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25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
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Just a brief reminder for myself and other Christians:

25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
Fritz Chery June 18, 2015

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I hate Christians, Christians are stupid, Christians are annoying, Christians are judgmental bigots. If you are a believer living in America I know that you have heard words such as these before. The question is why do atheists hate Christians? Why are we hated by the world?

25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity

Before we find out why below, I would like to say that it doesn’t matter who you are. If you profess Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will be persecuted.

In other countries some people are dying because they don’t want to deny Christ.

If you feel bad because you have never been persecuted for your faith in Christ, don’t worry it’s coming.

Beware, there are some people who go out their way to be hated by people.

Scripture never condones this. I’ve watched videos of so-called Christians purposely provoking and being confrontational towards unbelievers.

Yes, when evangelizing we should stand firm and preach the whole truth, but there are some people who go out their way to be hated just so they can say look I’m being persecuted. These people are hated not because of Christ, but because they are fools.

It doesn’t take much for you to be hated. All you have to do is open your mouth. Some people are cowards. They will never preach against sin. They will watch people go to hell and be silent.

These are the type of people the world likes. People who say they’re Christians, but don’t rain on the wicked parade of others. The world likes people like T.D. Jakes, Joel Osteen, etc. These people condone wickedness and never talk about sin, or hell. They are friends of the world. Luke 6:26 Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
 
To be right with God has often meant to be in trouble with men. A.W. Tozer
“We aren’t called to be like other Christians; We are called to be like Christ.” -Stacy L. Sanchez
 
1. The world hates us because we are not part of the world.

John 15:19 The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world. I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people to be his very own and to proclaim the wonderful deeds of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

James 4:4 You adulterers! Don’t you know that friendship with the world means hostility with God? So whoever wants to be a friend of this world is an enemy of God.

Psalm 4:3 But understand this: the LORD has set apart the godly for himself! The LORD will hear me when I cry out to him!

2. We are hated because we follow Christ.

John 15: 18 If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first.

Matthew 10:22 And all nations will hate you because you are my followers. But everyone who endures to the end will be saved.

Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

Psalm 69:4 Those who hate me without reason outnumber the hairs of my head; many are my enemies without cause, those who seek to destroy me. I am forced to restore what I did not steal.

3. The world hates God. We remind them of the God they hate so much.

Romans 1:29-30 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy.

John 15:21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me.

John 15:25 This fulfills what is written in their Scriptures: ‘They hated me without cause.’
 

4. The darkness always hates the light.


John 3:19-21 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

Matthew 5:14-15 “You are the light of the world–like a city on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. No one lights a lamp and then puts it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on a stand, where it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your good deeds shine out for all to see, so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father.
 

5. People hate the truth.


Romans 1:18 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and wickedness of those who in their wickedness suppress the truth.

Amos 5:10 There are those who hate the one who upholds justice in court and detest the one who tells the truth.

Galatians 4:16 Have I now become your enemy because I am telling you the truth?

John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.

6. The world hates us because of our mission. Unbelievers love their self-righteousness. We have to tell people who think they’re good and have been doing the things society thinks will take them to Heaven that their good works mean nothing and their good deeds are just filthy rags. Pride is killing us. They think how dare you say I’m not good enough. How dare you call me evil. I’ve done way more good things than you. God knows my heart.

Romans 10:3 For ignoring the righteousness that comes from God, and seeking instead to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; it is not from works, so that no one can boast.
 

7. Because they believe in lies. There are so many people who don’t know the Bible, but yet they still want to debate the Bible. They harden their heart to the truth and they say things like God condones slavery, this, that, etc.


Psalm 109:2 For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me, speaking against me with lying tongues.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

8. They mistake love for hate.

I’ve seen Christians preach on homosexuality in the kindest most loving manner. They explained there is hope in Christ if the homosexual would repent and trust in Christ alone. Yet, I still saw unbelievers who said wow Christians are so hateful. I was so shocked. It did not get any more loving than this preaching. In today’s society, if you say nothing and allow someone to go to hell that is love. If you say in a loving matter that something is a sin, that is being hateful. True hate is watching someone who is on their way to eternal pain and torment and saying nothing.

Proverbs 13:24 Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

Proverbs 12:1 To learn, you must love discipline; it is stupid to hate correction.

Proverbs 27:5 An open rebuke is better than hidden love!
 

9. Because everybody else hates us and people of the world are followers. Without even getting to know Christianity people agree with others. If someone says that Christians are bigots someone will repeat that false information. They go off of what others say.


Proverbs 13:20 Whoever keeps company with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools suffers harm.

Luke 23:22-23 For the third time he spoke to them: “Why? What crime has this man committed? I have found in him no grounds for the death penalty. Therefore I will have him punished and then release him.” But with loud shouts they insistently demanded that he be crucified, and their shouts prevailed.

Exodus 23:2 “Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong. When you give testimony in a lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd,
 

10. The world thinks Christians are stupid.


1 Corinthians 1:27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

11. We are hated because of false teachers. Many people sit in churches and all they hear is love, love, love, and no repentance. When they go out and find a true believer who says sin, they say Jesus preached only about love. You’re wrong! False converts sitting under a false teacher hate real Christians.

Matthew 23:15-16 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.

12. They don’t like the true Christ. They want to keep their life. They want one foot in and one foot out.

Luke 14:27-28 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

Matthew 16:25-26 Those who want to save their lives will lose them. But those who lose their lives for me will find them. What good will it do for people to win the whole world and lose their lives? Or what will a person give in exchange for life?
 

13. They want to keep their sins and they don’t like their sins being exposed.


John 7:7 The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil.

Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them.

14. Satan has blinded the world.

2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Ephesians 2:2 that you once practiced as you lived according to the ways of this present world and according to the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now active in those who are disobedient.

15. They hate us because we are not doing evil with them. They believe that we think that we are better than non-Christians, which is not true. We’re not better, we’re just better off.

1 Peter 4:4 Of course, your former friends are surprised when you no longer plunge into the flood of wild and destructive things they do. So they slander you.

Ephesians 5:8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light

16. They hate the Bible

John 14:24  Anyone who doesn’t love me will not obey me. And remember, my words are not my own. What I am telling you is from the Father who sent me.

17. They don’t want to be held accountable for their sin.

Romans 14:12  Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God.

Romans 2:15  They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
 

18. They are ignorant and they refuse to learn.


Ephesians 4:18 Their minds are full of darkness; they wander far from the life God gives because they have closed their minds and hardened their hearts against him.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.
 

19. The ones who hate Christianity are the ones who admire the devil.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1 John 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
 

20. We have Christ’s Spirit within us.


Romans 8:9 But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.
 

21. They hate the gospel of Christ.


1 Corinthians 1:18 The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God.

22. God said we would be persecuted. No Word of God will ever fail.

2 Timothy 3:12 Yes, and everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

1 John 3:13 Brothers and sisters, don’t be surprised if the world hates you.

 

23. We are foreigners and foreigners are always mistreated.


Hebrews 13:14  For this world is not our permanent home; we are looking forward to a home yet to come.

Philippians 3:20 But we are citizens of heaven, where the Lord Jesus Christ lives. And we are eagerly waiting for him to return as our Savior.

 

24. Because of the actions of fake Christians or immature believers.


Romans 2:24  No wonder the Scriptures say, “The Gentiles blaspheme the name of God because of you.”

 

25. Christians are bad for business to the wicked. Clubs, abortion clinics, pornography sites, casinos, prosperity preachers, psychics, etc. We fight against things that are evil, which is a problem for those who seek dishonest gain.


Acts 19:24-27 Demetrius, a silversmith, was in the business of making silver models of the temple of Artemis. His business brought a huge profit for the men who worked for him. He called a meeting of his workers and others who did similar work. Demetrius said, “Men, you know that we’re earning a good income from this business, and you see and hear what this man Paul has done. He has won over a large crowd that follows him not only in Ephesus but also throughout the province of Asia. He tells people that gods made by humans are not gods. There’s a danger that people will discredit our line of work, and there’s a danger that people will think that the temple of the great goddess Artemis is nothing. Then she whom all Asia and the rest of the world worship will be robbed of her glory.”

Acts 16:16-20 One day when we were going to the place of prayer, a female servant met us. She was possessed by an evil spirit that told fortunes. She made a lot of money for her owners by telling fortunes. She used to follow Paul and shout, “These men are servants of the Most High God. They’re telling you how you can be saved.” She kept doing this for many days. Paul became annoyed, turned to the evil spirit, and said, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!”As Paul said this, the evil spirit left her. When her owners realized that their hope of making money was gone, they grabbed Paul and Silas and dragged them to the authorities in the public square. In front of the Roman officials, they said, “These men are stirring up a lot of trouble in our city. They’re Jews

Luke 16:13-14 “No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.” The Pharisees, who dearly loved their money, heard all this and scoffed at him.
 

You will be hated. It’s cool these days to mock Jesus in a music video. The world loves false religions because they’re of their father Satan. Christianity is the most hated religion for a reason. When we suffer for Christ we share in His suffering. Rejoice in persecution. Pray for those who hate and persecute you. Continue to preach the gospel with love. Show others the love of God. Just like Jesus saved Paul, who used to murder Christians, He will save anyone. Repent and Trust in Christ alone for salvation.

Matthew 5:10-12 They are blessed who are persecuted for doing good, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them. “People will insult you and hurt you. They will lie and say all kinds of evil things about you because you follow me. But when they do, you will be blessed. Rejoice and be glad, because you have a great reward waiting for you in heaven. People did the same evil things to the prophets who lived before you.


In the end the article neglects to mention the often quoted "We don't hate God because you can't hate what doesn't exist."

Just remember to keep loving on folks and sharing the gospel.  These folks are deeply lost in their hatred of God as we once were, but love them regardless.

Take care,
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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 02:50:06 AM »
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1. The world hates us because we are not part of the world.

And yet, you're still here. Why don't you off yourselves? You could be meeting Jesus right this instant if you had slashed your wrists 10 minutes ago... something to think about!


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2. We are hated because we follow Christ.

Right... it's not because you shove Christ in other people's faces.


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3. The world hates God. We remind them of the God they hate so much.

Anthropomorphizing the world. Check.

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4. The darkness always hates the light.


Anthropomorphizing darkness. Check. You're on a roll.


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5. People hate the truth.


Now now, you're painting with an awfully broad brush there. All people can't hate the truth! I don't and I'm a person. Oh... wait... you mean the belief that you have and accept on nothing but faith?


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6. The world hates us because of our mission. Unbelievers love their self-righteousness. We have to tell people who think they’re good and have been doing the things society thinks will take them to Heaven that their good works mean nothing and their good deeds are just filthy rags. Pride is killing us. They think how dare you say I’m not good enough. How dare you call me evil. I’ve done way more good things than you. God knows my heart.

You've already anthropomorphized the world once. Can't you leave it alone? Remember, you're not of this world.


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7. Because they believe in lies. There are so many people who don’t know the Bible, but yet they still want to debate the Bible. They harden their heart to the truth and they say things like God condones slavery, this, that, etc.


I know the Bible - probably better than you. I want to debate it. Care to do so in a public setting, under strict rules of logic? We can have any proceeds go to a charity of your choice.


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8. They mistake love for hate.

Love, to you, is a God that sentences you to die for something that's outside of your control (since everyone has sinned and falls short of the glory of God) and instead of just forgiving those he claims to love, he sacrifices himself to appease a rule that he, himself, put in place?

And you have the balls to talk about love and hate?


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9. Because everybody else hates us and people of the world are followers. Without even getting to know Christianity people agree with others. If someone says that Christians are bigots someone will repeat that false information. They go off of what others say.


And what are Christians, if not followers?


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10. The world thinks Christians are stupid.


I don't know what the world thinks. I find them to be misguided and irrational.


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12. They don’t like the true Christ. They want to keep their life. They want one foot in and one foot out.

Who's the "true Christ"? Let me guess... the version you conveniently happen to believe in and not all the other versions.


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13. They want to keep their sins and they don’t like their sins being exposed.


Define sin first. Then define who "they" refers to. Then we can talk.


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14. Satan has blinded the world.

That only makes the world's other senses sharper and better. All of a sudden, DareDevil makes sense, doesn't he?


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15. They hate us because we are not doing evil with them. They believe that we think that we are better than non-Christians, which is not true. We’re not better, we’re just better off.

Who's they?


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16. They hate the Bible

But probably slighly less than then StarWars prequel trilogy. Perhaps some fan-fiction could help stoke the fires of hate?


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17. They don’t want to be held accountable for their sin.

The principle behind Christianity is that humans are sinful by nature and cannot do anything about that. If that's true, there's nothing to be held accountable for. You don't hold a lion accountable because it kills a gazelle. You don't hold an infant accountable because it shits his pants. You don't hold a ball accountable for rolling. You don't hold someone accountable for acting in accordance to their nature.


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18. They are ignorant and they refuse to learn.


That's rich coming from people who routinely ditch science and the pursuit of knowledge in favor or "MAGICAL SKY CREATURE DID IT!"


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19. The ones who hate Christianity are the ones who admire the devil.

You seem obsessed with hate.



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20. We have Christ’s Spirit within us.


Is that a metaphorical spirit, or a literal one? If it's the latter, you may want to have that looked at.


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21. They hate the gospel of Christ.


Or, perhaps, they (whoever they are) just hate bullshit?


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22. God said we would be persecuted. No Word of God will ever fail.

Really? I thought that in Judges 1:19 the word of God failed because the enemy had iron chariots.


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23. We are foreigners and foreigners are always mistreated.


Are they now? I don't think that's true, and you know it.


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24. Because of the actions of fake Christians or immature believers.


Don't forget those who copy-paste idiotic lists as brief reminders to themselves and other Christians!


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25. Christians are bad for business to the wicked. Clubs, abortion clinics, pornography sites, casinos, prosperity preachers, psychics, etc. We fight against things that are evil, which is a problem for those who seek dishonest gain.

Ah yes... Big Club, Big Abortion Clinic, Big Pornography, Big Prosperity Preaching and Big Psychic...

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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 07:31:03 AM »
10. The world thinks Christians are stupid.

This is clearly their own fault.

-Believing in a "God" that can't be proven and contradicting himself all the time in his book (Bible).
-Believing in a clearly manipulated and self-contradicting book and using it as some sort of a life guidance.

Just to mention 2 points.
There are more of course.
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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 07:57:13 AM »
This is clearly their own fault.

-Believing in a "God" that can't be proven and contradicting himself all the time in his book (Bible).
-Believing in a clearly manipulated and self-contradicting book and using it as some sort of a life guidance.

Just to mention 2 points.
There are more of course.


You refuse the evidence and there aren't any contradictions....just lack of understanding of the text.

Define for me what a contradiction is.

Then put forth your absolute best, irrefutable contradiction.

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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 08:10:31 AM »
Good post I hope to meet our savior very soon.

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 09:15:06 AM »
You refuse the evidence and there aren't any contradictions....just lack of understanding of the text.

Define for me what a contradiction is.

Then put forth your absolute best, irrefutable contradiction.

Sure...

Took me 2 seconds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contradiction

I was hoping you would be already familiar with that concept.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2016, 02:30:35 PM »
You refuse the evidence and there aren't any contradictions....just lack of understanding of the text.

I think you misunderstand what the term "evidence" means.


Define for me what a contradiction is.

Then put forth your absolute best, irrefutable contradiction.

1) "Everything requires a creator. By the way, my God doesn't require a creator!"

2) God is omniscient and knows, before you're even born, whether you'll be saved or not, !75 you are free to choose.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 05:28:36 AM »
I think you misunderstand what the term "evidence" means.


1) "Everything requires a creator. By the way, my God doesn't require a creator!"

2) God is omniscient and knows, before you're even born, whether you'll be saved or not, !75 you are free to choose.

I fully grasp all sorts of evidence and if I desire to understand the subject of that evidence I follow the evidence where it leads.  

It's a simple category mistake to demand scientific requirements of spiritual matters.

God's knowledge is complete.  He's sovereign and has ordained this existence so that our choices are upheld.  

His foreknowledge is not force-knowledge though.  If we make a choice or change our minds God's knowledge remains complete.  Knowledge is  benign and  doesn't force an outcome.  

We are allowed to exist in a world in which every option to accept or reject God is available to us.  Amidst the complete array of options a personal choice to forgo all the worldly pleasures and sin and instead opt for God's will for our lives makes that choice pure.

God knows who will be saved because his knowledge is complete and within that he knows our choices.  This life isn't about God understanding us and coming to those that seek him.  It's about us understanding God's will as outlined in scripture and coming to him.

Now I'm currently only on these boards because of the Olympia with Levrone and that's done.  So I'll most likely be back to virtual inactivity again.

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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 07:56:32 AM »
I fully grasp all sorts of evidence and if I desire to understand the subject of that evidence I follow the evidence where it leads.  

It's a simple category mistake to demand scientific requirements of spiritual matters.

God's knowledge is complete.  He's sovereign and has ordained this existence so that our choices are upheld.  

His foreknowledge is not force-knowledge though.  If we make a choice or change our minds God's knowledge remains complete.  Knowledge is  benign and  doesn't force an outcome.  

We are allowed to exist in a world in which every option to accept or reject God is available to us.  Amidst the complete array of options a personal choice to forgo all the worldly pleasures and sin and instead opt for God's will for our lives makes that choice pure.

God knows who will be saved because his knowledge is complete and within that he knows our choices.  This life isn't about God understanding us and coming to those that seek him.  It's about us understanding God's will as outlined in scripture and coming to him.

Can you provide a consistent, rational definition for God?

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It's been an interesting show!

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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 01:38:52 AM »
Can you provide a consistent, rational definition for God?

You already know it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 10:10:43 AM »
Can you provide a consistent, rational definition for God?

It's been an interesting show!

Consistency amongst trinitarians and consistency within my presentation on GB?  Yes.  

I performed a quick word search that is included in my standard definition and copied and pasted those results here for the demonstration of consistency.

Now I grasp that you reject consistency because Christian theists differ in some instances (ex: trinitarians v unitarians).  In this case the definition of God wouldn't be the same.  That's perceived as a flaw.  Yet we have consistency amongs the vast majority of Christian demoninations, but still have some outlier denominations that differ and that difference would mar the consistency you would require.  Subjectivity can't be overcome, but the trinitarian majority is consistent in it's objective definition which is grounded in scripture.  

Things of God are irrational to those that reject God so that's an impossible condition to fulfill.

Still, it's a word game to avoid accountability as I've mentioned for years.   Require conditions that can't be met (according to your terms) for a base definition and regardless of how far the argument still unravels the atheist can always revert back to the "errored definition" if need be.  It's akin to starting an argument with "ok, you can only say this and this....now go."

Yeah, the show was FINALLY interesting.  There were three Kevin's this weekend and all were different.  Olympia meeting Kevin looked great.  Friday's prejuddging Kevin looked old and depleted.  Saturday's final's Kevin looked fuller and younger.   Waist up he actually won a few poses against the top 5.   Waist down he simply couldn't compete.

Now we understand the injuries he worked through so I respect what he did.  Friday I was almost speechless, but after seeing the pics I my opinion became much more positive.

Kevin on Saturday will improved legs could've won the classic physique class.   He's too different to compete with the traditional bbr class today.  

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Re: 25 Reasons Why The World Hates Christians And Christianity
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2016, 12:35:09 PM »
And yet, you're still here. Why don't you off yourselves? You could be meeting Jesus right this instant if you had slashed your wrists 10 minutes ago... something to think about!


Right... it's not because you shove Christ in other people's faces.


Anthropomorphizing the world. Check.

Anthropomorphizing darkness. Check. You're on a roll.


Now now, you're painting with an awfully broad brush there. All people can't hate the truth! I don't and I'm a person. Oh... wait... you mean the belief that you have and accept on nothing but faith?


You've already anthropomorphized the world once. Can't you leave it alone? Remember, you're not of this world.


I know the Bible - probably better than you. I want to debate it. Care to do so in a public setting, under strict rules of logic? We can have any proceeds go to a charity of your choice.


Love, to you, is a God that sentences you to die for something that's outside of your control (since everyone has sinned and falls short of the glory of God) and instead of just forgiving those he claims to love, he sacrifices himself to appease a rule that he, himself, put in place?

And you have the balls to talk about love and hate?


And what are Christians, if not followers?


I don't know what the world thinks. I find them to be misguided and irrational.


Who's the "true Christ"? Let me guess... the version you conveniently happen to believe in and not all the other versions.


Define sin first. Then define who "they" refers to. Then we can talk.


That only makes the world's other senses sharper and better. All of a sudden, DareDevil makes sense, doesn't he?


Who's they?


But probably slighly less than then StarWars prequel trilogy. Perhaps some fan-fiction could help stoke the fires of hate?


The principle behind Christianity is that humans are sinful by nature and cannot do anything about that. If that's true, there's nothing to be held accountable for. You don't hold a lion accountable because it kills a gazelle. You don't hold an infant accountable because it shits his pants. You don't hold a ball accountable for rolling. You don't hold someone accountable for acting in accordance to their nature.


That's rich coming from people who routinely ditch science and the pursuit of knowledge in favor or "MAGICAL SKY CREATURE DID IT!"


You seem obsessed with hate.



Is that a metaphorical spirit, or a literal one? If it's the latter, you may want to have that looked at.


Or, perhaps, they (whoever they are) just hate bullshit?


Really? I thought that in Judges 1:19 the word of God failed because the enemy had iron chariots.


Are they now? I don't think that's true, and you know it.


Don't forget those who copy-paste idiotic lists as brief reminders to themselves and other Christians!


Ah yes... Big Club, Big Abortion Clinic, Big Pornography, Big Prosperity Preaching and Big Psychic...


Always enjoy your responses in this room. saves me a lot of work, and you put it together much better than I would