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Re: President Trump
« Reply #375 on: December 18, 2016, 05:57:02 PM »
That's the point, non stop "reports" that claim something with no evidence presented. The Electors will not get a security briefing, why? CIA decides not to send anyone to congress for the security briefing on this, why? Wikileaks who put the information out there say it was not hacked, but leaked to them. What could they have to gain by lying and protecting Russia?

If everything is as it looks (but who knows what will happen as it goes) I'd say this is a sign that they've got zilch and they're trying to milk mileage from it, OR they're trying to use their Fake News operation to create a fake stand.  Either way, the goal is to make it seem Trump isn't legit CiC.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #376 on: December 18, 2016, 06:10:29 PM »
For one thing, if the new timeline is true, why is it only now that Obama "vows retaliation"?

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #377 on: December 18, 2016, 06:16:04 PM »
For one thing, if the new timeline is true, why is it only now that Obama "vows retaliation"?

Good question, whats the end game?
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #378 on: December 18, 2016, 06:18:05 PM »
McCain: Russian election-related hacks threaten to 'destroy democracy'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain said Russian election-related hacks threaten to "destroy democracy" and faulted the American response as "totally paralyzed."
 
McCain, the Arizona Republican who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, again called for a select committee to investigate the CIA's finding that Russia hacked Democrats' emails in a bid to help President-elect Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton.
 
"This is the sign of a possible unraveling of the world order that was established after World War II, which has made one of the most peaceful periods in the history of the world," McCain told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union." "We're starting to see the strains and the unraveling of it, and that is because of the absolute failure of American leadership."
 
"When America doesn't lead, a lot of other bad people do," he added.
 
McCain's calls so far have been rejected by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan, who have backed investigations but said they want to see them conducted through already-existing Senate and House committees.
 
"This is serious business. If they're able to harm the electoral process, they may destroy democracy, which is based on free and fair elections," he said.
 
McCain further ratcheted up pressure on McConnell Sunday, sending a letter to the majority leader asking him to allow for a Senate select committee to probe Russian hacking.
 
More: http://www.newschannel5.com/news/national/mccain-russian-election-related-hacks-threaten-to-destroy-democracy

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #379 on: December 18, 2016, 06:25:22 PM »
Good question, whats the end game?

Speaking of good questions.  IMO, we'd need to know how 'real' Trump will turn out to be, to determine it.  I really don't know, except to say he was our only choice.

But if you figure the prevailing media is out to get him (and IT IS, trust me... I've learned that big-fucking-time by researching for this thread) then it says volumes.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #380 on: December 18, 2016, 06:25:34 PM »
Funny, but what was in those emails is what threatens to destroy democracy.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #381 on: December 18, 2016, 06:26:08 PM »
so is it Russian Fake News or Fake Russian News that caused Hillary to lose?
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #382 on: December 18, 2016, 06:28:55 PM »
Speaking of good questions.  IMO, we'd need to know how 'real' Trump will turn out to be, to determine it.  I really don't know, except to say he was our only choice.

But if you figure the prevailing media is out to get him (and IT IS, trust me... I've learned that big-fucking-time by researching for this thread) then it says volumes.


They are just scared that they are loosing their grip on how information is disseminated to the American public
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #383 on: December 18, 2016, 07:19:29 PM »
so is it Russian Fake News or Fake Russian News that caused Hillary to lose?

Lmao.. good point.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #384 on: December 18, 2016, 07:22:35 PM »

They are just scared that they are loosing their grip on how information is disseminated to the American public

That's a concern for them, definitely.  IMO a lot of what we see in anti-freedom pushes toward the internet are based around that: control of information and the fear of losing it.

One tactic used is to make a flood of sites to dominate a certain area of thought (not hard when your partner is Google).  Then copycat sites develop around that information and it becomes "truth" to most people.

They're safe with that scheme atm imo, but it won't be possible for them to keep away nearly 100% risk of control-loss forever without taking certain measures.  You're right, they are scared -- unfortunately, though, they've got the upper hand with our wonderful politicians.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #385 on: December 19, 2016, 05:28:52 AM »


Clinton advisers point fingers at Huma Abedin, inner circle for loss

While many of Hillary Clinton’s top advisers have focused their post-presidential election fury on blaming alleged Russian interference and FBI Director James Comey for Clinton’s loss, some in the so-called “Hillaryland” orbit are looking inward, including pointing fingers at Clinton’s most-trusted aide: Huma Abedin.

“The real anger is toward Hillary’s inner circle,” a Clinton insider told Vanity Fair for a Wednesday feature on Abedin. “They reinforced all the bad habits.”

One of the most important people in that “inner circle” was Abedin, 40, who has been by Clinton’s side since she was a White House intern during President Bill Clinton’s tenure. The email trove hacked from Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta and posted on WikiLeaks shows Abedin, the estranged wife of disgraced ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner, as an important resource for the campaign. The vice chair of the Clinton campaign, Abedin offered guidance on Clinton’s probable thoughts regarding upcoming events, meetings and calls before the requests ever made it to the Democratic presidential candidate. While her fingerprints don’t often appear on policy issues, she weighed in with authority on most other matters.

MORE NEWS: ABEDIN CLAIMS SHE NEVER RECEIVED FBI WARRANT: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/15/abedin-claims-never-received-fbi-warrant-for-weiner-emails.html

Clinton was known to keep an extremely small and tight-knit group around her, and, indeed, during the 2016 primary and presidential campaign, the core group – including Campaign Manager Robbie Mook, Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, adviser Cheryl Mills, Podesta and Abedin – never changed.

One Clinton insider, however, said the closeness of that group also created problems, prompting dismissive answers when new ideas that originated outside the circle were suggested, Vanity Fair reported.

“Where in most presidential campaigns the circle grows broader and broader, hers grew smaller and smaller,” a source told Vanity Fair.

A spokesperson for the Clinton campaign disputed that notion to Vanity Fair and said the campaign’s plane seated up to three times as many people during the run-up to the November vote. Abedin declined to be interviewed for the feature.

Abedin’s proximity to Clinton – and in turn the limelight – also created another issue, according to some observers.

“She was enjoying the red carpet and enjoying the photo spreads much too much in my opinion,” one Clinton insider told Vanity Fair. “She enjoyed being a celebrity too much.”

Though Abedin’s next move seems to be in limbo now that Clinton’s political career appears to be over, she was recently spotted at Clinton’s “Thank You” holiday party for top-tier donors on Thursday and then at an after party with fellow attendees Mick Jagger and Reese Witherspoon, The New York Post reported.

“Maybe I’m just p----- off, but I really don’t give a s--- about what happens to Huma to be honest with you,” one close adviser to Clinton told Vanity Fair.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #386 on: December 19, 2016, 05:39:00 AM »
I really can't blame him under these circumstances.  He should have people he trusts 100% to watch after him and his operation.  He'd be crazy not to, especially when he has good reason to believe so many cruds are out to get him.



Trump private security force ‘playing with fire’

GRAND RAPIDS, Michigan — President-elect Donald Trump has continued employing a private security and intelligence team at his victory rallies, and he is expected to keep at least some members of the team after he becomes president, according to people familiar with the plans.

The arrangement represents a major break from tradition. All modern presidents and presidents-elect have entrusted their personal security entirely to the Secret Service, and their event security mostly to local law enforcement, according to presidential security experts and Secret Service sources.

But Trump — who puts a premium on loyalty and has demonstrated great interest in having forceful security at his events — has opted to maintain an aggressive and unprecedented private security force, led by Keith Schiller, a retired New York City cop and Navy veteran who started working for Trump in 1999 as a part-time bodyguard, eventually rising to become his head of security.

Security officials warn that employing private security personnel heightens risks for the president-elect and his team, as well as for protesters, dozens of whom have alleged racial profiling, undue force or aggression at the hands Trump’s security, with at least 10 joining a trio of lawsuits now pending against Trump, his campaign or its security.

“It’s playing with fire,” said Jonathan Wackrow, a former Secret Service agent who worked on President Barack Obama’s protective detail during his 2012 reelection campaign. Having a private security team working events with Secret Service “increases the Service’s liability, it creates greater confusion and it creates greater risk,” Wackrow said.

“You never want to comingle a police function with a private security function,” he said, adding, “If you talk to the guys on the detail and the guys who are running the rallies, that’s been a little bit difficult because it’s so abnormal.”

Wackrow, who left the Service in 2014 and is now executive director of a security company called RANE (short for Risk Assistance Network + Exchange), said if he were the lead agent at a Trump rally, “I wouldn’t allow it.” But he suggested it’s a tricky situation for the Service. “What are they going to do: pick a fight with the president-elect and his advisers? That’s not a way to start a romance.”

Several past presidential nominees have used private security or, in the case of governors running for president, state police details. But the experts could not think of another example of a president-elect continuing with any private security after Election Day, when Secret Service protection expands dramatically for the winner. In fact, most candidates drop any outside security the moment they’re granted Secret Service protection.

Trump’s spending on private security, on the other hand, actually increased after he was granted Secret Service protection in November 2015.

More: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-security-force-232797

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #387 on: December 19, 2016, 07:40:52 AM »
Be angry with yourself, Clinton.  You set it up and the plan backfired.



Bill Clinton bashes Trump, blames 'angry white men' and Comey for wife's loss

December 19, 2016 (FOX)

Former President Bill Clinton mocked President-elect Donald Trump’s intelligence, said “angry, white men” helped secure his victory and blamed FBI Director James Comey for Hillary Clinton’s November defeat during a spontaneous Q-and-A at a New York bookstore earlier this month.

An unidentified editor at the Bedford-Pound Ridge Record Review happened to be present at the impromptu session and revealed the details in an editorial in the paper’s print edition. The editorial did not appear online but the contents were reported by Politico.

“He doesn’t know much,” Clinton said when asked if Trump was smart. “One thing he does know is how to get angry, white men to vote for him.”

Clinton placed the blame for his wife’s defeat squarely at the feet of Comey, who announced 11 days before the election that the FBI was reviewing newly discovered emails for any ties to the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s secret server. Comey told Congress two days before the election the FBI didn’t find any new evidence.

“James Comey cost her the election,” Clinton said during the lengthy discussion.

Clinton also said he believed the allegations that Russia was responsible for a series of pre-election hacks that revealed embarrassing – and politically damaging – acts by some prominent Democrats associated with Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“You would need to have a single-digit IQ not to recognize what was going on,” Clinton said.

He also disputed that Trump won in a landslide, with a likely 306 electoral vote tally.

“Landslide?” Clinton asked. “I got something like 370 electoral votes. That was a landslide.” (Clinton earned exactly 370 electoral votes during his 1992 presidential election win).

Clinton said Trump called him the day after the election and, the Record Review editor wrote, Clinton appeared “incredulous” about Trump's cordial tone so soon after the contentious 2016 campaign.

“Like it was 15 years ago,” Clinton said.

Trump reportedly told Clinton his wife “was tougher than I thought she’d be.”

Asked if President Obama should make a recess appointment of Hillary Clinton to the Supreme Court, Clinton said he didn’t think the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee would “want” the gig.

The Man from Hope apparently offered little optimism, telling the crowd they were living in a “post-truth era where facts don’t matter.”

One woman reportedly told Clinton her 6-year-old child has asked to go to sleep for four years when he found out Trump won.

“No, we can’t go to sleep,” Clinton said. “We need to stay active."

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #388 on: December 19, 2016, 07:58:07 AM »
Dow possibly will exceed 20-thousand, later today.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #389 on: December 19, 2016, 08:07:00 AM »
One woman reportedly told Clinton her 6-year-old child has asked to go to sleep for four years when he found out Trump won.

 ::)  Some brain-dead soccer mom inventing something she wished her six year old child had asked.  Pathetic whore.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #390 on: December 19, 2016, 08:18:51 AM »
::)  Some brain-dead soccer mom inventing something she wished her six year old child had asked.  Pathetic whore.

Lmao.  Exactly.

And even IF the child thought to ask it: WHERE did the idea come from, if not from the mom and dad (but probably single mom living under total delusion, let's face it).

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #391 on: December 19, 2016, 08:47:09 AM »


'Flattered' Stallone signals he would not take Trump arts job

Sylvester Stallone has said he was flattered by the possibility of working in Donald Trump's incoming administration – but he is not interested.

The Rocky and Rambo star said in a statement carried by US media that he would rather help military veterans.

The Daily Mail reported last week that Stallone had been approached about a possible top arts-related position in the Trump administration, possibly as head of the National Endowment for the Arts.

The New York Times quoted Mr Trump's advisers as saying no formal offer had been put forth, though "overtures" had been made.

"I am incredibly flattered to have been suggested to be involved with the National Endowment of the Arts," the statement by Stallone said, according to the New York Times, Variety and others.


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"However I believe I could be more effective by bringing national attention to returning military personnel in an effort to find gainful employment, suitable housing and financial assistance these heroes respectfully deserve."

The 70-year-old actor did not elaborate how he would be involved trying to help the veterans.

The National Endowment for Arts is an independent federal agency that offers support and funding for projects in the art.

Stallone said in an interview at the start of the year that he considered following Arnold Schwarzenegger's footsteps and entering politics, but the idea was short-lived.


Trump with Kanye West, Last Week

Asked about Mr Trump, then a front runner for the Republican nomination, he told Variety: "I love Donald Trump.

"He's a great Dickensian character. You know what I mean? There are certain people like Arnold, Babe Ruth, that are bigger than life.

"But I don't know how that translates to running the world."

Mr Trump has been working on his transition from his headquarters in Trump Tower.

He has recently met with other celebrities, including Leonardo DiCaprio and Kanye West.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #392 on: December 19, 2016, 09:32:53 AM »
Keep in mind, they take themselves 100% seriously.  This is not meant as a joke.  They encourage one another to play "victim" and next thing you know, we have a large culture of screwed-up halfwits too weak to think.  GTFO.  You're doing this on purpose, MSM.



Just How Safe Will We Be in Donald Trump’s America?

By Ellen Litman

The day after the Election I was supposed to give a reading at a small private college. Normally I enjoy giving readings, and I’d been looking forward to this one. But on that particular morning, I didn’t want to leave the house. I didn’t want to face a world that was, apparently, so full of hate, blame and fear.

More?  http://forward.com/culture/355844/just-how-safe-will-we-be-in-donald-trumps-america/

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #393 on: December 19, 2016, 09:53:07 AM »
"I find myself rushing home and triple bolt locking the door. Terrified of the hateful, dangerous world that awaits me outside"

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #394 on: December 19, 2016, 10:03:05 AM »
^ There's still room in Aleppo if the bitch needs to be reminded what is dangerous.
I bet she would enjoy the lovely muzzies who are not dangerous and primitive like white males.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #395 on: December 19, 2016, 10:14:25 AM »
Could be a GBer (serious) or a close relative behind this from 10 years ago.  Isn't the GBer "Hero Envy" guy (can't think of GB handle atm) a comics-producer named Cimino?



(Fusion) Around 2006, Donald Trump was enjoying a run as the namesake of Trump Magazine— a publication that had begun primarily as a marketing vehicle to be distributed at his properties, but had come to be distributed on newsstands nationally. The magazine celebrated Trump’s “opulence and business savvy,” according to press releases. Covers featured Trump, his kids, or Trump and his kids. Articles highlighted other Trump-branded ventures, like Trump Vodka, and profiled comedians and TV hosts.

But the short-lived magazine almost birthed another Trump-branded venture: a TV cartoon for kids, starring The Donald as a wrong-righting, crusading superhero.



The catalyst for that idea was Mitchell Schultz, a former New Yorker who is now a “space tourism consultant” in Florida. Schultz tells Fusion he knew Trump Magazine’s publisher, Michael Jacobson, and had met Trump at a party through their mutual friend. Schultz remembers telling Jacobson that “the way to create immortality for Donald Trump is through the youth of America.” (Jacobson did not respond to requests for comment.)

Schultz imagined a show tentatively called Trump Takeover. Plotlines—which Schultz developed with the help of a writer friend, Louis Cimino—were prescient. They imagined an episode in which America would be “in a state of virtual collapse,” according to draft materials for the show.



Trump and his team—including characters from The Apprentice—would “go to Washington to take over!” In another episode, Trump and team would seize control of the stock market to save the world:



Save it from what? “A global financial conspiracy,” according to the show notes:



“We wrote some stories—’SuperTrump,’ that kind of thing,” Cimino recalls. “I wrote the stories—‘[Trump] solves the gang problem in New York and fights the aliens,’ stuff like that. I just remember the gist. He saves the city; he saves the Yankees. I wrote whole episodes with the dialogue.” Cimino says he “did it as a goof. I did it for fun.”





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Re: President Trump
« Reply #396 on: December 19, 2016, 11:00:54 AM »
So we are just supposed to take their word for it then? Nah, I wanna see the intel

I doubt you or anyone else in the general public will see the "intel".

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #397 on: December 19, 2016, 11:11:05 AM »
I doubt you or anyone else in the general public will see the "intel".

Why?
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #398 on: December 19, 2016, 06:42:31 PM »
As an American citizen, I find "private, off-the-record" meetings between these particular parties to be highly offensive and suspicious.  We're the ones at the center of this, making it just an incredibly arrogant display (at the very least).  It's what what we'd expect from, say, a guy like Obama.  Not acceptable.

From earlier in thread:

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Trump's off-the-record meeting with Media: The meeting is intended to be off the record, so the public will not be informed about what is divulged.

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President-elect Donald Trump met Sunday off the record with reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, where the Trump family is spending the holidays, according to a report by The Hill.

In attendance: Trump, Melania Trump, incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus, and advisers Kellyanne Conway, Stephen Miller and Jason Miller, said The Hill, citing a presidential pool report.

The news of journalists sipping drinks and going off-the-record with Trump, who last week canceled the only news conference scheduled since his election, created quite a Twitter storm. Mike Allen, co-founder of Axios and co-founder of Politico, seems to have touched it off with this:

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Christmas @ Mar-a-Lago: @realDonaldTrump, relaxed and chatty, hosts press for drinks -- off-record but pics OK @axios pic.twitter.com/lysW7FHzIl
    
— Mike Allen (@mikeallen) December 19, 2016


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Re: President Trump
« Reply #399 on: December 19, 2016, 06:47:44 PM »
As an American citizen, I find "private, off-the-record" meetings between these particular parties to be highly offensive and suspicious.  We're the ones at the center of this, making it just an incredibly arrogant display (at the very least).  It's what what we'd expect from, say, a guy like Obama.  Not acceptable.

From earlier in thread:

AND from today:



I have to agree, the POTUS works for us, not the other way around.
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