Trump tells Boeing to cancel new AF1 order

[James]

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump


True Change!

[Yamcha]

Seriously, $12 per citizen. He just bought us all lunch.  

Thanks Mr. Trump!

[SOMEPARTS]

Mah man.

[Yamcha]

DRAIN. THE. SWAMP. 

[Yamcha]

LOL at Boeing:

[Thin Lizzy]

This shit goes on everywhere, especially in NY. Businesses love getting Government contracts  because they can overcharge and do a shitty job.

That's the whole point of limiting government because there's no accountability.

[Howard]

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump


True Change!

I was at the BK drive thru and realized I left my wallet at home, so I cancelled my order.
Trump = Howard of getbig...like a boss

[Yamcha]

Media is bitching about Trump knowing how much the planes cost... The headline of the article says "Trump is lying about the cost of the plane" ----> The article says he's right 

[James]

Trump = Howard of getbig.

no, you are a tub full of shit.

Tub full of shit = Howard

[Yamcha]

Report: U.S. Embassy Construction Over Budget, Not Meeting Deadlines

https://oversight.house.gov/release/report-u-s-embassy-construction-budget-not-meeting-deadlines/

Key Findings:

    The Department’s shift away from the Standard Embassy Design (SED) to Design Excellence brought about longer planning and construction schedules, which were accompanied by millions of dollars in increased costs for facilities.
    In the six years since the Department started Design Excellence, not one Design Excellence-only facility has been completed. (*Some facilities using a hybrid method have been completed.) That compares to an average of eight facilities per year under the Standard Embassy Design.   
    Design Excellence keeps U.S. personnel abroad waiting for safe and adequate facilities.

Key Recommendations:

    Congress should require the Department to return to an SED-type template as the default for all new embassy and consulate facilities.
    Congress should exercise greater scrutiny over the Department’s budget requests, including considering a budget cap on facility design costs.
    Congress should require Overseas Buildings Operations (OBO) to produce an annual Long-Range Building Plan and Long-Range Maintenance Plan. While required under the Foreign Affairs Manual, OBO has not updated the plans since 2013.

[Coach is Back!]

Media is bitching about Trump knowing how much the planes cost... The headline of the article says "Trump is lying about the cost of the plane" ----> The article says he's right 

When Trump makes comments such as this it always sounds like he's just pulling numbers out of his butt, but it seems in reality he doesn't just say anything without confirming it and backing it up.

[Agnostic007]

When Trump makes comments such as this it always sounds like he's just pulling numbers out of his butt, but it seems in reality he doesn't just say anything without confirming it and backing it up.

Are  you high? MOST of what he says he pulls out of his ass

[loco]

Are  you high? MOST of what he says he pulls out of his ass

Yeah, just like when he said that he was going to win Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan weeks before the election.

[Agnostic007]

Yeah, just like when he said that he was going to win Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan weeks before the election.

Or saw thousands of muslims celebrating in the streets of New Jersey.....

or the Mexican government forces bad people into the US

the number of illegal immigrants in the US is 30 -34 million

Or he was totally against the war in Iraq

or there is no system to vet the refugees

or the unemployment rate could be as high as 42%

Or we're the highest taxed nation in the world

Or the one about Ted Cruz' father..

or....

or....

[loco]

Or saw thousands of muslims celebrating in the streets of New Jersey.....

or the Mexican government forces bad people into the US

the number of illegal immigrants in the US is 30 -34 million

Or he was totally against the war in Iraq

or there is no system to vet the refugees

or the unemployment rate could be as high as 42%

Or we're the highest taxed nation in the world

Or the one about Ted Cruz' father..

or....

or....

FYI, I was being serious.  When he said that he was going to win Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan weeks before the election, I thought he was pulling that out of he butt.  Since I didn't want Hillary to win, I'm glad he was right.

[Yamcha]

ABC news does little news clips at the top of the hour on my local talk radio station.

They said that Trump was wrong about $4 billion price tag; then they said that it would cost 2.7 billion in r&d and about 1 billion in production per plane....

So lets see... 2.7 billion in r&d + 2 billion for the two planes that will be produced.

But that's not any of my business...

[mass243]

4 billion for an aircraft??

I know these planes have fancy systems and all but that's some serious corruption and misspending involved.

[Nick Danger]

 Richard Aboulafia, an aviation expert at Teal Group, said there was no basis for the cost claims. “He is completely making stuff up arbitrarily,” he said. “That doesn’t mean that one day that there won’t be cost problems. It is just way too early.”

I like that he is questioning the amount but does he realize the specialized equipment involved?

He also tweeted $ 4 billion for a single jet, the actual cost is for 2...

Lastly, there isn't another US manufacturer who can produce the planes...he could outsource the job to the French, Russians or Chinese.

[Yamcha]

Richard Aboulafia, an aviation expert at Teal Group, said there was no basis for the cost claims. “He is completely making stuff up arbitrarily,” he said. “That doesn’t mean that one day that there won’t be cost problems. It is just way too early.”

I like that he is questioning the amount but does he realize the specialized equipment involved?

He also tweeted $ 4 billion for a single jet, the actual cost is for 2...

Lastly, there isn't another US manufacturer who can produce the planes...he could outsource the job to the French, Russians or Chinese.

You do know that there are 2 air force ones and travel together at ALL TIMES!!!!

So it will be around $4 billion...

Here: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+many+air+force+ones+are+there

[Nick Danger]

You do know that there are 2 air force ones and travel together at ALL TIMES!!!!

So it will be around $4 billion...

Here: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+many+air+force+ones+are+there

I do know that but that's not what he tweeted.

"Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents..."

[Yamcha]

I do know that but that's not what he tweeted.

"Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents..."

LOL!

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

4 billion for an aircraft??

I know these planes have fancy systems and all but that's some serious corruption and misspending involved.

There's no price that's even been given.  Boeing is still working the cost but Trump needs to consider that its the Presidential plane so its not just going to be some ordinary but its not going to cost no fucking 4 billion dollars.  A brand new one is 351 million and with the special customizations, it will likely be about 800 or 900 million.

[Eyeball Chambers]

What's wrong with the current AF1 747s?

[avxo]

Of course, Trump doesn't actually have the authority to tell Boeing or the Air Force to cancel anything. But let's not get caught up in the little things...

P.S.: the cost overrun does appear ridiculous.

[Coach is Back!]

Of course, Trump doesn't actually have the authority to tell Boeing or the Air Force to cancel anything. But let's not get caught up in the little things...

P.S.: the cost overrun does appear ridiculous.

He knows that. That being said, just that tweet alone this morning caused Boeing's stock to take a shit.