Gord, if we are talking about aesthetics, that got thrown out once Dorian became the Mr. Olympia. Absolutely atrocious symmetry. Haney was the last big man to combine aesthetics, class, and mass. Coleman was close in 1998, 1999, and 2001 Arnold Classic; but if shape and classic physiques are in then Flex should have long ago been Mr. Olympia. Dorian started the large gut, large as you can get syndrome. Ronnie has taken it to another level. If old school shape is in, then Dex or Victor Martinez should win. Hell, give it to Vince Taylor.....he is awesome and stll great at fifty.