Marius Dohne - Stage 5 Kidney failure

[Taffin]

Doesn't South Africa have socialized medicine? 

Why is he asking for money?

https://candystick.co.za/c/marius-dohne-dialysis/#.WRh9OuRfmhM.facebook

Keep your BP in check guys and have regular blood work.

Hoping to raise $150k?

http://www.havocscope.com/black-market-prices/organs-kidneys/

[local hero]

for a pro he is nobody. like lee priest said, if you need boat loads of gear just to get to pro stage you have no chance.

Yeh because he was well known for telling the truth about gear....

How he can tell his winstrol story in a gym seminar full of bodybuilders is beyond me

[thelamefalsehood]

I don't believe it's the BP, but the AAS themselves and if the individual has a propensity towards kidney issues.
check out this study, very eye opening.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2799287/#!po=9.78261

[Ronnie Rep]

he's dohne...

[kepler2008]

Particularly instructive.

Patient 1 :
... "At the time of biopsy, his steroid regimen consisted of growth hormone 4 IU 5 d/wk and testosterone 500 mg intramuscularly twice weekly. In addition, he took 75 mg of ephedrine and 600 mg of caffeine before each workout session." ...

[dseiler]

Why is it that some guys get kidney failure and others abuse on end for years and are ok? (read: markus ruhl)

Genetics.

[DroppingPlates]

Particularly instructive.

Patient 1 :
... "At the time of biopsy, his steroid regimen consisted of growth hormone 4 IU 5 d/wk and testosterone 500 mg intramuscularly twice weekly. In addition, he took 75 mg of ephedrine and 600 mg of caffeine before each workout session." ...

Ha, and no details about his diuretic use..

[Van_Bilderass]

I don't believe it's the BP, but the AAS themselves and if the individual has a propensity towards kidney issues.
check out this study, very eye opening.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2799287/#!po=9.78261

Someone I think is very intelligent wrote this on professionalmuscle:

I've seen a lot of sick people over the last 25 years. I'm trying to remember who I've seen with CKD, or more specifically CKD requiring dialysis, without comorbid hypertension or a genetic pathology. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now. Maybe I've never seen it, which is my point. This includes bodybuilders I've met or known on some personal level like Don Long (HTN, diuretics), Beau Baisden (HTN, diuretics, partying in Vegas ), Tom Prince (NSAIDs + HTN + diuretics), Flex Wheeler (HTN + diuretics), Dan Duchaine (polycystic kidney disease), Mike Morris (HTN, diuretics) and regular run of the mill people I've treated in the old charity hospital system in South Louisiana to the most privileged at Cedars Sinai. They all have HTN = hypertension usually coupled with something else. NSAID abuse, diuretic abuse, cocaine abuse, all of the above, etc.

My point is, monitor your BP yourself at home regularly with a reliable cuff and keep in check. Risk begins over 115 systolic. If you have some measure of CAD already this may to be too low for you and you would aim higher, 120-130. Don't do stupid shit like take 3 grams of ibuprofen per day (Prince) or snort an 8 ball of coke in a night the weekend of the O (Beau) on top of your untreated hypertension (all of them). Avoid loop diuretics like Lasix and Demedex (Chad Nicholls' choice - Prince, Flex). Use Aldactone sparingly pre contest only as needed if you must use a diuretic. Do not use it to look better for guest posing or Vegas pool parties like I've known a lot these guys to do. If you are a water logged fuck you're probably fat anyway. How many water logged fucks have you known that shoot Lasix or take Demedex come in shredded and win the show as a result? Almost never happens. I'm not saying it can't, I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now.

Avoid any and all of that and you will have a hard time convincing me that you have to worry about the direct affect of androgens on the kidneys aka androgenic nephrotoxicity. Show me a guy with a BP of 106/65 for example with CKD. It will be very diifficult to find this person.

Rex.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/2472746-post56.html

[local hero]

Someone I think is very intelligent wrote this on professionalmuscle:

That's a great point of view, its great if you have a Dr/medic speaking with an open mind

[Rudee]

Stage 5 Idiocy.

[Strongmanfan]

Doesn't South Africa have socialized medicine? 

Why is he asking for money?

https://candystick.co.za/c/marius-dohne-dialysis/#.WRh9OuRfmhM.facebook

Keep your BP in check guys and have regular blood work.

South Africa is a dump.  Check out Stefan Molyneux's recent video on YouTube.

[Powerlift66]

bodybuilding 

[DroppingPlates]

bodybuilding 

Powerlifting

[stuntmovie]

CUT AND PASTE..... A person with stage 5 chronic kidney disease has end stage renal disease (ESRD) with a glomerular filtration rate (GFR) of 15 ml/min or less. At this advanced stage of kidney disease, the kidneys have lost nearly all their ability to do their job effectively, and eventually dialysis or a kidney transplant is needed to live.

Symptoms that can occur in stage 5 CKD include:

Loss of appetite
Nausea or vomiting
Headaches
Being tired
Being unable to concentrate
Itching
Making little or no urine
Swelling, especially around the eyes and ankles
Muscle cramps
Tingling in hands or feet
Changes in skin color
Increased skin pigmentation

Because the kidneys are no longer able to remove waste and fluids from the body, toxins build up in the blood, causing an overall ill feeling. Kidneys also have other functions they are no longer able to perform such as regulating blood pressure, producing the hormone that helps make red blood cells and activating vitamin D for healthy bones.

[Marty Champions]

eaat more meat

[Jayel]

So easy to prevent

Hahahaha!!!

I remember Piana stating that he "specifically designed that product for people who use steroids". Gee, that's reassuring to the consumer considering the medical background and qualifications Piana has in his arsenal, to go with those 24" guns.. 

[ESFitness]

CUT AND PASTE..... A person with stage 5 chronic kidney disease has end stage renal disease (ESRD) with a glomerular filtration rate (GFR) of 15 ml/min or less. At this advanced stage of kidney disease, the kidneys have lost nearly all their ability to do their job effectively, and eventually dialysis or a kidney transplant is needed to live.

Symptoms that can occur in stage 5 CKD include:

Loss of appetite
Nausea or vomiting
Headaches
Being tired
Being unable to concentrate
Itching
Making little or no urine
Swelling, especially around the eyes and ankles
Muscle cramps
Tingling in hands or feet
Changes in skin color
Increased skin pigmentation

Because the kidneys are no longer able to remove waste and fluids from the body, toxins build up in the blood, causing an overall ill feeling. Kidneys also have other functions they are no longer able to perform such as regulating blood pressure, producing the hormone that helps make red blood cells and activating vitamin D for healthy bones.

Haha i have every one of those symptoms. Lol

[The Scott]

Haha i have every one of those symptoms. Lol

Haha good. Lol

[el numero uno]

Haha i have every one of those symptoms. Lol

Delusional, attention whore.

[Simple Simon]

Haha i have every one of those symptoms. Lol

and yet you think you are a good fighter...?

hahaha... you couldnt fight your way out of a paper bag.

[BigCyp]

Yes, his Kidneys completely failed, due to processing too much protein 

Nothing to do whatsoever with the daily cocktail of painkillers, anabolic steroid and whatever else.

[Strongmanfan]

Yes, his Kidneys completely failed, due to processing too much protein 

Nothing to do whatsoever with the daily cocktail of painkillers, anabolic steroid and whatever else.

We need to distinguise NSAID-based analgesics from opiates.  Opiates are not toxic to the organs, and can be used for decades without interruption.  Indeed, they are designed for this.

[The_Punisher]

his Rep said he'll recover fast enough and be ready for the New York Pro this weekend

[BigCyp]

We need to distinguise NSAID-based analgesics from opiates.  Opiates are not toxic to the organs, and can be used for decades without interruption.  Indeed, they are designed for this.

Surely most opiate based pain meds are cut with other analgesics like acetominaphen/ibuprofen etc?

I know that in the U.K. you can get codeine pills that are pure codeine, but most other pills have other medicines that are toxic to the liver/kidneys right?

[Strongmanfan]

Surely most opiate based pain meds are cut with other analgesics like acetominaphen/ibuprofen etc?

I know that in the U.K. you can get codeine pills that are pure codeine, but most other pills have other medicines that are toxic to the liver/kidneys right?

Oxycontin is just Oxycodone.  So no.

Percocet has Acetaminophen.  So taking an abundance of Percocet would definitely be bad for the body.  Oxycontin and Hydromorphcontin would not be toxic to the organs though.