The uncrowned 2002 Olympia

[SilverSpoon]

yup. all drugs

It is amazing to me that so-called bodybuilders don't understand the role drugs play.

I am lifetime natural, but I have been around the game long enough to understand that 99% of gym rats have at least dabbled.

I do not judge anyone, as they are free to do as they wish.

I learned the "all drugs" lesson back in 1999 or so, when I was in grad school.

A guy I knew pretty well from the gym was a top local competitor having qualified for NPC Nationals as a light heavy (I believe).

He either got an abscess or an injury and had to go off.  In 3 months, it looked like the guy may have stopped training years before. 

[FREAKgeek]

It is amazing to me that so-called bodybuilders don't understand the role drugs play.

I am lifetime natural, but I have been around the game long enough to understand that 99% of gym rats have at least dabbled.

I do not judge anyone, as they are free to do as they wish.

I learned the "all drugs" lesson back in 1999 or so, when I was in grad school.

A guy I knew pretty well from the gym was a top local competitor having qualified for NPC Nationals as a light heavy (I believe).

He either got an abscess or an injury and had to go off.  In 3 months, it looked like the guy may have stopped training years before. 

yeah. But you also need the genetic response and look.

[Simple Simon]

It is amazing to me that so-called bodybuilders don't understand the role drugs play.

I am lifetime natural, but I have been around the game long enough to understand that 99% of gym rats have at least dabbled.

I do not judge anyone, as they are free to do as they wish.

I learned the "all drugs" lesson back in 1999 or so, when I was in grad school.

A guy I knew pretty well from the gym was a top local competitor having qualified for NPC Nationals as a light heavy (I believe).

He either got an abscess or an injury and had to go off.  In 3 months, it looked like the guy may have stopped training years before. 

that happens to nattys when they stop training.

Stop deluding yourself, your natty muscle is no more natty than steroid induced gains, its all temporary.
The muscle responds to exercise , when you stop doing it the body allows them to shrink because it doesn't need them.
Steroid users shrink more because they gained more.

[ChristopherA]

that happens to nattys when they stop training.

Stop deluding yourself, your natty muscle is no more natty than steroid induced gains, its all temporary.
The muscle responds to exercise , when you stop doing it the body allows them to shrink because it doesn't need them.
Steroid users shrink more because they gained more.

Epically good post

[JCL]

that happens to nattys when they stop training.

Stop deluding yourself, your natty muscle is no more natty than steroid induced gains, its all temporary.
The muscle responds to exercise , when you stop doing it the body allows them to shrink because it doesn't need them.
Steroid users shrink more because they gained more.

Totally agree!

And I don't believe that 99% of gym rats have dabbled either.

I've trained for a long time, up and down, took lots of time off in between, and i've always been accused of trying at some point.

Only thing close to steroids that i've tried was clen. 

If i stop training, i shrink, but i can quickly get it back with 2-4 weeks of training serious and eating.

[Simple Simon]

Totally agree!

And I don't believe that 99% of gym rats have dabbled either.

I've trained for a long time, up and down, took lots of time off in between, and i've always been accused of trying at some point.

Only thing close to steroids that i've tried was clen. 

If i stop training, i shrink, but i can quickly get it back with 2-4 weeks of training serious and eating.

I compete at around 200lbs, when I stopped training for a few years my weight stayed at 200lbs, my body composition changed, that was all.

[bigkid]

Gunter looked insane in the 2002 BFTO video.

[Rambone]