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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2017, 05:36:36 AM »

There are examples as such but it's inaccurate to say that all racists are like that. Most aren't. Most racists are unidentifiable and lead ordinary lives and don't seek to mistreat anyone. Every racist I've met has kids, a profession, and behaves and lives ordinarily. They simply want to deal with their own. They might even dislike other kinds. But in the end they simply want to associate with a preferred kind and they don't want to take on other people's problems and they don't expect vice versa.

That's not textbook racism though.  Racism includes discrimination and antagonism toward others based on race.
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2017, 05:37:47 AM »

There are examples as such but it's inaccurate to say that all racists are like that. Most aren't. Most racists are unidentifiable and lead ordinary lives and don't seek to mistreat anyone. Every racist I've met has kids, a profession, and behaves and lives ordinarily. They simply want to deal with their own. They might even dislike other kinds. But in the end they simply want to associate with a preferred kind and they don't want to take on other people's problems and they don't expect vice versa.

Then using the term "racism" is probably an inaccurate term to use and really offers nothing to the conversation (I know you were not the one who originally used the term racist in this thread).

What you're describing is the difference between prejudice (affective state), stereotypes (cognitive state), and discrimination (behavioral state). One can hold a prejudice and stereotype without necessarily engaging in discriminatory acts. One can hold a stereotype without exhibiting prejudice. It sounds like you're saying is that one can hold affective and cognitive viewpoints about race without necessarily engaging in discrimination. I agree with this.

The link between prejudice, stereotype and discrimination is a much more useful discussion to have than just saying "racism" is a good or bad thing.

The question is can one be considered racist on an affective and cognitive level without discriminating?
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2017, 06:21:36 AM »

in America anti-semitism is considered worse than being racist.  say anything negative about the jews in public and the media fucking skewers you.
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2017, 07:11:47 AM »

You can be proud / promoting of your race without practicing racism.

Racism, by definition, is not honorable.

Not when you're born with white skin. That's the point this thread is making: An Indian can say he's proud to be Indian or an Israeli can say the same about himself but White people of Euro-American ancestry are heaped with obloquy for doing the same. Brainwashed by a relentless media and police narrative that we aren't allowed to be proud of our place in the human family. Hence we're racists and proud to be seen as such.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2017, 07:15:32 AM »

in America anti-semitism is considered worse than being racist.  say anything negative about the jews in public and the media fucking skewers you.

That's because the ADL and its copycat agencies monitor interactions between Jews and non Jews on a perennial basis. The moment anyone slips up and criticizes Jews or Israel they get a warning letter demanding an apology or else.

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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2017, 08:56:33 AM »

Not when you're born with white skin. That's the point this thread is making: An Indian can say he's proud to be Indian or an Israeli can say the same about himself but White people of Euro-American ancestry are heaped with obloquy for doing the same. Brainwashed by a relentless media and police narrative that we aren't allowed to be proud of our place in the human family. Hence we're racists and proud to be seen as such.

As stated, racism includes antagonizing those of another race for the sole reason of being from another race.

Whether you're white or not makes no difference.  It's not honorable, no matter how you try to convince yourselves it is.

And I'm not denying the media/ police, etc narratives either.  I'm pointing out the definition of racism, and the entire list of behaviors that fall within the context of it.
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2017, 08:57:03 AM »

Not when you're born with white skin. That's the point this thread is making: An Indian can say he's proud to be Indian or an Israeli can say the same about himself but White people of Euro-American ancestry are heaped with obloquy for doing the same. Brainwashed by a relentless media and police narrative that we aren't allowed to be proud of our place in the human family. Hence we're racists and proud to be seen as such.

no they don't examples of accepted "white pride" parades\festivals we have in nyc

st george's day- england
st patricks day-irish
Portugal Day Parade-portugal
feast of San Gennaro -italian american
yom yerushalayim-israel

do you see the difference now? heritage pride is accepted and celebrated
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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2017, 09:25:08 AM »

howabout being proud of being a getbigger

i bet you suckers deny that too  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2017, 09:26:17 AM »

in America anti-semitism is considered worse than being racist.  say anything negative about the jews in public and the media fucking skewers you.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise"
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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2017, 10:04:27 AM »

I like this thread!


Clearly Elsa Jean is not a racist. She loves black cock. She has the smallest tightest little white whole. And you gotta see that black cock filling her up and giving her a creampie. My god...I am gonna go rub one out right now to some interracial porn.


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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2017, 10:25:45 AM »

The irony is that whites really aren't that great. The median white man is a moron. It's just that blacks, Hispanics and Sand Nigros are so horrible that whites look like Gods gift by comparison.
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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2017, 10:42:05 AM »

The irony is that whites really aren't that great. The median white man is a moron. It's just that blacks, Hispanics and Sand Nigros are so horrible that whites look like Gods gift by comparison.

The median is far better than most of the world! Whites have an average IQ of 100 and if it wasn't for the white man's institutions and inventions and ingenuity, everyone else would be a hell of a lot worse off!
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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2017, 10:48:49 AM »

As stated, racism includes antagonizing those of another race for the sole reason of being from another race.

Whether you're white or not makes no difference.  It's not honorable, no matter how you try to convince yourselves it is.

And I'm not denying the media/ police, etc narratives either.  I'm pointing out the definition of racism, and the entire list of behaviors that fall within the context of it.

By your definition, Native Indian, Latino, and Black organizations are all racist because they want special treatment (at other races' expense) because of what they were born into. So let's agree that we're surrounded by racists but only one group gets flak for it.
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2017, 10:50:06 AM »

no they don't examples of accepted "white pride" parades\festivals we have in nyc

st george's day- england
st patricks day-irish
Portugal Day Parade-portugal
feast of San Gennaro -italian american
yom yerushalayim-israel

do you see the difference now? heritage pride is accepted and celebrated

None of those are White festivals or marches. They're participated in by people of all races and colors. The same does not apply to a Nation of Islam rally, a Black Lives Matter conference, or a pro-illegal immigration demonstration headed by local hispanic community leaders & their dung beatle followers. You can make the same case about the Nazis, KKK, and alt-right - but that's what the world focuses on and gives a free pass to the other groups. Why? They're the same side of the same coin.
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2017, 10:50:16 AM »

The median is far better than most of the world! Whites have an average IQ of 100 and if it wasn't for the white man's institutions and inventions and ingenuity, everyone else would be a hell of a lot worse off!

This

By your definition, Native Indian, Latino, and Black organizations are all racist because they want special treatment (at other races' expense) because of what they were born into. So let's agree that we're surrounded by racists but only one group gets flak for it.

And this
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« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2017, 10:50:35 AM »

I never viewed as being white as some sort of accomplishment. I would rather be judged on the things I can control. There are good and bad people in every race.
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« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2017, 10:52:17 AM »

I never viewed as being white as some sort of accomplishment. I would rather be judged on the things I can control. There are good and bad people in every race.

Correct, and most Whites are with you on that (hence why 'white' rallies are pathetically small and attacked relentlessly by white counterprotesters left and right as well as condemned by the white media). But Blacks and others seem to think being born the race they were is something to broadcast to the world with a bullhorn and a list of demands. Why?
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« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2017, 10:58:27 AM »

By your definition, Native Indian, Latino, and Black organizations are all racist because they want special treatment (at other races' expense) because of what they were born into. So let's agree that we're surrounded by racists but only one group gets flak for it.

My definition is this:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

That doesn't fit what you posted above.  They want special treatment because of what they're born into, by your words.

My original, and current point, is still that antagonizing another man due to his race alone is not honorable.
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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2017, 11:02:13 AM »

My definition is this:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

That doesn't fit what you posted above.  They want special treatment because of what they're born into, by your words.

My original, and current point, is still that antagonizing another man due to his race alone is not honorable.

Antagonism is one criteria for it, sure. No one disagrees. But it's not the only condition that qualifies. Telling someone they need to be Jewish to live in Israel is racist, but it's not antagonistic. Demanding special treatment for your illegal immigrant relatives because Mexico used to be California, when other people wait in line for years for a visa, is also racist, but it's not prejudicial in the sense of someone calling someone a racial slur.

In other words, you're half right. But you're missing the other half of that definition.
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2017, 11:15:06 AM »

The median is far better than most of the world! Whites have an average IQ of 100 and if it wasn't for the white man's institutions and inventions and ingenuity, everyone else would be a hell of a lot worse off!

Based on what, most of what the white man was able to accomplish was due to chinese gunpowder, if the chinese were a bit more aggressive we'd all be having congee for breakfast. As for inventions and ingenuity  algebra is arabic, number theory is iraq(babylon), geometry is egyptian. i'd say differential equations but that's mainly chinese\indian again, with heavy greek roots.
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« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2017, 11:17:52 AM »

Based on what, most of what the white man was able to accomplish was due to chinese gunpowder, if the chinese were a bit more aggressive we'd all be having congee for breakfast. As for inventions and ingenuity  algebra is arabic, number theory is iraq(babylon), geometry is egyptian. i'd say differential equations but that's mainly chinese\indian again, with heavy greek roots.


And those are all valuable inventions or mathematical systems that were indeed invented in antiquity by those ethnic groups. But look at modern creations in art, technology, science...the atomic/hydrogen bomb, modern tanks, automatic weapons, rockets, medical equipment, life-saving drugs. The majority of these came from White countries.
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« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2017, 11:25:12 AM »

Based on what, most of what the white man was able to accomplish was due to chinese gunpowder, if the chinese were a bit more aggressive we'd all be having congee for breakfast. As for inventions and ingenuity  algebra is arabic, number theory is iraq(babylon), geometry is egyptian. i'd say differential equations but that's mainly chinese\indian again, with heavy greek roots.


I did not say other groups didn't develop anything! And much of what the white man axcomplished had nothing to due with the Chinese invention of gunpowder.
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« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2017, 11:29:53 AM »

My definition is this:

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

That doesn't fit what you posted above.  They want special treatment because of what they're born into, by your words.

My original, and current point, is still that antagonizing another man due to his race alone is not honorable.

Getbiggers have become obsessed with race.

Very strange direction the board has taken.

I guess it makes people sleep better at night.

So be it.
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2017, 11:33:55 AM »

Getbiggers have become obsessed with race.

Very strange direction the board has taken.

I guess it makes people sleep better at night.

I don't sleep well at all knowing birthrates are stagnant or declining in most western societies for 1 race while the others are burgeoning or booming. I'm assuming other racially aware Whites aren't too comfortable either when they turn on the TV and see more white under 35s in the Black Lives Matters rallies than blacks. Again, it's only obsessive when we do it; Arabs and Mexicans can go on all day about how hard they have it and how unfair life is to them and no one disagrees or criticises the absurdity of their statements.
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« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2017, 11:35:26 AM »

The median is far better than most of the world! Whites have an average IQ of 100 and if it wasn't for the white man's institutions and inventions and ingenuity, everyone else would be a hell of a lot worse off!


True -- And that's an uncomfortable fact for the loony self hating leftists / blacks / Sand Nigg@rs / etc
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