Tore something in my hamstrings today

[Coach is Back!]

Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?

Can hardly walk right now...

Is it discolored? And since you were running you probably pulled or tore it at the glute/ham tie in?

[Van_Bilderass]

2 years ago, I tore my hammy a bit (real tear - blood under the skin) playing flag football.

Through a combination of ice / heat/ stretching / active release therapy and COMPRESSION was able to play the following week.   I think 24 hour compression is key.

I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".

[Grape Ape]

I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".

Yes, there are articles out there stating that compression is better than ice.   I can't say for sure what method worked (ART may have helped too) but it did.

[Thin Lizzy]

I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".

The rationale behind compression is that by constricting the veins you increase the blood flow velocity. However, while velocity increases the amount of blood doesn’t change because the veins are smaller. So I’m not really sure if I buy it. And it’s hard to prove if it really works because you don’t know how quickly you would’ve healed had you not done it.

[LittleJ]

I agree stretch before you run to the train

[MAXX]

Is it discolored? And since you were running you probably pulled or tore it at the glute/ham tie in?

maybe but the soreness and pain is more in the middle not at the tie in. The rupture is likely in the muscle belly.

zero discoloration actually. Discoloration does not Always happen with tears.

[Simple Simon]

functional muscles of peace...

[Coach is Back!]

maybe but the soreness and pain is more in the middle not at the tie in. The rupture is likely in the muscle belly.

zero discoloration actually. Discoloration does not Always happen with tears.

So it is a rupture?

[LittleJ]

I suggest amputation.

[mac33]

Keep in mind that nerve impingement can cause symptoms similar to muscle or tendon pain and tenderness.

If there is zero bruising, redness or swelling it is a possibility to consider.

[MAXX]

So it is a rupture?

I've had several other tears and it always feels the same. Sudden pop and pull and it gets kind of warm sensation in the muscle. After you can not flex the muscle. So yeah pretty confident in that.

[Coach is Back!]

I've had several other tears and it always feels the same. Sudden pop and pull and it gets kind of warm sensation in the muscle. After you can not flex the muscle. So yeah pretty confident in that.

Short of re-attachment, the usual. Ice/Heat contrast. massage therapy, stim, rest, keep weight off of it, gentle static stretch (when you feel you're ready). After recovery put together a good posterior chain strength program and for awhile avoid isolation-type movements. just my opinion from dealing with this with athletes. If you can get a hold of a Normatec that would be a great addition.

[Coach is Back!]

Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.

Adonis has no clue.

[Thin Lizzy]

Short of re-attachment, the usual. Ice/Heat contrast. massage therapy, stim, rest, keep weight off of it, gentle static stretch (when you feel you're ready). After recovery put together a good posterior chain strength program and for awhile avoid isolation-type movements. just my opinion from dealing with this with athletes. If you can get a hold of a Normatec that would be a great addition.

I’ve heard S&C coaches and physical therapists recommend this but is a lack of strength really the issue here or is it just that he extended it too far too fast at a time when muscle was overly tight?

[Coach is Back!]

I’ve heard S&C coaches and physical therapists recommend this but is a lack of strength really the issue here or is it just that he extended it too far too fast at a time when muscle was overly tight?

Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding

[Thin Lizzy]

.We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding

You ever listen to Rippetoes podcast? He talks a lot about this.

[MAXX]

I dont Think lack of glutes or lack of "functional muscle" was the cause

just lack of flexibility in my hams (suck at stretching) plus the tightness from being sore from alot of deadlifting. That and being cold. It could happen to anyone even professional sprinters under those circumstances..

[Shizzo]

Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding

I pray for Europe.

[The Scott]

Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?

Can hardly walk right now...

Announce you're still going for the Mr. O and sit back and wait for the endorsements to starting pouring in.  Then every few weeks release a video of you incline pressing some ginormous weight but stopping several inches short of your chest.  Don't forget to say dumb shit like "Wasshup peepses?  MAXXaroni in da housss!"  Tour the world on the dime of schmoes while hooking, errrr...hawking your new line of supps and give posing exhibitions at various venues across Schmoetopia all the while changing the size and shape of your cock-sock to keep 'em guessing what's coming at the schmoelympia.

Get injured again just weeks out of the O and announce you'll still be there thanks to your new Pre-Jerkout forumla and that your wheels will be bigger than your main opponents testes.    Enter the O and pose to Kai's favorite music just to show him who is BOSS then shove your middle finger up his left nostril and then out the other.  Pull it out and make him suck his own snot.  Get next to reigning chump Phildo and let loose a leg burning fart on him every time he tries to step over the line.  Inflate your ball sack during the pose down to draw the judges into your corner.  Leg hump Cedric then deflate one of his kids toys on stage while you point at him with your left index finger screaming "IWANCHU!!!" over and over.

Accept your fifth place trophy then shove it up far enough up your butt to make a certain retired bodybuilder and gay porn star envious.  Pull it out and give it to Phildo after you wipe the poo under his ginormous nose.  Dedicate your victory to your dying poodle and then show up at next year's O with a new dog on a new leash.

Either that or just take it easy for a few weeks and do what your doctor tells you to do.

[chess315]

Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding

what's your favorite posterior chain movements coach for a 40yo

[Board_SHERIF]

Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?

Can hardly walk right now...

you sound absolutely vile

[Coach is Back!]

what's your favorite posterior chain movements coach for a 40yo

As long as you can hip-hinge age shouldn’t be a factor. I like most but my favorites are a Uni-lateral RDL or GHR or Bi-lateral GHR, Banded RDL or reverse hyper. Rack Pulls are awesome as well.

[Van_Bilderass]

The rationale behind compression is that by constricting the veins you increase the blood flow velocity. However, while velocity increases the amount of blood doesn’t change because the veins are smaller. So I’m not really sure if I buy it. And it’s hard to prove if it really works because you don’t know how quickly you would’ve healed had you not done it.

I'm not exactly sure I understand that concept you are describing. My understanding was that immediate tight wrapping reduces excessive bleeding and inflammation. So this was an immediate intervention in the first few hours, not a recovery enhancing compression so to speak.
The wrap hurt like hell even though I immediately popped a lot of codeine and diklofenac which a training partner had in his gym bag.

But you're right, hard to say if it actually helped. But I popped the hamstring deadlifting 660lbs - audible tear to my training partners. Leg turned black and blue. I was back to 660+ after a year and now about 3 years later, and a lot stronger, no re-strains, knock on wood. I read that hamstring tears frequently reoccur and many people are never the same.

[CalvinH]

Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?

Can hardly walk right now...

Pfft ,pussy
I've torn my right hammy twice,left hammy once,pulled groin twice,right calf once,left glute once{no homo}
First time I fucked up my groin I went to the doc and he told me to go home because there was nothing he could do.
He just said deal with it until it heals.

[MAXX]

Pfft ,pussy
I've torn my right hammy twice,left hammy once,pulled groin twice,right calf once,left glute once{no homo}
First time I fucked up my groin I went to the doc and he told me to go home because there was nothing he could do.
He just said deal with it until it heals.

I knew that already. They don't want to do anything unless completly detached.