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« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2017, 10:42:59 AM »

A passive investor, investing in low cost index funds, over a long period of time, has nothing to worry about.  In fact, these investors eventually benefit greatly from a crash.

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« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2017, 10:56:46 AM »

A passive investor, investing in low cost index funds, over a long period of time, has nothing to worry about.  In fact, these investors eventually benefit greatly from a crash.


Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.
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« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2017, 11:22:37 AM »


Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.

I really hope you're just trolling.  I am not going to debate you on this, not worth it.  If you are not trolling, I hope you wake up, before it's too late for you.

This is for other Getbiggers reading this.

Passive Investing: The Evidence the Fund Management Industry Would Prefer You Not to See
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqa-jSuXmYw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqa-jSuXmYw</a>



Warren Buffett, letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, 1996
"Most investors, both institutional and individual, will find that the best way
to own common stocks is through an index fund that charges minimal fees."
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1996.html



Warren Buffett’s 15-Minute Retirement Plan
If Warren Buffett weren't the world's best stock picker, how would he plan for retirement?

Luckily for the rest of us, he's answered this question before. In an annual letter to shareholders, Buffett laid out a retirement plan that would take just minutes to implement. This is the very two-pronged plan he outlined for governing the trust he's leaving behind for his wife:

My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard's. (NASDAQMUTFUND:VFINX)) I believe the trust's long-term results from this policy will be superior to those attained by most investors -- whether pension funds, institutions, or individuals -- who employ high-fee managers.

Buffett suggests the Vanguard S&P 500 index as one of the best funds for investing in U.S. stocks. A good fund for short-term government bonds can be found under the same roof. The Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund (NASDAQMUTFUND:VSBSX) should fit investors just fine for this purpose.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/06/warren-buffetts-15-minute-retirement-plan.aspx

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund Admiral Shares (VSBSX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1942&FundIntExt=INT


eBook: If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly
by William J Bernstein
$0.99

http://www.amazon.com/If-You-Can-Millennials-Slowly-ebook/dp/B00JCC5JKI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408805650&sr=1-1&keywords=if+you+can

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0585&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBTLX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0584&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0569&FundIntExt=INT


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« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2017, 02:53:08 PM »

I love guys like you.  So does my portfolio.  The fact there are so many of you tin foil hat-wearing chicken littles out there ensures that my decision to embrace the investing philosophy of Jack Bogle will continue to pay great dividends.  Buy more gold!


Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.
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« Reply #79 on: October 19, 2017, 03:44:43 PM »

I really hope you're just trolling.  I am not going to debate you on this, not worth it.  If you are not trolling, I hope you wake up, before it's too late for you.

This is for other Getbiggers reading this.

Passive Investing: The Evidence the Fund Management Industry Would Prefer You Not to See
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqa-jSuXmYw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqa-jSuXmYw</a>



Warren Buffett, letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, 1996
"Most investors, both institutional and individual, will find that the best way
to own common stocks is through an index fund that charges minimal fees."
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1996.html



Warren Buffett’s 15-Minute Retirement Plan
If Warren Buffett weren't the world's best stock picker, how would he plan for retirement?

Luckily for the rest of us, he's answered this question before. In an annual letter to shareholders, Buffett laid out a retirement plan that would take just minutes to implement. This is the very two-pronged plan he outlined for governing the trust he's leaving behind for his wife:

My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard's. (NASDAQMUTFUND:VFINX)) I believe the trust's long-term results from this policy will be superior to those attained by most investors -- whether pension funds, institutions, or individuals -- who employ high-fee managers.

Buffett suggests the Vanguard S&P 500 index as one of the best funds for investing in U.S. stocks. A good fund for short-term government bonds can be found under the same roof. The Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund (NASDAQMUTFUND:VSBSX) should fit investors just fine for this purpose.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/06/warren-buffetts-15-minute-retirement-plan.aspx

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund Admiral Shares (VSBSX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1942&FundIntExt=INT


eBook: If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly
by William J Bernstein
$0.99

http://www.amazon.com/If-You-Can-Millennials-Slowly-ebook/dp/B00JCC5JKI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408805650&sr=1-1&keywords=if+you+can

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0585&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBTLX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0584&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0569&FundIntExt=INT

I'm a big fan of index funds. Own a couple Schwab funds, no buying fees and low management fees.

Excellent choice for someone who doesn't know much about investing.
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« Reply #80 on: October 20, 2017, 11:02:07 AM »

www.cnbc.com


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« Reply #81 on: October 20, 2017, 12:40:00 PM »


LOL

"Markets are jumping as GE bounces back and hopes rise for tax reform"

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« Reply #82 on: October 20, 2017, 01:30:52 PM »

LOL

"Markets are jumping as GE bounces back and hopes rise for tax reform"



What happened to Mons Venus?  El Profeta did you scare him away?    Cheesy
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« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2017, 02:05:57 PM »

What happened to Mons Venus?  El Profeta did you scare him away?    Cheesy

LOL...he's with 240 is Back and BayGBM drowning his sorrows with them.   Smiley
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« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2017, 02:14:22 PM »

LOL...he's with 240 is Back and BayGBM drowning his sorrows with them.   Smiley

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« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2017, 12:22:58 PM »



As America approaches the one-year anniversary of the election of Donald Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is on target to book its best annual performance under a first-term president when measured from Election Day.
The Dow is up by around 29 percent since Trump’s November 8 election victory over Hillary Clinton. That’s the best post-election, one-year performance for a first-term president since Franklin Roosevelt’s in 1932.

The Trump stock market easily beats the first years of his recent predecessors. The election of Barack Obama in 2008 was followed by rise of just 1.8 percent. The stock market declined after George W. Bush’s election in 2000.

Stocks declined after the elections of 1980, 1976, and 1968.

The 1960 election of John F. Kennedy was followed by a nearly 20 percent rise in the stock market. George H.W. Bush’s election led to a rise in the Dow of 23.3 percent. Smaller gains followed the elections of 1948 and 1952.

Roosevelt’s rally, which saw the Dow rise by more than 50 percent, has never been surpassed.

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« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2017, 12:29:02 PM »

 Grin

Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.
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