Trump to NY Times: I don’t want to energize the alt right and I disavow them

[Al Doggity]

After cancelling a sit down with the paper because he claimed the Times changed the terms of the sitdown (which they denied), he eventually showed up to deliver his latest rant. According to the times, when he was asked about whether or not he energized the alt-right movement, he replied  "It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why. I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group.”

Obviously, he will claim he was misquoted or change his mind within the next 24 hours, but why is this a group he's disavowing for a few convenient hours? 

He also says he doesn't feel strongly about wanting to prosecute Clinton. LBR, what he plans to do to the office will make Hillary Clinton look like a monk.

[Erik C]

More MSM shit. He should've told the NYT to go fuck themselves.

The MSM is going to be on full attack thoughout Trump's Presidency.

[Yamcha]

Not even one day in office yet...

[Thin Lizzy]

He's talking about Fringe groups: the klan, and neo-nazis, not the Breitbart alt-right.

Why would he disavow the latter and at the same time hire Steve Bannon?

Just more MSM dishonesty.

[mass243]

Not even one day in office yet...

What bullshit.



Is that crybaby implicating he moved from ussr to usa?
Why didn't he go fight in afghanistan? Because he is traitor and pussy.
Now he doesn't want to live in usa either?
Shows you what kind of people left russia. No use for anything productive. Good only in shitting their pants and mouthrunning.
Kick him out and he can settle in fucking somalia.

[Al Doggity]

He's talking about Fringe groups: the klan, and neo-nazis, not the Breitbart alt-right.

Why would he disavow the latter and at the same time hire Steve Bannon?

Just more MSM dishonesty.

  You said this just a few days ago:

The current tactic of the Left is to label the Alt-Right as a racist, nationalist movement, when, as Milo put it beautifully, it's about values and ideals.

... and then later tried to minimize the disproportionate support the altright gets from white supremacists. I'

If you are racist, fine. If you feel like there are other alt-right values that appeal to you that don't have anything to  do with race, fine. But it just has no connection to reality to pretend that the alt-right movement does not appeal to avowed, vocal, committed  racists in a way that other political ideologies  don't.

[Erik C]

But it just has no connection to reality to pretend that the alt-right movement does not appeal to avowed, vocal, committed  racists in a way that other political ideologies  don't.

Because other political ideologies are avowed, vocal, committed racists against white people, constantly discriminating against the white race, in particular straight white males.

[Howard]

I think Trump is wrongly accused of being a racist.
He seems to be about awarding the best and brightest.
In my opinion, being anti-affirmative action is often confused with being racist.

The alt-right thinks he's closer to their ideology because he has no built in favoritism .

[Thin Lizzy]

You said this just a few days ago:
... and then later tried to minimize the disproportionate support the altright gets from white supremacists. I'

If you are racist, fine. If you feel like there are other alt-right values that appeal to you that don't have anything to  do with race, fine. But it just has no connection to reality to pretend that the alt-right movement does not appeal to avowed, vocal, committed  racists in a way that other political ideologies  don't.

I minimize racists because they have no place at the table in a Trump administration or in the Republican Party. The opinions of the klan or Neo Nazis are not part of the public discourse and are mainly confined to a few corners of the Internet. To be honest, I didn't even know that racist groups have rebranded themselves as the alt-right. The first time I heard the term alt-right was from Milo. He's not exactly the poster boy for the klan, now is he?

 I don't really get hung up labels, but, if I had to pick one, it would be Libertarian not alt-right. What appeals most to me about Trump is that he's pro-business: low taxes and fewer regulations. The reason the Democratic Party has nothing to offer me is that they hate capitalism and want it replaced with a Marxist/ Socialist model.

[Howard]

I minimize racists because they have no place at the table in a Trump administration or in the Republican Party. The opinions of the klan or Neo Nazis are not part of the public discourse and are mainly confined to a few corners of the Internet. To be honest, I didn't even know that racist groups have rebranded themselves as the alt-right. The first time I heard the term alt-right was from Milo. He's not exactly the poster boy for the klan, now is he? I don't really get hung up labels, but, if I had to pick one, it would be Libertarian not alt-right.

Good post and very fair.

Unless Trump picks the Grand Wizzard of the Klan for his cabinet, I think the racist charge is silly.

[Thin Lizzy]

Good post and very fair.

Unless Trump picks the Grand Wizzard of the Klan for his cabinet, I think the racist charge is silly.

It's a game the media is playing. Trump is a racist because he didn't denounce a group, that until recently, he didn't even know existed.

I believe it was Yamcha who originally posted this. It's a good example of Dem shills trying smear Republicans:

[mazrim]

And the democrats potentially want to put Keith Ellison as their chairman and they have the nerve to call anyone racist...

[Thin Lizzy]

And the democrats potentially want to put Keith Ellison as their chairman and they have the nerve to call anyone racist...

Exactly. Both the Left and the Right have fringe elements, but the Left's have a place at the table. Which Republican Senator or Congressman would be his equivalent? There is none.

[tonymctones]

After cancelling a sit down with the paper because he claimed the Times changed the terms of the sitdown (which they denied), he eventually showed up to deliver his latest rant. According to the times, when he was asked about whether or not he energized the alt-right movement, he replied  "It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why. I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group.”

Obviously, he will claim he was misquoted or change his mind within the next 24 hours, but why is this a group he's disavowing for a few convenient hours?  

He also says he doesn't feel strongly about wanting to prosecute Clinton. LBR, what he plans to do to the office will make Hillary Clinton look like a monk.

LOL is this what the butt hurt republicans looked like when Obama first go elected?

HAHAHAH I'll tell you what I told them Albert. There is plenty of shit to not like about him, why not focus on the real and serious things?

[Thin Lizzy]

LOL is this what the butt hurt republicans looked like when Obama first go elected?

HAHAHAH I'll tell you what I told them Albert. There is plenty of shit to not like about him, why not focus on the real and serious things?

Apparently, the Dems plan to get back the white vote is to continually label them as racists/sexists/homophobes etc, and link them to racist groups with whom they have nothing in common other than skin pigmentation.

[tonymctones]

Apparently, the Dems plan to get back the white vote is to continually label them as racists/sexists/homophobes etc, and link them to racist groups with whom they have nothing in common other than skin pigmentation.

Yup they simply are doubling down on the issues that caused people to vote for trump in the first place.

[polychronopolous]

And the democrats potentially want to put Keith Ellison as their chairman and they have the nerve to call anyone racist...

Seen that guy on MSNBC. Wasn't every impressed.

Zero charisma. Zero mic skills. No real message. Seemed awkward and disingenuous. Relied on identify politics almost the entire time.

[Howard]

Apparently, the Dems plan to get back the white vote is to continually label them as racists/sexists/homophobes etc, and link them to racist groups with whom they have nothing in common other than skin pigmentation.

In recent years, the liberals gave voice and preference to these groups.
The avg citizen finally had enough and this election showed that.

I'm on the conservative side on these issues, but, I've always had doubts about Trump as a head of state.
Now, I'm cautiously optimistic and hope he does great.

[Al Doggity]

Apparently, the Dems plan to get back the white vote is to continually label them as racists/sexists/homophobes etc, and link them to racist groups with whom they have nothing in common other than skin pigmentation.

   You're trying to have it both ways. The alt right is just about nationalism and all the other stuff is just a smear tactic by the media, even though the president elect- who is clearly an alt right looney- doesn't even bother to differentiate between segments. And please don't try to tell me it's because he's afraid of being misunderstood or misquoted. And White House Chief Strategist isn't a seat at the table?? Even Glenn Beck called Bannon the new Goebbels. The funny thing is I'm not even saying the alt right movement is inherently racist. You are the one who felt the need to respond to my question to another poster and add the nonsense commentary about how the reputation of the altright was an imaginary media construct.  It's laughable the hoops you guys are jumping through trying to pretend there's not a clear connection between the alt right movement and hardcore racist movement.


That Tucker Carlson piece is absolute ridiculous trash. Carlson cherry picks lines and tries to pretend they are smear tactics. If you are writing about how someone is ideologically opposed to civil rights legislation, then it's completely reasonable to include that you are not claiming they would work to roll back civil rights legislation. If that line wasn't included then he'd be whining that the article implied Sessions was going to work to roll back civil rights legislation.
 

[Soul Crusher]

What the hell is Alt-right? 

Honestly this is another stupid nothing burger

[Thin Lizzy]

What the hell is Alt-right?  

Honestly this is another stupid nothing burger

I actually researched it a bit. Some guy named Spencer, who apparently is a white nationalist, had taken the alt-right domain name. He has a tiny following of wack jobs. I had never heard of the guy.

The media has used this as an opportunity to attach Trump supporters to a fringe group, one which none of us even knew existed until very recently. As I said, my only exposure to the alt-right was a couple of Milo YouTubes. I didn't even know who Milo was until about a year ago. The nothing burger description is spot on.

There were initially 17 Republican candidates. Not one of them identified themself as alt-right.

[Yamcha]

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[mazrim]

   You're trying to have it both ways. The alt right is just about nationalism and all the other stuff is just a smear tactic by the media, even though the president elect- who is clearly an alt right looney- doesn't even bother to differentiate between segments. And please don't try to tell me it's because he's afraid of being misunderstood or misquoted. And White House Chief Strategist isn't a seat at the table?? Even Glenn Beck called Bannon the new Goebbels. The funny thing is I'm not even saying the alt right movement is inherently racist.

Prove Trump is a looney. Not one of you racists has done that yet.

Haha, using Glenn Beck is laughable.

[Thin Lizzy]

Prove Trump is a looney. Not one of you racists has done that yet.

Haha, using Glenn Beck is laughable.

What they're doing is out the "Rules for Radicals" playbook. You keep coming up with shit to throw as a way to keep your opponent off balance and on defense. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant. It works for awhile but you eventually become "The Boy who cried Wolf." That's what happened in the Election. The media kept labeling Trump as madman, racist, sexist etc., and the public just stopped buying it.

This is essentially their only tactic. So, expect it to continue.

[Al Doggity]

I actually researched it a bit. Some guy named Spencer, who apparently is a white nationalist, had taken the alt-right domain name. He has a tiny following of wack jobs. I had never heard of the guy.

The media has used this as an opportunity to attach Trump supporters to a fringe group, one which none of us even knew existed until very recently. As I said, my only exposure to the alt-right was a couple of Milo YouTubes. I didn't even know who Milo was until about a year ago. The nothing burger description is spot on.

There were initially 17 Republican candidates. Not one of them identified themself as alt-right.

So, you've gone from defending the term against the left's evil smear jobs to just hearing somebody use it a year ago and not being sure it even exists? Steve Bannon is one of the most powerful members of the incoming administration and has defended it, supported it, given it a voice, attempted to minimize its overt racist aspects and empathized with it philosophically.