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« Reply #325 on: February 05, 2018, 12:09:28 AM »
You think people can't see what a joke you are?

I make my comments based on actual experience and contribute to discussions. You do not. You troll and ruin every thread you post in.AT 50+ YEARS OLD you do this, and you think people can't see?  You think they can't see you're developmentally disabled? Everything you type is a yeast infection.

If your age is correct you were 22 in 2002, now, does it sound reasonable that a 22 year old kid would be in business with Mexican pharmacies and having Nubain addictions along with every other ailment known to man, seriously mate, its either one or the other, you were a switched on business entrepreneur or a washed up drug addict.
I personally know three people who got hooked on Nubain, their lives went down the toilet.
Your whole life is a contradiction, you were a 6gm a day heroin addict whilst simultaneously hiring PTs , running a gym and training people for 16 hours a day, the things don't go hand in hand, do you get my drift.

Either admit that you are a hopeless addict or that you elaborate the truth to appear cool.

I know which one its more likely to be by the way because you are still getting picked up for DUIs at 37 years of age.

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« Reply #326 on: February 05, 2018, 03:51:28 AM »
If your age is correct you were 22 in 2002, now, does it sound reasonable that a 22 year old kid would be in business with Mexican pharmacies and having Nubain addictions along with every other ailment known to man, seriously mate, its either one or the other, you were a switched on business entrepreneur or a washed up drug addict.
I personally know three people who got hooked on Nubain, their lives went down the toilet.
Your whole life is a contradiction, you were a 6gm a day heroin addict whilst simultaneously hiring PTs , running a gym and training people for 16 hours a day, the things don't go hand in hand, do you get my drift.

Either admit that you are a hopeless addict or that you elaborate the truth to appear cool.

I know which one its more likely to be by the way because you are still getting picked up for DUIs at 37 years of age.

Again, talking about things you know NOTHING about.

You say i couldnt possibly have business arrangements with a Mexican pharmacy at 22 because YOU didn't, couldn't, and cannot do anything of the sort.

Your claim to "personally know" 3 people who's live "went down the toilet" because of Nubain, Then EVERYBODY must have the exact experience.

Same with the heroin use. You seem to claim everybody using heroin must be homeless and beggingnl for change, they can't possibly run s business or 2 or 3 and taken care of obligations.....

You make these statements based on shit you see in movies, with ZERO experience.

YOU can't do it because you have a developmental disability and have never developed the social skills needed to run a business because you would need to interact with other people. Something YOU cannot do and have never been able to do, and you think since YOU cabt do it, surely I can't either.

How the fuck do you think I could afford to pay for the heroin? You fucking dunce. Roughly 1800-1900 a week on top of all my other bills, food, and gas.

If I'm such a "hopeless addict", tell me, in detail, why I've been clean since April 14 2016. I'm curious how that works.

The truth is, you have a developmental disability. A mental handicap that eliminates any possibility of you ever developing social skills and being successful in any career that would require you to interact with other people, but you lie to yourself and say you don't have any friends and don't associate with anybody because you choose not to. When you see somebody like me who actually does shit and has had Life Experiences that you've never had, jealousy takes over and it's easier for you to dismiss whatever it is I say and paint your own version of My Life, then admit your situation. That all through school, you were one of the slow kids. One of the kids who was always by themselves. If you were born 10 years later, you would have been in special ed and taken a short bus to school.

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« Reply #327 on: February 05, 2018, 04:08:49 AM »
Again, talking about things you know NOTHING about.

You say i couldnt possibly have business arrangements with a Mexican pharmacy at 22 because YOU didn't, couldn't, and cannot do anything of the sort.

Your claim to "personally know" 3 people who's live "went down the toilet" because of Nubain, Then EVERYBODY must have the exact experience.

Same with the heroin use. You seem to claim everybody using heroin must be homeless and beggingnl for change, they can't possibly run s business or 2 or 3 and taken care of obligations.....

You make these statements based on shit you see in movies, with ZERO experience.

YOU can't do it because you have a developmental disability and have never developed the social skills needed to run a business because you would need to interact with other people. Something YOU cannot do and have never been able to do, and you think since YOU cabt do it, surely I can't either.

How the fuck do you think I could afford to pay for the heroin? You fucking dunce. Roughly 1800-1900 a week on top of all my other bills, food, and gas.

If I'm such a "hopeless addict", tell me, in detail, why I've been clean since April 14 2016. I'm curious how that works.

The truth is, you have a developmental disability. A mental handicap that eliminates any possibility of you ever developing social skills and being successful in any career that would require you to interact with other people, but you lie to yourself and say you don't have any friends and don't associate with anybody because you choose not to. When you see somebody like me who actually does shit and has had Life Experiences that you've never had, jealousy takes over and it's easier for you to dismiss whatever it is I say and paint your own version of My Life, then admit your situation. That all through school, you were one of the slow kids. One of the kids who was always by themselves. If you were born 10 years later, you would have been in special ed and taken a short bus to school.

Why are you asking me to counter stories that as far as I know have no bearing in reality.

We only have your word about all the nonsense you post.

Sure, you spend $78 k on heroin using 6gms a day and it has no impact on your life and you are able to operate a gym and PT business 16 hours a day , yep that sounds reasonable.
You used Nubain and claim to have got addicted to it yet it had no negative impact on your life?

Which is it, were you addicted to these things or were you a casual user?

anyone using 6gms of Heroin a day would be a shambles, the only way you wouldn't be is if the gear was bunk, and having informed everyone of your 6gms of steroids and the way you look while using it, it looks like you have been someone's mug all your life.
You are the shitty scroat who everyone else laughs at and sells bunk gear because you are so eager to fit in you will accept being shit on.

And yes, you are a hopeless addict, you yourself have posted all the evidence for that, your endless stays in rehab and hospital, your multiple DUIs.
You may be not be hooked on anything at the moment but its simply "a moment of clarity" before the haze descends again.

And as for me having autism, I would choose being Rainman before I had to endure your life.

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Re: Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines
« Reply #328 on: February 05, 2018, 07:28:21 AM »
Jesus Jeff leave it alone who gives a fuck. Why do you let some stranger on the internets get you so upset. You look like a nutcase trying to refute everything. You should permanently retire from here or get a grip. Every thread turns into you two idiots going back and forth for pages.

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« Reply #329 on: February 05, 2018, 07:39:14 AM »
Jesus Jeff leave it alone who gives a fuck. Why do you let some stranger on the internets get you so upset. You look like a nutcase trying to refute everything. You should permanently retire from here or get a grip. Every thread turns into you two idiots going back and forth for pages.

you're right mate, I will leave him alone and just keep my log for my show prep, the guys mentally ill, Im sane, so whos the idiot, yep, me.

I can have his mental delusions, happy reading.

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« Reply #330 on: February 05, 2018, 10:46:09 AM »
only one way to be sure... I must quit the forum myself. god knows what I'll be able to accomplish.

so far... I have been unsuccessful, lol

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Re: Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines
« Reply #331 on: February 05, 2018, 11:02:09 AM »
Why are you asking me to counter stories that as far as I know have no bearing in reality.

We only have your word about all the nonsense you post.

Sure, you spend $78 k on heroin using 6gms a day and it has no impact on your life and you are able to operate a gym and PT business 16 hours a day , yep that sounds reasonable.
You used Nubain and claim to have got addicted to it yet it had no negative impact on your life?

Which is it, were you addicted to these things or were you a casual user?

anyone using 6gms of Heroin a day would be a shambles, the only way you wouldn't be is if the gear was bunk, and having informed everyone of your 6gms of steroids and the way you look while using it, it looks like you have been someone's mug all your life.
You are the shitty scroat who everyone else laughs at and sells bunk gear because you are so eager to fit in you will accept being shit on.

And yes, you are a hopeless addict, you yourself have posted all the evidence for that, your endless stays in rehab and hospital, your multiple DUIs.
You may be not be hooked on anything at the moment but its simply "a moment of clarity" before the haze descends again.

And as for me having autism, I would choose being Rainman before I had to endure your life.

lol you paint your own version of my life that you want to be true so badly.

Now you're claiming I said I wasn't addicted to Nubain and that i said it had no negative impact on my life?

Lol what the fuck is wrong with you? You have a mental defect . Seriously

You also convince yourself that you know what i was taking and when. Saying I claimed to.be using heroin the same time as I was running 4g test snd 2g deca, as if you know better than I what I was on and when.

There's a term for people who use arguments like that... Who completrly change the facts and claim I said things I didn't. Its pathetic. Especially for somebody in their 50s. Even for somebody who mentally handicapped.

And "endless stays in rehab"? Hahaha... Rehab twice in 2016 and a surgery in 2017 from a shot of deca... Prime example of what I just said above. You're like a little girl, gossiping in a middle school cafeteria.


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Their lack of perception will prevent them from recognising when and where is not the right time and place to get into an argument.

They have an inability to gauge possible outcomes, or even think of any consequencies at all. AKA Foot-in-Mouth syndrome. Most people who argue a lot do not think first how the other person will react. If they did stop to think, they often would bite their tongue.

People with aspergers in particular can be exceptionally pedantic and will often argue over subjects that seem important to them, but to everyone else appear to be very petty things.

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I’ve been married to a man for over a decade and I now realize he is very likely an Aspie. All this time I’ve wanted to divorce this odd, argumentative, uncooperative, oppositional, negative, critical, intolerant, emotionally immature , childish and often highly unpleasant man. But I’d stay because he’s brilliant, incredibly talented, versatile, funny, loves animals and science and psychology like I do and I’m dysfunctional and co-dependent anyway. I couldn’t understand why he was so inept at flirting and acted so strange when I’d initiate affection and sex yet he’s a skillful lover once you get past his oddness and initial objections. He would lash out at people and be a jerk and then later his version would have the other person attacking him. He denies saying and doing things. He tries to tell me the problem is not him or his behavior, it’s my perceptions. Why is he so wonderful when he’s good and so horrifying when he’s bad? Then I discovered sites like this one."

Fuck off to an Autisim forum where you can play with people of your own kind.

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Re: Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines
« Reply #332 on: February 05, 2018, 11:12:16 AM »
How do you two combine this posting with paying the bills? Time seems limitless.

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« Reply #333 on: February 05, 2018, 11:28:37 AM »
Jesus Jeff leave it alone who gives a fuck. Why do you let some stranger on the internets get you so upset. You look like a nutcase trying to refute everything. You should permanently retire from here or get a grip. Every thread turns into you two idiots going back and forth for pages.


Yep, no reason for fights here. Unless Sexy Beast post nonsense stuff, like his love for serial killers

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« Reply #334 on: February 05, 2018, 11:31:34 AM »
But I’d stay because he’s brilliant, incredibly talented, versatile, funny, loves animals and science and psychology like I do and I’m dysfunctional and co-dependent anyway.  he’s a skillful lover once you get past his oddness and initial objections.

That couldnt ever be said about you, seems my curse is also my gift... ;)

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« Reply #335 on: February 05, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »
you're right mate, I will leave him alone and just keep my log for my show prep, the guys mentally ill, Im sane, so whos the idiot, yep, me.

I can have his mental delusions, happy reading.

Did you say show prep? what youre running? Is gear legal over the counter in England??

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« Reply #336 on: February 05, 2018, 11:37:53 AM »
Did you say show prep? what youre running? Is gear legal over the counter in England??
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642239.0

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« Reply #337 on: February 05, 2018, 11:40:58 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642239.0
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« Reply #338 on: April 02, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
Yes. DeMayo died of heroin overdose. Prince was supposedly speedballing, shooting coke with the painkillers.

Update on Prince - not so sure about the coke, but he sure liked his opiates...  :o



Experts: Prince toxicology report shows very high drug level

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A toxicology report from Prince’s autopsy, obtained Monday by The Associated Press, shows he had what multiple experts called an “exceedingly high” concentration of fentanyl in his body when he died.

Prince was 57 when he was found alone and unresponsive in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate on April 21, 2016. Public data released six weeks after his death showed he died of an accidental overdose of fentanyl, a synthetic opioid 50 times more powerful than heroin.

A confidential toxicology report obtained by the AP provides some insight into just how much fentanyl was in his system. Experts who are not connected to the Prince investigation said the numbers leave no doubt that fentanyl killed him.

“The amount in his blood is exceedingly high, even for somebody who is a chronic pain patient on fentanyl patches,” said Dr. Lewis Nelson, chairman of emergency medicine at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School. He called the fentanyl concentrations “a pretty clear smoking gun.”

The report says the concentration of fentanyl in Prince’s blood was 67.8 micrograms per liter. The report explains that fatalities have been documented in people with blood levels ranging from three to 58 micrograms per liter.

The report also says the level of fentanyl in Prince’s liver was 450 micrograms per kilogram, and notes that liver concentrations greater than 69 micrograms per kilogram “seem to represent overdose or fatal toxicity cases.”

There was also what experts called a potentially lethal amount of fentanyl in Prince’s stomach. Dr. Charles McKay, president of the American College of Medical Toxicology, said generally speaking, the findings suggest Prince took the drug orally, while fentanyl in the blood and liver suggest it had some time to circulate before he died.

Experts say there is no “lethal level” at which fentanyl can kill. A person who takes prescription opioids for a long time builds up a tolerance, and a dose that could kill one person might help another.

Search warrants released about a year after Prince’s death showed authorities found numerous pills in various containers around his home. A lab report obtained by the AP shows many of the pills tested positive for fentanyl and other drugs. Information that has been released publicly indicates the source of those drugs hasn’t been determined.

Last week, the lead prosecutor in the county where Prince died said in a statement that he was reviewing law enforcement reports and would make a decision on whether to charge anyone “in the near future.”


https://apnews.com/f80bf6952ecf4d02a675b9fac69d7dc6/Experts:-Prince-toxicology-report-shows-very-high-drug-level
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Re: Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines
« Reply #339 on: April 06, 2018, 06:26:19 AM »
Fully aware that they're all 3 CNS depressants.

Looking only for personal experiences.

Thank you.

Yes this is the way to go for overdose!!!

Very dangerous.

It depends on how much shit your body can take but you cant do this mix very long without dieing.

I talk from experience since 21 of my friends are dead now and i was very close myself 7 years ago. Today im in a subutex rehab program. I go 4 times aweek and get 20 mg of subutex aday. That keeps me of the really bad stuff.

I hope you dont do this mix to often because it will kill you bro!

Please give me a pm if you need help.

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« Reply #340 on: April 06, 2018, 11:28:37 AM »
Yes this is the way to go for overdose!!!

Very dangerous.

It depends on how much shit your body can take but you cant do this mix very long without dieing.

I talk from experience since 21 of my friends are dead now and i was very close myself 7 years ago. Today im in a subutex rehab program. I go 4 times aweek and get 20 mg of subutex aday. That keeps me of the really bad stuff.

I hope you dont do this mix to often because it will kill you bro!

Please give me a pm if you need help.


Do you meet any interesting people in rehab?  Maybe people with famous brothers or sisters?  It would be interesting to find out what they were like to friends - or even family...
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« Reply #341 on: April 07, 2018, 07:24:41 AM »
Not really. Its not like i ask people too many questions. I go there four times aweek and get my meds. At random they can ask you to leave a test. One time a month they check your bloodwork for how much alcohol you consume. If levels go to high they kick you out. So its very monitored. Its not just get some shit and leave...
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« Reply #342 on: April 07, 2018, 11:20:45 AM »
Do you meet any interesting people in rehab?  Maybe people with famous brothers or sisters?  It would be interesting to find out what they were like to friends - or even family...

A lot of that depends on where the rehab is.. Los Angeles for example is gonna have more "famous"" or semi-famous people since they won't wanna be to far from "work". Buddy of mine from my 1st rehab had Steve-O as a sponsor. Met him when he came back to the rehab for an "alumni" thing as he'd been through that rehab a few yrs prior. Had to drop him as a sponsor because Steve-o was always to busy and hard to get on the phone (this guy lived in Houston at the time. Insurances will usually want you to go as far as possible from where you live). Another guy had Scott Weiland's brother as a sponsor for a while.

Spend a week in LA going to AA meetings every night, especially in Hollywood or Mailbu (palisades), and you'll run into at least 3 "famous" people.. Usually just there blending in with everybody else. Especially on Friday and Saturday nights, when it's kinda "trendy" and 2/3s people dress up like they're going out to a club, huddled outside blowing huge clouds from their Vapes, the other 1/3 are kids (well, 18-23) are there in regular clothes and bused in with a dozen others from a "treatment facility"(rehab). "Famous" people usually come in early and save a seat and disappear and come back right when the meeting starts. They don't hang out outside with the other 50-200 people sucking on their Vapes.

What this guy's in just sounds like a suboxone program or outpatient rehab.. Maybe even IOP ( intensive outpatient program) where you get like homework and stuff. I remember trying to get into one for methadone before I went to an actual rehab. All you did was show up every morning at 6-7am, stand in line, pay your $22 & get your daily dose and leave... Except there was a 2 or 3 month waiting list. lol. I got a call saying I was accepted the day I was leaving for rehab 6 weeks later.

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« Reply #343 on: April 07, 2018, 11:31:12 AM »
A lot of that depends on where the rehab is.. Los Angeles for example is gonna have more "famous"" or semi-famous people since they won't wanna be to far from "work". Buddy of mine from my 1st rehab had Steve-O as a sponsor. Met him when he came back to the rehab for an "alumni" thing as he'd been through that rehab a few yrs prior. Had to drop him as a sponsor because Steve-o was always to busy and hard to get on the phone (this guy lived in Houston at the time. Insurances will usually want you to go as far as possible from where you live). Another guy had Scott Weiland's brother as a sponsor for a while.

Spend a week in LA going to AA meetings every night, especially in Hollywood or Mailbu (palisades), and you'll run into at least 3 "famous" people.. Usually just there blending in with everybody else. Especially on Friday and Saturday nights, when it's kinda "trendy" and 2/3s people dress up like they're going out to a club, huddled outside blowing huge clouds from their Vapes, the other 1/3 are kids (well, 18-23) are there in regular clothes and bused in with a dozen others from a "treatment facility"(rehab). "Famous" people usually come in early and save a seat and disappear and come back right when the meeting starts. They don't hang out outside with the other 50-200 people sucking on their Vapes.

What this guy's in just sounds like a suboxone program or outpatient rehab.. Maybe even IOP ( intensive outpatient program) where you get like homework and stuff. I remember trying to get into one for methadone before I went to an actual rehab. All you did was show up every morning at 6-7am, stand in line, pay your $22 & get your daily dose and leave... Except there was a 2 or 3 month waiting list. lol. I got a call saying I was accepted the day I was leaving for rehab 6 weeks later.
ya think?

Yes this is the way to go for overdose!!!

Very dangerous.

It depends on how much shit your body can take but you cant do this mix very long without dieing.

I talk from experience since 21 of my friends are dead now and i was very close myself 7 years ago. Today im in a subutex rehab program. I go 4 times aweek and get 20 mg of subutex aday. That keeps me of the really bad stuff.

I hope you dont do this mix to often because it will kill you bro!

Please give me a pm if you need help.



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« Reply #344 on: April 07, 2018, 12:01:45 PM »
ya think?


You're trying to argue and troll what exactly?

Fuck you're pathetic.

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« Reply #345 on: April 07, 2018, 12:47:09 PM »
You're trying to argue and troll what exactly?

Fuck you're pathetic.

I have no intention of arguing with you at all, I was highlighting the fact you didnt read his post before coming to your assumption.




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« Reply #346 on: April 07, 2018, 04:43:09 PM »
Yes this is the way to go for overdose!!!

Very dangerous.

It depends on how much shit your body can take but you cant do this mix very long without dieing.

I talk from experience since 21 of my friends are dead now and i was very close myself 7 years ago. Today im in a subutex rehab program. I go 4 times aweek and get 20 mg of subutex aday. That keeps me of the really bad stuff.

I hope you dont do this mix to often because it will kill you bro!

Please give me a pm if you need help.


Thats allot of subs per day. How much dope/opiates were you doing every day?

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« Reply #347 on: April 07, 2018, 08:02:08 PM »
Not really. Its not like i ask people too many questions. I go there four times aweek and get my meds. At random they can ask you to leave a test. One time a month they check your bloodwork for how much alcohol you consume. If levels go to high they kick you out. So its very monitored. Its not just get some shit and leave...


Have you looked into finding a reg Doc and get a monthly script?  Why not suboxone?

I only ask because I’ve never heard of a subutex clinic, only a methadone clinic.  When I went into treatment in 2011 they gave us subutex twice daily but recommended a suboxone Doc when I was discharged. 

20 mg does sound high but I know every Doc is different.  8 mg was what I was on and I was snorting like 300mg of oxy daily.

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« Reply #348 on: April 07, 2018, 09:50:05 PM »
I have no intention of arguing with you at all, I was highlighting the fact you didnt read his post before coming to your assumption.




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I didn't assume anything.

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« Reply #349 on: April 07, 2018, 09:59:25 PM »

Have you looked into finding a reg Doc and get a monthly script?  Why not suboxone?

I only ask because I’ve never heard of a subutex clinic, only a methadone clinic.  When I went into treatment in 2011 they gave us subutex twice daily but recommended a suboxone Doc when I was discharged. 

20 mg does sound high but I know every Doc is different.  8 mg was what I was on and I was snorting like 300mg of oxy daily.

Some insurance will only cover Subutex instead of suboxone, that's how mine was. Paid out of pocket for suboxone for like 3 or 4 months before the approval finally came from blue shield for Subutex, even with PPO.

20mg isn't too high, at least not starting out. I started at 32mg and stayed at that for about a month before dropping to 24, then 16, then to 8 by the time I was actually in rehab... in rehab they took me down from 8 to 0 in about 10days. lol only fucked up twice and had precipitated withdrawal