When Jay Cutler and I were competing in the 2003 Mr. Olympia contest

[wes]

Are you happy and content with YOUR life?

 I see and hear a lot of guys out there, living lives of "quiet desperation".
Yup, I got divorced a couple times , and now I'm married to my dream girl.

Unlike some men, I refused to stay with a woman that tried to pressure me into a lifestyle I'd dread.
The first one wanted kids, 2-3 years into the marriage. I never did and refused to be manipulated into having them.
Now I see unhappy ,divorced men, who had kids with a woman and seem miserable.

They often meet the ex-wife, on weekends, at some Mall or fast food parking lot.
The kids get switched out with them for the weekend and she looks like a resentful bitch.
He often looks beat down and cringes as the kids are loud and obnoxious.

I don't know how or why, so many men just "take it" .
Why do so many men allow a woman to pressure them into doing things they don't want?
From having kids to taking jobs they hate, I've seen plenty of men just going along with her. WTF?

At my wife's Christmas office party I met a real pathetic character.
He was a CPA with a decent income and worked out.
After a few drinks he confessed he hated his marriage and his 12 yr old son was a spoiled brat.
In fact,  he last had sex with his wife 7 years ago and they slept in separate rooms.
Why he stayed married was a real mystery to me.

I know many of you have lampooned and insulted me , claiming I'm some lame cuck.
Trust me, I'm polite, but I refuse to allow any woman to pressure or manipulate me into things.
I've walked away from more than 1 woman who tried and never had any regrets.

[Don_Dada]

Are you happy and content with YOUR life?

 I see and hear a lot of guys out there, living lives of "quiet desperation".
Yup, I got divorced a couple times , and now I'm married to my dream girl.

Unlike some men, I refused to stay with a woman that tried to pressure me into a lifestyle I'd dread.
The first one wanted kids, 2-3 years into the marriage. I never did and refused to be manipulated into having them.
Now I see unhappy ,divorced men, who had kids with a woman and seem miserable.

They often meet the ex-wife, on weekends, at some Mall or fast food parking lot.
The kids get switched out with them for the weekend and she looks like a resentful bitch.
He often looks beat down and cringes as the kids are loud and obnoxious.

I don't know how or why, so many men just "take it" .
Why do so many men allow a woman to pressure them into doing things they don't want?
From having kids to taking jobs they hate, I've seen plenty of men just going along with her. WTF?

At my wife's Christmas office party I met a real pathetic character.
He was a CPA with a decent income and worked out.
After a few drinks he confessed he hated his marriage and his 12 yr old son was a spoiled brat.
In fact,  he last had sex with his wife 7 years ago and they slept in separate rooms.
Why he stayed married was a real mystery to me.

I know many of you have lampooned and insulted me , claiming I'm some lame cuck.
Trust me, I'm polite, but I refuse to allow any woman to pressure or manipulate me into things.
I've walked away from more than 1 woman who tried and never had any regrets.

Looks like Howard has his own meme now

[Ronnie Rep]

Are you happy and content with YOUR life?

 I see and hear a lot of guys out there, living lives of "quiet desperation".
Yup, I got divorced a couple times , and now I'm married to my dream girl.

Unlike some men, I refused to stay with a woman that tried to pressure me into a lifestyle I'd dread.
The first one wanted kids, 2-3 years into the marriage. I never did and refused to be manipulated into having them.
Now I see unhappy ,divorced men, who had kids with a woman and seem miserable.

They often meet the ex-wife, on weekends, at some Mall or fast food parking lot.
The kids get switched out with them for the weekend and she looks like a resentful bitch.
He often looks beat down and cringes as the kids are loud and obnoxious.

I don't know how or why, so many men just "take it" .
Why do so many men allow a woman to pressure them into doing things they don't want?
From having kids to taking jobs they hate, I've seen plenty of men just going along with her. WTF?

At my wife's Christmas office party I met a real pathetic character.
He was a CPA with a decent income and worked out.
After a few drinks he confessed he hated his marriage and his 12 yr old son was a spoiled brat.
In fact,  he last had sex with his wife 7 years ago and they slept in separate rooms.
Why he stayed married was a real mystery to me.

I know many of you have lampooned and insulted me , claiming I'm some lame cuck.
Trust me, I'm polite, but I refuse to allow any woman to pressure or manipulate me into things.
I've walked away from more than 1 woman who tried and never had any regrets.

[Danimal77]

not from the back

Not from the front or side either. Gay Gutler was top 3 worst Mr. Olympias ever, along with Franco Columbo (1981) and Chris Dickerson (1982).

[ProudVirgin69]

Not from the front or side either. Gay Gutler was top 3 worst Mr. Olympias ever, along with Franco Columbo (1981) and Chris Dickerson (1982).

He nailed it a couple times, 2001 in particular

[BSN]

Ronnie was beaten by himself, not by Jay. More precisely, by his injuries... and some bad decisions. If he had not been so covered, in prejudging, maybe the history would have been different. In the finals he clearly showed better.
Even so, after the 2006 MO he would have deserved the title in Holland GP (In pictures below).

[kevcat]

Jay didn't beat Ronnie, Ronnies body didn't hold up. There's a big difference.

A win is a win 

[Dave D]

A win is a win 

Jay did win the Mr.O and he should have.  Ronnie was on the downside. Jay couldn't beat Ron when healthy. Ronnie had beaten a peak Jay.

Facts are facts.


Good to see you still posting.

[Nether Animal]

My God they both look awful there, but Jay especially. Can't believe he won looking like that,.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I personally prefer Ronnie's 98-99 version ( for details), than the 2003-2004 monster look.

[Nether Animal]

Ronnie was beaten by himself, not by Jay. More precisely, by his injuries... and some bad decisions. If he had not been so covered, in prejudging, maybe the history would have been different. In the finals he clearly showed better.
Even so, after the 2006 MO he would have deserved the title in Holland GP (In pictures below).

Ronnie's lats were uneven, sure but he had that indent in his left lower back going back to the late '90s.

Hell, Jay's quads were just as uneven, then Ronnie is (as usual) destroying hm on conditioning, especially lower body. But yeah, he looks way better here than at the Olympia.

[BSN]

Thanks ND. Yes, for that reason