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[The True Adonis]

EFI and the engine control unit have been the greatest automotive developments in the last 30 years. 

[Palumboism]

There should be no question about this.

EFI >>>>> carburetor

[The True Adonis]

There should be no question about this.

EFI >>>>> carburetor

Sometimes efficiency ruins everything.

An inkjet printer can do a better job of painting masterpieces than a human can, but one is way more sought after. 

Same thing with cars.  They used to be works of rolling art.  Now they are shit looking jellybeans with inflatable rafts inside them.  All look like shit.  Every single car you post is usually pure shit.  How you cannot see that is beyond me.

Sign of the times I guess.  People just want Iphones and solar panels on their one room apartments.  Sad!

[HTexan]

EFI and the engine control unit have been the greatest automotive developments in the last 30 years.  

Maintenance and performance? Nope carb is easier to maintain and tune if you know what you're doing. Computers and the massive amount of sensors and wiring , add maintenance issues. Drive by wire systems add lag to throttle response, ecu goes crazy and enter limp mode on most cars if the air to fuel ratio changes a little bit, electric stability control and traction control effects a real drivers ability to drive the car, etc.

Are computers great on mass produce appliance cars? Of course, mpg is better, better for people that can't tune or drive. But for a car's performance or lifespan nope. Plus modern v8s can gain over 75hp when racers take all the sensors and smog shit off, and run a carb.

[Skylge]

my 740i had so many damn suspension issues and brushing issues.

"its a heavy car" they kept telling me. my 7 series i picked up a high mile that was several years old. i wanted a big 4 door sedan. it was a lincoln LS or this 7 series.

i will never buy a high mile euro sedan ever again.. it became a project car   not by choice

not my 7 series, photo ganked from google images*







if you are a BMW fan in the early 2000s you will remember these BMW films. this film made me want a 7 so bad. i had the exact color and model. 2001 sport short wheel base the sport trans.  

my first gf was this tiny Puerto rican chic and she would drive my 7 series when she would go to costco and shit. she looked so funny in it  

the did a BMW film with an m5 and madonna too. her bf/husband did the film.

"It's a heavy car"......the manufacturer knows this and should have installed heavy duty components......

[Palumboism]

Sometimes efficiency ruins everything.

An inkjet printer can do a better job of painting masterpieces than a human can, but one is way more sought after.  

Same thing with cars.  They used to be works of rolling art.  Now they are shit looking jellybeans with inflatable rafts inside them.  All look like shit.  Every single car you post is usually pure shit.  How you cannot see that is beyond me.

Sign of the times I guess.  People just want Iphones and solar panels on their one room apartments.  Sad!

At the end of the day it's the customer that decides what they want to buy.  The customer doesn't want a full sized, rear wheeled drive coupes that look great.  They want a Honda CR-V that's easy to maneuver in a parking lot. The rolling piece of art you want doesn't exist because nobody would buy it.  

One hundred percent of the cars made today are fuel injected and zero have carburetors.  Yes, fuel injection is more complicated the a carburetor, but the benefits are many and most people wouldn't want the hassle of a carburetor.  

[The True Adonis]

At the end of the day it's the customer that decides what they want to buy.  The customer doesn't want a full sized, rear wheeled drive coupes that look great.  They want a Honda CR-V that's easy to maneuver in a parking lot. The rolling piece of art you want doesn't exist because nobody would buy it.  

One hundred percent of the cars made today are fuel injected and zero have carburetors.  Yes, fuel injection is more complicated the a carburetor, but the benefits are many and most people wouldn't want the hassle of a carburetor.  

Its not up to the customer at all.  At this point, its up to the government to tell what the car manufactures can and can't make and do and out comes the garbage that you lust after. hahhaa


Its sad but hilarious.

[Bevo]

At the end of the day it's the customer that decides what they want to buy.  The customer doesn't want a full sized, rear wheeled drive coupes that look great.  They want a Honda CR-V that's easy to maneuver in a parking lot. The rolling piece of art you want doesn't exist because nobody would buy it.  

One hundred percent of the cars made today are fuel injected and zero have carburetors.  Yes, fuel injection is more complicated the a carburetor, but the benefits are many and most people wouldn't want the hassle of a carburetor.  

American cars in general haven't been "rolling piece of art" for decades now aside from a few models and they are all sports cars

They certainly are rolling pieces of shits as companies and products

How can TA say they were good in the 80's is beyond delusional

[The True Adonis]

American cars in general haven't been "rolling piece of art" for decades now aside from a few models and they are all sports cars

They certainly are rolling pieces of shits as companies and products

How can TA say they were good in the 80's is beyond delusional

All cars should look like the 30s-70s as far as I am concerned.

To say that anything today even comes close to something like a Delahaye is completely ridiculous.  Have fun driving in your electronic shitbox.

This is a real car.

[Palumboism]

All cars should look like the 30s-70s as far as I am concerned.

To say that anything today even comes close to something like a Delahaye is completely ridiculous.  Have fun driving in your electronic shitbox.

The customer doesn't want this.  It's a full sized car with only two doors and two seats.  If a vehicle doesn't have four doors it doesn't sell.

There is nothing stopping Cadillac from making the same Fleetwood they made in 1994 except the customer.  The market for that car does not exist.  You blame government regulation, but what you should really blame is consumer preferences. 

[The True Adonis]

The customer doesn't want this.  It's a full sized car with only two doors and two seats.  If a vehicle doesn't have four doors it doesn't sell.

There is nothing stopping Cadillac from making the same Fleetwood they made in 1994 except the customer.  The market for that car does not exist.  You blame government regulation, but what you should really blame is consumer preferences. 

You mean consumer stupidity and a culture shift towards a throwaway non-ownership of anything society.

[tres_taco_combo]

The customer doesn't want this.  It's a full sized car with only two doors and two seats.  If a vehicle doesn't have four doors it doesn't sell.

There is nothing stopping Cadillac from making the same Fleetwood they made in 1994 except the customer.  The market for that car does not exist.  You blame government regulation, but what you should really blame is consumer preferences. 

in the US, besides trucks (#1 seller) a big seller is the mini SUV/CROSS OVER type vehicle.  the market doesnt demand big 4 door sedans. the only ones out there are for the well to super rich that are worth a damn...

from the cheapest decent 4 door sedans

maxima/honda accord
CTS cadi 5 series/e class
A8, 7 series, s class etc etc
porsche, Aston martin, maserati
then the peak for high end large sedans that do ok...
bentley, rolls etc maybach


average person really doesnt even want a 4 door large car anymore. i love em cuz i am old school, id love to a big ole jaguar boat

[Bevo]

Turn my $1 lotto ticket into $3mil and im not buyin an S63 Sedan or Rolls Ghost... I'm buyin a Range Rover w/a supercharged V8 (full size, not sport,& prolly an Autobiography Ed, since you cant get red interior in the others...i think)

... Oh, & a Huracan Roadster, cuz there's no cruise-control in the Aventador.

U prob go broke in no time too

[tres_taco_combo]

Turn my $1 lotto ticket into $3mil and im not buyin an S63 Sedan or Rolls Ghost... I'm buyin a Range Rover w/a supercharged V8 (full size, not sport,& prolly an Autobiography Ed, since you cant get red interior in the others...i think)

... Oh, & a Huracan Roadster, cuz there's no cruise-control in the Aventador.

haha love it dude!

reasonable lotto (5-10mil) vs unlimited money

Roush mustang or gt350 (own roush now)
ferrari f430 or maybe the new f88 - obvi red
classic 1991 ford mustang cobra r
Masrerati SUV

[tres_taco_combo]

Im good with money. Was a prop-trader for years, besides a $20k investment turns into about $340k (without even taking into account reinvestment) in my line of work.... And far as the cars, they'd be pre-owned, even with only 12k and 3k on the clock respectively. (& a home in Rancho Penasquitos, next to del Mar, where the same home would be an extra $300k.)

id still live in scottsdale and just with more access to money do tons of legit weekend trips to LA, SD, OC so its fun.i wouldnt want to live in cali but i fuckin love to visit it. im driving out there tomorrow -    ill get a getbig pic

[Bevo]

haha love it dude!

reasonable lotto (5-10mil) vs unlimited money

Roush mustang or gt350 (own roush now)
ferrari f430 or maybe the new f88 - obvi red
classic 1991 ford mustang cobra r
Masrerati SUV

Gosh I hate those fox body mustangs with a passion  quick for the money, but ugly, can't steer or handle, and "quality" doesn't exist in the materials used

[NaturalWonder83]

Looks like Getbig has spoken.  BMWs are pieces of shit.   (unless you go into the 80s models)

haha who on here thinks they're hot shit because they drive a BMW??? Haha u think you're so cool-who fucking cares if u saved and saved to buy the car u always wanted
We don't give a shit about your m3 or 5 series fuck off!!

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

1994 toyota corolla with empty beer cans on the backseat is the sweet spot imo.

[XFACTOR]

Im good with money. Was a prop-trader for years, besides a $20k investment turns into about $340k (without even taking into account reinvestment) in my line of work.... And far as the cars, they'd be pre-owned, even with only 12k and 3k on the clock respectively. (& a home in Rancho Penasquitos, next to del Mar, where the same home would be an extra $300k.)

Fuck dude you have a story for everything.  When do you stop?

[Twaddle]

Fuck dude you have a story for everything.  When do you stop?

He doesn't stop.  He doesn't have a stop gene!   

[The True Adonis]

[The_Punisher]

2017 BMW M4 GTS.......it's a really bad ass bimmer....they're killing the competition; when you add all the options, your bill come up to a total of $120,000.... but to each his own

[Bevo]

2017 BMW M4 GTS.......it's a really bad ass bimmer....they're killing the competition; when you add all the options, your bill come up to a total of $120,000.... but to each his own

Yeah but u won't get it for the price and it's sold out

People that are selling them are going for 200k+

No thanks, just buy a Porsche gt3

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yeah but u won't get it for the price and it's sold out

People that are selling them are going for 200k+

No thanks, just buy a Porsche gt3

You can get them as low as $135K on eBay and that's looking for 2 minutes. I'm with you I would take a GT3 over this all day long

[The True Adonis]

2017 BMW M4 GTS.......it's a really bad ass bimmer....they're killing the competition; when you add all the options, your bill come up to a total of $120,000.... but to each his own

Looks like shit.  Absolute shit.