Salt Lake detective Jeff Payne - fire him immediately!

[Elvis_McCartney]

More to the story than what everyone sees.  First that shit went on for several hours.  Was the cop right in everything he did, NO.  But  there's a huge difference in their hospital "policy" and the law.

Their policy does not trump the law and in that state the law that is in place is fairly ambiguous and nothing has been clarified about it.  So the cop was more in the right than the nurse (hospital) was. 

Everyone is stating that she had the law on her side.  She did not.  It was just "hospital policy".  Not the law.

She made things much worse by acting like a lunatic.  She could have easily just gone along with the pissed off cop and not osculated the drama.  The cop would have been dealt with eventually.  Both were in the wrong.

it's never plain in black and white even if you think you see everything in video.

[Chadwick The Beta]

Too bad Jessi Slaughter's dad isn't still alive (and I'm not sure if he was saved) ... consequences would never be the same.

[burnout666]

Everyone always takes the White female's side in anything. That's nothing new, and it's the new paradigm in the court system as well. Throw a few amateur cellphone video clips that got leaked to CNN and played for 5 hours straight and the guy better start applying for a name change and a new address. The bloodthirsty masses will hound him until he does.

[SilverSpoon]

See Missouri v. McNeely.

Cop was wrong, unless exigent circumstances existed.

[Parker]

See Missouri v. McNeely.

Cop was wrong, unless exigent circumstances existed.

yep. See people don't know the law, yet are criticizing her. Plus, the guy they wanted to have blood drawn was not even a suspect. He was a victim, he was hit by the suspect and was on fire. He is also a reserve police officer in Idaho. Here is the actually crash that started it all.

http://jalopnik.com/heres-the-explosive-police-chase-and-crash-that-led-to-1798747687

[Dan-O]

More to the story than what everyone sees.  First that shit went on for several hours.  Was the cop right in everything he did, NO.  But  there's a huge difference in their hospital "policy" and the law.

Their policy does not trump the law and in that state the law that is in place is fairly ambiguous and nothing has been clarified about it.  So the cop was more in the right than the nurse (hospital) was. 

Everyone is stating that she had the law on her side.  She did not.  It was just "hospital policy".  Not the law.

She made things much worse by acting like a lunatic.  She could have easily just gone along with the pissed off cop and not osculated the drama.  The cop would have been dealt with eventually.  Both were in the wrong.

it's never plain in black and white even if you think you see everything in video.

Let me also state up front, the cop did not have the law on his side.  BUT there's a reason this story broke a month after it actually happened--I think more of this will come to light as time goes on.   I hear talk that the nurse, Alex Wubbels, offered to keep the story quiet in exchange for a large financial settlement.  When that settlement didn't happen, she broke the story to the media.

[Simple Simon]

Let me also state up front, the cop did not have the law on his side.  BUT there's a reason this story broke a month after it actually happened--I think more of this will come to light as time goes on.   I hear talk that the nurse, Alex Wubbels, offered to keep the story quiet in exchange for a large financial settlement.  When that settlement didn't happen, she broke the story to the media.

and you think theres something wrong with that?

[LurkerNoMore]

Would you hide in the closet as he fucked her?

Would you make room in it if I wanted to?

[Las Vegas]

Would you make room in it if I wanted to?

Thought you'd never ask!

[Las Vegas]

She was protecting her patient.  Looking out for someone who couldn't do it himself.

That's a proper nurse and a very fine human being.

Not even to mention that, if valid reason existed for officer to get blood, he'd have something other than his pushy attitude with him.  He didn't.  Why do you suppose that is?

Nurse = Right, Cop = Wrong

[SF1900]

Two solid police officers

[NaturalWonder83]

Agreed-she couldn't just act sane could she? Had to act like a lunatic-put others in danger and caused panic and stress with her outburst-no sympathy for her

More to the story than what everyone sees.  First that shit went on for several hours.  Was the cop right in everything he did, NO.  But  there's a huge difference in their hospital "policy" and the law.

Their policy does not trump the law and in that state the law that is in place is fairly ambiguous and nothing has been clarified about it.  So the cop was more in the right than the nurse (hospital) was.  

Everyone is stating that she had the law on her side.  She did not.  It was just "hospital policy".  Not the law.

She made things much worse by acting like a lunatic.  She could have easily just gone along with the pissed off cop and not osculated the drama.  The cop would have been dealt with eventually.  Both were in the wrong.

it's never plain in black and white even if you think you see everything in video.

[Eric2]

The first rule of interacting with LE is that giving them an attitude will get you nothing but problems. That's something the Hebrews are still struggling with, hence their massive overrepresentation in the nation's fine institutions of correction and the bloated county jail rolls. That the officer was possibly wrong about hospital policy is beside the point at the time of the interaction; this will be addressed later by his superiors, who'll give him the proper ass-chewing that's coming to him. But challenging a detective in public is really not the right direction to take, especially with the existence of body cams pretty much working in the public's favor by recording everything they used to complain (but be disbelieved) about. Why give them more ammo when you don't have to?

The fact that she was a woman is another factor; women are frequently prone to emotional outbursts when given simple instructions by the police, with disastrous results for both parties.

Here's an example:

Fucking awesome! Pretentious bitch is used to talking down to men like this. Also this bitch new she was wrong and just wanted to get to work. Well she met her match and found a man who did not have to listen to her shit. I bet money there is a male co worker of hers that witnessed that go down and probably ejaculated over her getting her dues. Haha! Bitch!!

[Dan-O]

and you think theres something wrong with that?

Ehh no, not necessarily.  Anyway what I previously reported as a rumor, was not even that--it was just a friend speculating on WHY it took a MONTH for this story to hit the news.

[Disgusted]

He looks like a nice guy. 

[Ron]

Everyone is stating that she had the law on her side.  She did not.  It was just "hospital policy".  Not the law.

No, she was right. It isnt just 'hospital policy'.  It is the law.  


Supreme Court 2016

LEGAL ISSUES AT PLAY?

A 2016 U.S. Supreme Court ruling says a blood sample can't be taken without patient consent or a warrant. But in this case, the officer reportedly believed he had "implied consent" to take the patient's blood. Implied consent assumes that a person with a driver's license has given approval for blood draws, alcohol breath screenings or other tests if there's reason to believe the driver is under the influence.

Paul Cassell, a criminal law professor at the University of Utah's S.J. Quinney College of Law, wrote in an opinion piece for The Salt Lake Tribune that state law doesn't permit a blood draw in this situation — especially since the blood was being sought to prove the patient was not under the influence. Wubbels' attorney, Karra Porter, said the state's implied-consent law "has no relevance in this case whatsoever under anyone's interpretation. ... The officer here admitted on the video and to another officer on the scene that he knew there was no probable cause for a warrant."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nurse-arrested-20170902-story.html



This officer and his superior are screwed, and sadly, in many people's opinion, they have done this crap before and abused their position by arresting people who should not have been arrested.  Once again, FIRE this ass and get him off the police force. 

[Las Vegas]

No no, Ron.  He insists.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

More to the story than what everyone sees.  First that shit went on for several hours.  Was the cop right in everything he did, NO.  But  there's a huge difference in their hospital "policy" and the law.

Their policy does not trump the law and in that state the law that is in place is fairly ambiguous and nothing has been clarified about it.  So the cop was more in the right than the nurse (hospital) was. 

Everyone is stating that she had the law on her side.  She did not.  It was just "hospital policy".  Not the law.

She made things much worse by acting like a lunatic.  She could have easily just gone along with the pissed off cop and not osculated the drama.  The cop would have been dealt with eventually.  Both were in the wrong.

it's never plain in black and white even if you think you see everything in video.

Wrong, she would have lost her nursing license.  The patient was not charged with anything and was not the driver of the vehicle....no grounds for a blood alcohol test. 

[Las Vegas]

Yeah, wrong is wrong.

But it's funny how certain personalities who are cops (or closely related to a cop or cops, or a cop groupie or whatever the issue) simply CANNOT allow themselves to admit when they're beat.  They'll dream up the most ridiculous stuff, trying to defend the indefensible.

Pretty sad and pathetic.

And as for this particular guy, they really must fire him.  He's shown himself to be one who "makes up" his own rules as he goes.  Is there a worse sort of person for that job?  Can't imagine how.

[GymnJuice]

Cop reportedly moonlights as an ambulance driver and threatened to take good patients to other hospitals as retaliation.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/09/02/footage-shows-slc-detective-who-arrested-nurse-saying-hed-take-good-patients-elsewhere/

Detective Jeff Payne told another officer that he works a second job as a paramedic with Gold Cross Ambulance and brings patients to University Hospital, body camera footage obtained by The Salt Lake Tribune shows.
When the other officer tells Payne that the staff at the hospital probably won’t be very happy with him, Payne responds, ”I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere.”

[Straw Man]

Too bad Jessi Slaughter's dad isn't still alive (and I'm not sure if he was saved) ... consequences would never be the same.

you should start some kind of online registry where everyone who is saved can sign up then you won't have to keep asking this question

[Rambone]

Not all police officers are bad guys. Matty was a police officer, and he never flew off the handle like that in his uniform unless he came home and caught Paul from the Wonder Years Louie up all night reading his muscle books.

[Elvis_McCartney]

No, she was right. It isnt just 'hospital policy'.  It is the law.  


Supreme Court 2016

LEGAL ISSUES AT PLAY?

A 2016 U.S. Supreme Court ruling says a blood sample can't be taken without patient consent or a warrant. But in this case, the officer reportedly believed he had "implied consent" to take the patient's blood. Implied consent assumes that a person with a driver's license has given approval for blood draws, alcohol breath screenings or other tests if there's reason to believe the driver is under the influence.

Paul Cassell, a criminal law professor at the University of Utah's S.J. Quinney College of Law, wrote in an opinion piece for The Salt Lake Tribune that state law doesn't permit a blood draw in this situation — especially since the blood was being sought to prove the patient was not under the influence. Wubbels' attorney, Karra Porter, said the state's implied-consent law "has no relevance in this case whatsoever under anyone's interpretation. ... The officer here admitted on the video and to another officer on the scene that he knew there was no probable cause for a warrant."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nurse-arrested-20170902-story.html



This officer and his superior are screwed, and sadly, in many people's opinion, they have done this crap before and abused their position by arresting people who should not have been arrested.  Once again, FIRE this ass and get him off the police force. 

Nope, it's still in play, Ron. FAKE news.  Let's everyone come to the aid of the poor defenseless woman.  People should know anything that's rammed down our throats by the FAKE ASS media isn't what it seems.


In its reporting of this incident, The New York Times falsely claimed that “the United States Supreme Court ruled that the police do not have the right to draw blood in drunk driving investigations without a warrant.”


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/04/arrested-utah-nurse-had-it-coming/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[Las Vegas]

Nope, it's still in play, Ron. FAKE news.  Let's everyone come to the aid of the poor defenseless woman.  People should know anything that's rammed down our throats by the FAKE ASS media isn't what it seems.


In its reporting of this incident, The New York Times falsely claimed that “the United States Supreme Court ruled that the police do not have the right to draw blood in drunk driving investigations without a warrant.”


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/04/arrested-utah-nurse-had-it-coming/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Why did the chief apologize, iyo?

[milone79]

so sick and tired of out of control cops ACAB!!!! Time for the people to stand up!!