Levrone up for 500 bench

[rocket]

U are really a fucking moron

I've seen a lot of these pros in person train, mainly dexter the past 8 years when I'm in California

No point even debating with u

U are a hilarious individual, what's so hard to understanding? I'm asking u

Dexter lifted heavy in his younger years, he is nearing 50, u stated dex trained light, he trained heavy during his younger years and backed off the last 10 years for longevity, straight from his mouth he trains smart these days and doesn't lift heavy

Seems like u can't grasp that knowledge, its common sense

I don't give a flying fuck how many professional bodybuilders you have seen train, I can start posting geriatrics doing 1RM of similar or commensurate weights from youtube and it'll take me quite some time to finish.  All those people are doomed in your eyes because you have seen some pros train and what the pros do must be the only way to do things, right?

[rocket]

Funny thing he could just do a random high volume pump workout and get the same results considering his genetic gifts.
Hes already busted up everywhere I dont get the point of doing further unessessary damage.

How do you know that a random high volume pump workout will give him the same results?

His assertion is that the results aren't good enough with something like that but apparently the getbig experts know better

[MAXX]

Funny thing he could just do a random high volume pump workout and get the same results considering his genetic gifts.
Hes already busted up everywhere I dont get the point of doing further unessessary damage.

lol high volume pump 

all Olympias has had in common that they are strong as fuck.

I will say that one rep max probably is not the best thing to do at his age though. About 4 reps for his heaviest working sets should do.

[rocket]

I will say that one rep max probably is not the best thing to do at his age though. About 4 reps for his heaviest working sets should do.

Yet, in the powerlifting world, doing 1RM's from time to time is normal.

[karasan]

Levrone's tolerance to withstand heavy workouts is part of his genetic "gifts"
Francis Benfatto once said, he tried to keep up with Kevin Levrone for a week, and he tore his pec during bench pressing.
He said Levrone was ridicilously strong and using amazing poundages during his training.
So I don't think Levrone is a pump and grow fellow similiar to Paul Dillett.
Muscle memory helps to a degree.

[Explorerspl]

Do you not think that the fact his bench and squat have gone up that it might indicate that his body has improved?

As for the rest of your post.  I do not think that Kevin is doing big 1RM's all the time.  He is at a powerlifting type gym and they would be doing some overload. 

No he has not improved that why he keeps pushing competing back and also why the quad pictures he posts aren't of him standing and don't show his whole body.

[Bevo]

I don't give a flying fuck how many professional bodybuilders you have seen train, I can start posting geriatrics doing 1RM of similar or commensurate weights from youtube and it'll take me quite some time to finish.  All those people are doomed in your eyes because you have seen some pros train and what the pros do must be the only way to do things, right?

Where did I say pros don't train heavy? They all do at some point, with age most change it up

U stated Dexter is a pump set/light weight training individual. I disagreed and said he built his foundation with heavy pressing and lifts and as he aged, he changed up his style of training for longevity and less injuries

I don't know where u are getting this 1rm bs from, I never said anything about that  

Funny how levrone was a pump set/high volume training during his "levrone report" days in 2009ish and yet, he had a great physique then

Thing is levrone likes to lift heavy, that was his whole persona

He can squat 5 plates all day but doesn't look like his legs are coming back

[Bevo]

Levrone's tolerance to withstand heavy workouts is part of his genetic "gifts"
Francis Benfatto once said, he tried to keep up with Kevin Levrone for a week, and he tore his pec during bench pressing.
He said Levrone was ridicilously strong and using amazing poundages during his training.
So I don't think Levrone is a pump and grow fellow similiar to Paul Dillett.
Muscle memory helps to a degree.

Levrone is very gifted for sure esp in strength department, one of the strongest as far as pressing goes

But his biggest gift is being able to withstand heavy cycles and drug usage like many top pros

[bigbychoices]

heavy is relevant. it might be considered heavy for you but not me. or him or them  etc. everyones body is different. so if someone can do a 500 lb bench MAYBE thats not heavy to him. ALTHOUGH COMMON SENSE TELLS US 500 LBS IS PRETTY DAMN HEAVY NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. will light weights and pumping build a body? sure to an extent. look at gymnasts. very well built but cant get bigger because they are limited to the amount of weight they use by their own bodyweight. there isnt any type of progressive overload. so after a while its done building size. you need sometype of progressive overload to build NEW muscle. once you have muscle you can maintain it with lighter weights more pump sets etc. but dont expect to get super huge that way. thats why in the day we all did cycles of heavy workouts for 2 -3 months and then lighter workouts for 2-3 months( especially as a show got close for those who competed) by doing so you got the best of both worlds gave the body time to recover from heavy weights let the joints and tendons etc rest and recover and use lighter weights to keep some size and help recover. some people just push and push with the heavy weights . sloppy form etc thinking all the gotta do is move weight from point a to point b and the will grow no matter how they get it there. lol.  now thats an accident waiting to happen. so yes kevin or anyone else when getting older needs to train smarter not heavier. i for one have a garage filled with nautilus machines and flex and others. i use only machines now. im 53 and im still big and muscular. ive had no injuries because i trained smarter thru the years( not when i was young though lol )

[Bevo]

heavy is relevant. it might be considered heavy for you but not me. or him or them  etc. everyones body is different. so if someone can do a 500 lb bench MAYBE thats not heavy to him. ALTHOUGH COMMON SENSE TELLS US 500 LBS IS PRETTY DAMN HEAVY NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE. will light weights and pumping build a body? sure to an extent. look at gymnasts. very well built but cant get bigger because they are limited to the amount of weight they use by their own bodyweight. there isnt any type of progressive overload. so after a while its done building size. you need sometype of progressive overload to build NEW muscle. once you have muscle you can maintain it with lighter weights more pump sets etc. but dont expect to get super huge that way. thats why in the day we all did cycles of heavy workouts for 2 -3 months and then lighter workouts for 2-3 months( especially as a show got close for those who competed) by doing so you got the best of both worlds gave the body time to recover from heavy weights let the joints and tendons etc rest and recover and use lighter weights to keep some size and help recover. some people just push and push with the heavy weights . sloppy form etc thinking all the gotta do is move weight from point a to point b and the will grow no matter how they get it there. lol.  now thats an accident waiting to happen. so yes kevin or anyone else when getting older needs to train smarter not heavier. i for one have a garage filled with nautilus machines and flex and others. i use only machines now. im 53 and im still big and muscular. ive had no injuries because i trained smarter thru the years( not when i was young though lol )

Yep

Certainly levrone's knees are bothering him, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten plasma injections in them

Like I said training heavy for him is his persona, he loves it, is it the smartest way? I don't think so but hey, he certainly thinks so, so there's that

[rocket]

Right, so to summarise, we will permit Kevin to train heavy.

Order carried out.

[Dave D]

Has anyone suggested that Kevin has injuries because of weight training? Would he have torn his trial if he ran?

[ratherbebig]

i used to belong to the same gym as levrone in maryland, this was mid 90s before he took over, he was just a regular member like the rest of us, he was always wearing this hooded jacket so for about 6 months i didnt know it was him until someone pointed him out and said he was a ifbb pro bodybuilder. he was strong but he never took the weights off after benching or doing leg presses, which to this day pisses me off. also he used to bring his own cd's to the gym with his own music, i guess he loved to hear his own voice but it got very annoying after a while as i prefered to lift to michael jacksons bad album.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I remember reading years ago that Kevin was allegedly one of those 10 anadrol a day guys. And because so he would take long breaks away from training/gear(6months)...You take that kind of anadrol and don't blow your liver apart, all you'll ever want to do is lift heavy.

[odilly]

all valid points, but really high volume training doesn't sell supplements to anyone except broke bodybuilders who probably wont buy into the hype. Putting up huge numbers at 50 sells supplements to all the masses if retired bodybuilder Kevin can go from retired to benching 500lbs in 6 months on Exile just imagine what it can do for you

[Pet shop boys]

Funny thing he could just do a random high volume pump workout and get the same results considering his genetic gifts.
Hes already busted up everywhere I dont get the point of doing further unessessary damage.

The damage he's doing to his joints serve as a good attention seeker on social media (specially teenagers )

"Hey I'm old with no legs but still can train ballz to da wall "  here's me benching 500 lbs in your face !"

 "Hey I'm old with no legs , here's me training high volume pump workout"


See the difference ?



WoooSHHH ITS LEVRO ~NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[NelsonMuntz]

See this is what I'm talking about Nelson.  People also keep posting stuff like you're saying - but it's not based on any science, it's just your opinion based on other people with different bodies and different histories. 

That's fine, but quite a few of them get real fucking defensive when I say "well hold on, where's the proof about what you're saying?" 

It might be true, but I can't find anybody who is actually doing much more than giving their opinion and these same people give no fucks when they read/listen Levrone saying "I've tried to lift moderate, it doesn't work for me".  They know better.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read that.  Stated many times by Levrone.  He definitely tried it last year with his legs.

Even if they started out the same, their bodies were conditioned to respond to completely different stimulus. 

Kevin's physique was not built on light lifting.

Dex's physique was not built on heavy lifting.

Is it really that hard for people to think that some people might respond better (or more specifically, get back to peak condition) to heavier weight than moderate weight for lots of reps?  I mean, we're talking about a lot of variables, here.

Is it really that hard for people to think that maybe, being 50 and that type of person might not be certain doom?

There are fine margins in play, here - these people are drugged to the gills and they are looking for an edge.   If moderate weights is less effective for someone, they're fucked doing moderate weights.  It won't work.

To me, improvement is in the eye of the beholder and the person who is doing it knows what works for them.  You can feel it.  You know when you are on the right path.  Levrone says he has tried moderate weights and it doesn't work for him.  I believe Levrone, not the internet experts

I would bet a little of my money that people that cite moderate weights are more often than not, disciples of that particular way of lifting.  Weight training is full of people who use their own personal experience (or a few other examples) as science.  Basile believes you are in peril if you do heavy deadlifting.. because he tore a bicep doing deadlifting.  Shit like that. 

I am not saying he should not train heavy as much as I am saying he should not be training stupid heavy like he has been. Mark my words he will have a debilitating injury posting while trying one of these lifts..

All my opinion is he should start training heavier in a different way because what he is currently doing is not working like it did years ago. And with all due respect how we trained in our twenties and thirties does and has to change in some ways when we get older. I never thought that was true back at that age, but now in my late forties I have see4n it with not only me but almost everyone I know in that age group. And none of these men and women have stopped training hard or looking good(some are former competitors who are aged 60 plus who look better than probably 90% of the guys on the net loaded to the gills), They still train hard but they train smart for their age.

Sorry to say, but Levrone will find out eventually as will the rest of you and the other people here

[falco]

Levrone is laughing at all the experts in this thread, teaching him how to be tha bess.

[Pet shop boys]

Levrone is laughing at all the experts in this thread, teaching him how to be tha bess.

Specially after finishing dead last at his "BATTLE of the legends" hype.



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  Its not LEVRON bitches

[falco]

At least he is a legend, and was invited to the event. Who here is better than him, bodybuilding wise?

[Shizzo]

Yet, in the powerlifting world, doing 1RM's from time to time is normal.

That is where it also makes the most sense. Powerlifters are going for numbers not looks. Competitive bodybuilders are just risking unnecessary injuries by "ego lifting". These guys need to understand that it is not rocket science.

Seasoned pros aren't going to grow by benching 400 instead of 250, or squatting 600 vs. 400. It's all about tweaking the dosages and compounds.

[Henda]

That is where it also makes the most sense. Powerlifters are going for numbers not looks. Competitive bodybuilders are just risking unnecessary injuries by "ego lifting". These guys need to understand that it is not rocket science.

Seasoned pros aren't going to grow by benching 400 instead of 250, or squatting 600 vs. 400. It's all about tweaking the dosages and compounds.

Silence slug

[Shizzo]

Silence slug

Don't you have some crisps to eat and you wife's arsehole to lick?

[Henda]

Don't you have some crisps to eat and you wife's arsehole to lick?

No, crisp supplies are low till shopping day tomorrow only the garbage flavours are left and licking of the arse hole is only permitted on a Saturday

[Shizzo]

No, crisp supplies are low till shopping day tomorrow only the garbage flavours are left and licking of the arse hole is only permitted on a Saturday

Are your crisps in the Uk, equivalent to potato chips in America?

If so, what are the "chips" in your staple fish and chips meal?