Author Topic: neck problems (Read 3691 times)

spiro · « **on:** November 17, 2016, 09:26:58 AM »

I know we have a lot of guys on here who have neck and back issues. I have been having problems with my neck for the last few years now. It feels okay sometimes but If I do something wrong or overdo things in the gym I am in miserable pain for weeks sometimes. I'm starting to get fucking sick of it my mood is effected by it my whole quality of life has been effected by it. I had an MRI done a few months ago they said I have bulging disks c3, c4. I'm 32 years old in pretty good shape. I want to get this taken care of before it gets worse. I'm not sure where to start though. Is surgery something I should look into? I tried chiropractic and massage work for years it didn't help at all in fact I think the guy made my situation worse. After I stopped going I started to feel better. Two days ago I trained back and biceps. I went too heavy I'm not sure what I did wrong but I have been miserable last few days. It makes me want to use benzos its the only thing that seems to help. I don't want an addiction though. The rebound effect isn't worth it.

Anyone able to fix their neck problems?

Skeeter · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:30:27 AM »

I've had neck issues and found that they are related to sleep. A better mattress may help. I suggest memory foam.
A cheaper solution which would work in addition to a mattress is a memory foam pillow. I find that if I sleep without mine I risk having neck pain.

spiro · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:34:37 AM »

Quote from: Skeeter on November 17, 2016, 09:30:27 AM

I've had neck issues and found that they are related to sleep. A better mattress may help. I suggest memory foam.
A cheaper solution which would work in addition to a mattress is a memory foam pillow. I find that if I sleep without mine I risk having neck pain.

I've been through 4-5 pillows I have a couple that seem to help I probably need a new mattress.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:35:44 AM »

I took a viagra and it got stuck in my throat. I've had a stiff neck for weeks.

On a serious note. I saw a physiatrist. She recomended a few thins. One was Physical Therapy. I did it for a bit and found it to be useless. they gave some good tips. one thing bad for necks is typing on a phone or ipad. You end up crunching your body iwards to do so. The next step is a doctor that works on the fascia. She said it's super painful but he is awesome. I am going to see him next.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2016, 09:58:10 AM »

It can be a result of tightness in the area. Try to massage your traps regularly, going across the fibers, from north to south.

Skeeter · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2016, 10:01:09 AM »

Football players use neck strengthening exercises, but I don't know that will help with bulging disks.

Fallsview · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2016, 10:02:47 AM »

Quote from: Skeeter on November 17, 2016, 09:30:27 AM

I've had neck issues and found that they are related to sleep. A better mattress may help. I suggest memory foam.
A cheaper solution which would work in addition to a mattress is a memory foam pillow. I find that if I sleep without mine I risk having neck pain.

First off, If you listen to a guy like Skeeter who is also Walter Slobercock you got problems.

titusisback · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2016, 10:05:14 AM »

It could be anything. I had neck pain and I thought it would be related to my bones / discs, but after seeing a doctor and a chiropractor, I found a physiotherapist that diagnosed me properly - the issue was weak rotator cuff muscles forcing traps to take over, which made soft tissue in my neck area very stiff, which messed up a nerve in my neck (yes it was painful) which messed up my arm function (numbness, weakness). Things are not always what they seem. I would recommend finding a skilled physiotherapist. My neck pain is gone and for the first time in years, I can check my blind spot while driving without pain.

Skeeter · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2016, 10:06:45 AM »

Quote from: Fallsview on November 17, 2016, 10:02:47 AM

First off, If you listen to a guy like Skeeter who is also Walter Slobercock you got problems.

Following me around now? Thought you said that you weren't a loser.

spiro · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2016, 12:02:39 PM »

Quote from: titusisback on November 17, 2016, 10:05:14 AM

It could be anything. I had neck pain and I thought it would be related to my bones / discs, but after seeing a doctor and a chiropractor, I found a physiotherapist that diagnosed me properly - the issue was weak rotator cuff muscles forcing traps to take over, which made soft tissue in my neck area very stiff, which messed up a nerve in my neck (yes it was painful) which messed up my arm function (numbness, weakness). Things are not always what they seem. I would recommend finding a skilled physiotherapist. My neck pain is gone and for the first time in years, I can check my blind spot while driving without pain.

Good post I will look into seeing a physiotherapist.

falco · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2016, 12:05:39 PM »

Had c5c6 and c6c7 disks bursted. Ostheopatic treatment Just got it worst. Did a surgical procedure called ozonetherapy and am as good as new. Obviously no more deadlifts or standing bicep curls.
If you have no pain, avoid ALL exercises that make it worse. You might not need surgery. You just have to learn how to train around the problem. Avoid heavy weights, and go for the pump.

SilverSpoon · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2016, 12:29:32 PM »

4 way neck machine.

Strive to look like Jeff King.

All will be well.

Bulgarian_enforcer · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2016, 12:57:34 PM »

pharm gh?

Erik C · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2016, 01:04:37 PM »

Neck Traction Devices. Search.

I use one of these "neck slings" on my lat machine. Connected a chain to the sling, so that when I sit down, I'm only pulling the weight down, about an inch or so. Started with no weight, just the weight holder, and have very slowly built up from there. Part of neck pain is fighting the down pull of gravity, and strengthening the neck against gravity's down pull helps a lot of people.

obsidian · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2016, 01:56:54 PM »

Quote from: spiro on November 17, 2016, 09:26:58 AM

I know we have a lot of guys on here who have neck and back issues. I have been having problems with my neck for the last few years now. It feels okay sometimes but If I do something wrong or overdo things in the gym I am in miserable pain for weeks sometimes. I'm starting to get fucking sick of it my mood is effected by it my whole quality of life has been effected by it. I had an MRI done a few months ago they said I have bulging disks c3, c4. I'm 32 years old in pretty good shape. I want to get this taken care of before it gets worse. I'm not sure where to start though. Is surgery something I should look into? I tried chiropractic and massage work for years it didn't help at all in fact I think the guy made my situation worse. After I stopped going I started to feel better. Two days ago I trained back and biceps. I went too heavy I'm not sure what I did wrong but I have been miserable last few days. It makes me want to use benzos its the only thing that seems to help. I don't want an addiction though. The rebound effect isn't worth it.

Anyone able to fix their neck problems?

Spiro, do you:

1. Pull the bar behind your head it lat pull downs?
2. Bench on a flat surface without padding under your neck?
3. Do shoulder presses with the bar behind your neck?
4. Look around when you do upright rows, shrugs etc.?

Any of those things will fuck up your neck. I always do shoulder presses to my chest and never behind my head. Same with lat pull downs. And I place something under my neck when benching to support it. And I found it is easy to injure your neck / traps when you look around while doing the exercise. Best to look straight ahead or slightly down and maintain that till you are done.

honest · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2016, 02:17:37 PM »

Ive had disc replacement at three levels due to disc degeneration similar to Ronnie, Jay etc, at your age I doubt you have got to that level, I would at your stage avoid exercise's as other have mentioned, you obviously have a genetic disposition to this type of injury and an educated work out plan is what's needed, do single arm movements for delt and back workouts singularly, this is something I have done since being post op, it avoids putting compression on the spine from both sides, all hammer movements where possible and machine shoulder presses and side laterals one arm at a time, get massaged regularly and use anti inflams sparingly and only where really required and rest that next day, but better exercise selection is paramount to stoppiong your condition progressing

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2016, 02:55:23 PM »

We need to locate this dude. By the look of the photo it's some state penitentary. Maybe he knows Groink.

spiro · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:01:20 PM »

Thanks for all the great advises!

AbrahamG · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:05:26 PM »

cut back on the cunnilingus.

Only two ways to hurt your neck.

1. Cunnilingus.
2. Car accident.

spiro · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:17:05 PM »

Quote from: AbrahamG on November 17, 2016, 05:05:26 PM

cut back on the cunnilingus.

Only two ways to hurt your neck.

1. Cunnilingus.
2. Car accident.

Lol I did notice my neck gets sore after I go to town tounge punching my wife's fart box.

I bought one of these just now I'll ask the doctor if it's cool.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:28:24 PM »

Quote from: spiro on November 17, 2016, 05:01:20 PM

Thanks for all the great advises!

I try to have at least 1 out every 50 posts be about training

WalterWhite · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2016, 05:56:28 PM »

Quote from: honest on November 17, 2016, 02:17:37 PM

Ive had disc replacement at three levels due to disc degeneration similar to Ronnie, Jay etc, at your age I doubt you have got to that level, I would at your stage avoid exercise's as other have mentioned, you obviously have a genetic disposition to this type of injury and an educated work out plan is what's needed, do single arm movements for delt and back workouts singularly, this is something I have done since being post op, it avoids putting compression on the spine from both sides, all hammer movements where possible and machine shoulder presses and side laterals one arm at a time, get massaged regularly and use anti inflams sparingly and only where really required and rest that next day, but better exercise selection is paramount to stoppiong your condition progressing

I have been staving off surgery through training since 2011. Div 1 college football and a horrible mountain bike crash have left my cervical spine in bad condition. I have a bone spur now near my spinal cord and will eventually need surgery.

I work all spine surrounding back muscles and every part of my shoulders hard. Nothing above my head and like honest said a lot of singular exercises. I do pull downs and do them seated in reverse. I also use ropes to make sure I'm hitting all spine support muscles.

I have had four spinal injections to reduce inflammation but whats helped most is correct workouts. At one point I was losing strength in my left arm and still have numbness in two fingers but no size loss and full strength back. Oh and pharm gh won't hurt.

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #22 on:** November 17, 2016, 06:08:21 PM »

30 years of squatting is what injured my neck (C6-C7 nerve compression). I cannot squat without my manta ray and I cannot squat more than 250lbs, even with the manta ray. At 50, I really don't care about squatting super heavy anymore.

spiro · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2016, 06:08:35 PM »

I feel the core of my workouts revolves around heavy presses a lot of over head movements. Dumbell presses for chest shoulders I will have to change some of that up.

WalterWhite · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2016, 07:18:18 PM »

Quote from: Mr Anabolic on November 17, 2016, 06:08:21 PM

30 years of squatting is what injured my neck (C6-C7 nerve compression). I cannot squat without my manta ray and I cannot squat more than 250lbs, even with the manta ray. At 50, I really don't care about squatting super heavy anymore.

I am so glad I stopped going stupid heavy after I stopped competing in my 20's! I can't remember the last time I squatted and my legs look the best they ever have (in my 50's).