the victors are questioned. You are an individual that does not question anything. You except everything you are told. How did you become so gullible and naive? In your world there are no corrupt politicians (lol) even when it is clear just looking around you that there is corruption everywhere. In your world there are no conspiracies - humans simply do not conspire against other humans. Not sure how you can explain that though because then there would be no crime in the world if there were no conspiracies. There would be no wars.

Do you know the definition of a conspiracy? We already know by now you did not know the definition of diameter so I am just checking.

If anyone on Getbig is a moron / fool it is you, you dumb old fuck!

Why don't you answer that simple question? I know that you can flood this thread with nonsense and bullshit, but why I also know that you can't answer my questions? Because in the reality, you don't know fuck about the matter. You are just an imbecile whose knowledge is based on copying futile crap from the foil hat sites. What I am teaching here to you morons is the fact that it is ridiculously easy make the questions you cannot answer. Let me repeate:

1. If it wasn't for mass destruction, why the concentration camps all over the Europe? What need there were to get all the jews in these camps, so great that nazis used insane amount of resources to make it happen at the middle of the war? Nazis used insane amount of resources to build these camps, but why?

2.how this concentration camp etc. vacation facility for jews would be possible without jews all the way co operation with the Nazis, and what would be motivation for the nazis to do that? "Have fun, eat, drink and fuck in the camps while we fight in the war, and afterwards you can blame us to kill millions of your people"?

Are these questions too hard to answer? Of course they are, because there isn't anything what you could copy form the foil hat morons. You have to think with your so called "own brains" and that is too difficult for you.

By the holohoax theory, there isn't any prove that there were 6 million jews who got killed. So how this works in real life? You just point to the empty courtyard and tell everybody that there were 6 million jews just seconds ago, but they all disappeared? In fact there is tons of evidence about these jews, but you morons just refused to believe these facts. Holocaust is one of the most definitely proved happening in the human history and mostly because nazis themselves provide the most of the evidence. What exactly you have? You can't prove shit.

And what comes to Dorian, what make him some kind of author about the matter? Nothing. Instead of getting education, he spend his teenage in juvenile prison. Before his bodybuilding career, he was nothing, so did the bodybuilding make him an expert about holocaust? He is just another foil hat who talks futile crap without thinking at all.

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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2016, 12:49:38 AM »
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1322

Here are some of the arguments against the claim that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.

Common sense: if we had not all been hypnotised or intimidated into committing the logical fallacy of argument from authority. No proof has even been given that 6 million were murdered.

1:Butz’s argument: At the end of the war they were still there.

Douglas reed also mentions this in his book "Far and wide". The United Nations figure for Jewish world population given in 1947 was the same as that given by the League of Nations in 1938.So not that many Jews died in the war, not millions anyway.

2:Most people can’t understand that the media is not their friend, and has lied to them. They give an ostrich response and are neither intelligent enough nor brave enough to face the world without comforting fantasies. www.ussliberty.org : one of the most brazen examples of media cover-up. www.ukar.org : plenty of others.

"If some know-it-all tries to expose you, the others will not listen to him and will condemn him, because by exposing you he is proving them guilty of stupidity, and the crowd will not forgive this." From a text published in Tel Aviv in 1958.

The Media lied in WW1 and the British apologised afterwards.

3:People can’t understand how so many eyewitnesses can lie, they have seen the television programmes.

Well until 1960 the holocaust lobby said there were death camps all over Western Europe and there were plenty of witnesses to that, e.g. Dr blaha at Nuremberg. Then gas chambers were quietly dropped except at those camps where the commies could keep scrutiny out.

An Orwellian rewriting of History was effected and all our university Historians and Media swallowed it like the whores they are.

No evidence was given for this change, just one letter by martin brozstat in der zeit. A good article on this can be found at www.faem.com by Major Stano called "House of Orwell".

This is an argument I have found effective with some people if I can keep their attention on it. Too often people are intimidated by political correctness. Totem and taboo, these born slaves are genetically stuck down in Plato’s cave.

Another example of the brazen orwelling of history is the change of the plaque at Auschwitz. (See my leaflet for the before an after photos)


Jews complained about a holocaust in 1919! "Six million men and women are dying ... eight hundred thousand children cry for bread. And this fate is upon them through no fault of their own, ... but through the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life ..." --The American Hebrew (New York, issue 582 of October 31, 1919) The Talmud also has atrocity claims which demonstrate the Jewish mentality: Gittin 57b claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.

4:Basic laws of chemistry and physics preclude Holocaust from having happened. Leucter etc .No Cyanide traces in alleged gas chambers. The establishment in Germany recently conceded this point see www.fpp.co.uk

In a sane society people would not have to disprove what common sense should be enough to tell you. The biggest psychological barrier people have to cross is the realisation that their society really is that corrupt, not anything to do with the holocaust story itself, which is really far fetched.

6: Revisionists have been imprisoned .If the holocaust was true it would be possible to have an open debate as those with the truth have nothing to fear from debate.

The lack of debate is indicative of a religious dogma, liberalism becoming a religion because of the power of the media to control info.

I heard one guy one the BBC saying most people thought the Germans who were massacred "got what they deserved", this attitude is a result of holocaust propaganda.

Revisionists are often accused of being Nazis by people as a circular logic propaganda trick and to the extent that some propagandised members of the public just assume this as almost a reflex. But surely if the Holocaust happened then maybe today neo-nazis would ignore it or blame it on one person like the left blames all its sins on Stalin. Denial of facts is very much a characteristic of the atavistic enemies of western civilisation, like those who tell us that race doesn't exist etc. The media doesn't even have to deny allied war crimes; it just doesn't bother to mention them.

The media has started generating prop to cover this point. I saw a programme with Irish journalist Fergal Keane on how the Turks deny the Armenian Genocide, and the comparison has also been made in responses from academics to me.



The three mass murders Trotsky (Jewish: real name bronstein), Lenin (I have seen many accounts of his ancestry) and Kaganovich (Jewish) are rarely mentioned in the controlled media.

The Brits put up a statue to bomber Harris who burned plenty of civilians. You see the Germans deserved it.

The fact that the media in the west suppressed information about the Jewishness of communism in the USSR was actually a causal factor of WW2.The holocaust is the tip of the iceberg of suppressed xxth century history.

7:The state of Israel would not exist if the holocaust had happened. World Jewry would have been too weakened.

8:The falsification of documents by the allies. Most people haven’t examined Nuremberg proceedings.

It takes about 5 minutes of reading the Nuremberg documents to realise that the holocaust is a hoax www.cwporter.com

9:Use of torture by allies in ‘War crimes trials’, commented upon by Senator McCarthy. Witch trial methods same methods proving similar impossibilities.

10:British letters by British ministry of Information, statements by Sefton Delmer.

Anyone Reading these would understand the politics involved and why the hoax was necessary for the allies.

11:Falsification of Photos and their use in books and television programmes. For example Spielberg’s survivor programme used false photos exposed by Udo Walendy to prop up weak survivor testimony.www.ukar.org has good article on this.


12:Violation of Occam’s razor, again and again. See Jurgen Graf’s demolition of Hilberg’s book.

Absurd rationalisations needed, Germans supposed to speak in code, when allies spoke bluntly of mass murder of Germans.

13:Quoting a few of the eyewitnesses is a good persuader, and don’t let the audience rationalise the examples away, for example the witnesses Hilberg uses in his ‘definitive’ book.

Elie Wiesel (who was given Nobel Prize) supposedly in Auschwitz but he never saw as chambers. Muller and bucket of jumping human flesh, lengyal and human sausages. Friedman in Zundel trial and colour-coded smoke by country of origin. Wiesel's geysers of blood.

And so on.

14:Red cross report from 1948 spoke of 300,000 deaths in camps mainly of disease, so holocaust not possible. Vatican also did not support allied genocide claims. Butz’s elephant in my basement argument. " I do not see an elephant in my basement, an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement, therefore there is no elephant in my basement"

Circular logic prop is used to try to shore up this leak, for example the various books making out the pope was a bit of a nazi, websites on clerofascism etc. people are so browbeaten by the orthodox consensus coming from all media and public figures that you see an orwellian crimestop reflex and people don't even stop to think about the absurdity of the claims because all dissent is so totally suppressed. Even the Internet is getting increasingly censored as the Jews work away at destroying this last refuge of free thought.

You get an exponential run away effect of absurdity just like with a religion where no part of the myth can be open to question.

15: The dropping of early absurdities such as steam chambers and electrocution platforms. This is not History but propaganda.

Famous Pravda article on Auschwitz."Last year, when the Red Army revealed to the world the terrible and abominable secrets of Majdanek, the Germans in Auschwitz began to wipe out the traces of their crimes. They leveled the mounds of the so-called "old" graves in the Eastern part of the camp, tore up and destroyed the traces of the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted, their bodies falling onto the slow moving conveyor belt which carried them to the top of the blast furnace where they fell in, were completely burned, their bones converted to meal in the rolling mills, and then sent to the surrounding fields. In retreat were taken the special transportable apparatuses for killing children. The stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp were restructured; even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages. But even so one can see the traces of the murder of millions of people! From the stories of prisoners, liberated by the Red Army, it is not difficult to make out all that the Germans tried so carefully to conceal. This gigantic industrial plant of death was equipped with the last word in fascist technology and was furnished with all of the instruments of torture which the German monsters could devise."

16:Obvious Zionist need for the holocaust, though as most people are politically retarded this will go over their heads.

17:Need of entrenched oligarchies for the Hoax. False democracy possible, opposition is tabooed out of existence.

18:No budget, plan or order documentation for any genocide.

19:All the eyewitnesses who testify that there were no gas chambers or genocide are ignored or even imprisoned.

20: Much bigger crimes (and ones that actually occurred at that) are ignored, so there is something odd about the holocaust. The Holocaust lobby shot themselves in the foot, inadvertently damning themselves with overemphasis.

I remember as a child resenting that my history book called the killing of 6 million Jews ‘the most terrible crime in history’. Why would it be? Are Jewish lives worth more or something?

And if we are westerners why should we give a damn?

Are we too gentle to survive in a harsh world?

According to Dagobert Rune Hip Hip Hurray comes from a Roman toast celebrating the fall of Jerusalem.

Why 500 films about the holocaust and none (or none that I'm aware of) about the gulags?

Something is rotten in Denmark!

That the fantastical 6 million are treated as if they were 200 million should trigger some awareness on some level.

"Its common sense" should never be used to try and prove your point in an argument.

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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2016, 01:30:27 AM »
Wiesel

Apparently, in his book, Wiesel claims that when the Russian's were about to liberate the camp and the German's were fleeing, the German's offered him and his father the option to stay and wait for the Russians or go back with them towards Germany, and they chose to remain with the Germans.

This alone shows him to be a liar of mammoth proportions.  Because no one in their right mind would have stayed with the people who were going to kill them in a DEATH CAMP.
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« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2016, 02:25:08 AM »
On a side note, I once talked to an old man in Italy who lived through World War II.

He said that when Allied planes were shot down, the Germans would immediately search for the pilots, because otherwise the civilians would kill them.

Also, allied fighter-planes would target civilians with machine fire, randomly strafing anyone done below.

Houses in civilian areas, were also strafed with machine gun fire.

Of course, they also deliberately bombed civilian areas.

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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2016, 02:29:48 AM »
Interesting telling of WW 1 and 2 by a Jew.

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« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2016, 02:34:12 AM »
Here's a simple fact checking.
Starving was a daily basis torture in camp. I read books about goulag for example ppl got 300gr of bread e.d. A regular prisonnier weighed 100lbs. When russian and yankee arrived at concentration camp, german guard have already left for weeks. prisonnier in camp were already starved for month. At the end no food was supplied to the camp for weeks too because there was no food alvailable in Germany. In fact nobody got food in Europa. So cut the food to a 100lbs ppl and see what happen. So the picture showing moutain of skinny corps showed prisonnier camp died of starvation because there was no more administration in these camp. It was war, my ancestry got to eat motor engine oil soup, but they were not jew.
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2016, 02:50:06 AM »
Sir Dorian will always be a Knight of the highest degree to everyone in the bodybuilding-scene, so why bother about the Royals?


He is already more royal than them.
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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2016, 03:15:00 AM »
Here's a simple fact checking.
Starving was a daily basis torture in camp. I read books about goulag for example ppl got 300gr of bread e.d. A regular prisonnier weighed 100lbs. When russian and yankee arrived at concentration camp, german guard have already left for weeks. prisonnier in camp were already starved for month. At the end no food was supplied to the camp for weeks too because there was no food alvailable in Germany. In fact nobody got food in Europa. So cut the food to a 100lbs ppl and see what happen. So the picture showing moutain of skinny corps showed prisonnier camp died of starvation because there was no more administration in these camp. It was war, my ancestry got to eat motor engine oil soup, but they were not jew.


Can't be bothered to find evidence right now, but it has been documented (see my earlier post from Israeli newspaper) that Jews ran Russian Gulag system.  And it has also been documented that Germans gave Jews and other camp detainees MORE calories than Russians gave gulag prisoners.
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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2016, 01:57:05 PM »
I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X

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« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2016, 12:31:18 AM »
I truly hate all these stupid holocaust deniers.....they should leave getbig now, or be thrown out by mods, But mods don't do nothing the last couple years. We need new mods over here...... :-X :-X :-X :-X

Fuck off Dr Fudge.  Truth hurts your brain, so you cry like a fagg0t.  I bet the women in your family were fucking the NAZI soldiers when they occupied Fagland Netherlands.
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