the secret to big chest is lower chest

[chuckles]

Well, minus the 'r', Donny

P E D R O ... i give up. maybe you have Paranoid schizophrenia.

[Sexybeast777]

OK but what has that to do with foot position? Do you need to bench? can you build thick pecs without the Bench?

I've tried raising the legs, and felt like a fool, and no, I didn't feel any benefit. and yes I do need the bench, I was not blessed with good chest genetics, so the bench press is an absolute must for me (since it's the exercise that actually worked the best for my chest)

[Sexybeast777]

P E D R O ... i give up. maybe you have Paranoid schizophrenia.

my psychic vibe tells me dropping plates is suffering from depression

[chuckles]

I've tried raising the legs, and felt like a fool, and no, I didn't feel any benefit. and yes I do need the bench, I was not blessed with good chest genetics, so the bench press is an absolute must for me (since it's the exercise that actually worked the best for my chest)

but have you tried alternative exercise & for how long? people try an exercise & say after a short period itīs not working. True you can do an exercise & feel itīs not OK for your body.

[chuckles]

my psychic vibe tells me dropping plates is suffering from depression

seems very obsessed with this Donny Guy. very strange indeed. must really own his mind.

[Sexybeast777]

seems very obsessed with this Donny Guy. very strange indeed. must really own his mind.

we must show compassion, he needs help, poor guy

[chuckles]

we must show compassion, he needs help, poor guy

yes we must be the better man.

[Sexybeast777]

yes we must be the better man.

yes, but at the same time, his cyber bullying had to stop. Idk where you are from, but where I'm from (America) cyber bullying is extremely illegal, and he needed to stop that because it's illegal and wrong

[chuckles]

yes, but at the same time, his cyber bullying had to stop. Idk where you are from, but where I'm from (America) cyber bullying is extremely illegal, and he needed to stop that because it's illegal and wrong

I am Spanish. cyber bullying? how does he get away with this? is there not rules on here? He seems a very nasty guy.

[Sexybeast777]

I am Spanish. cyber bullying? how does he get away with this? is there not rules on here? He seems a very nasty guy.

I forgive him, because he knows not what he's doing

[chuckles]

I forgive him, because he knows not what he's doing

just ignore him. I want to talk Bodybuilding & do not have time for such a schmoe.

[Sexybeast777]

just ignore him. I want to talk Bodybuilding & do not have time for such a schmoe.

ok sir

[chuckles]

ok sir

maybe it's his way of showing interest in you.

[DroppingPlates]

Hey fucktard gimmicks (yes both of you), why not continue this intradesting discussion about chest building secrets?

[jpm101]

No secret..... a large deep rib box gives a chest a foundation to build upon, an extra advantage when adding muscle mass.  Some are born with that deep full rib box, and look impressive even if never working out. Having a somewhat muscular ab area only increases the chest being impressive. If starting young enough, the cartilage between  the ribs/breast bone is still in a elastic state of flux and can be encouraged to expand a bit. Programs of breathing squats pullovers, etc have accomplished this factor quite well.  Depending on the individual, around the age of 22-24 the elastic state of the cartilage begins to set and harden.  Not a case of the rib bones growing (can't do that), a case of the still plastic state of the cartilage stretching/expanding out a bit....if young enough when starting serious training..

Benching hits both the upper and lower pecs, though not in equal proportions, which only insure an unbalanced development. When working the bench, might suggest adjusting different hand spacing to see if you can come up with different results for lower or upper pecs. Seen a few guys use close, middle and wide grips when benching, in a single workout. Usually three sets each grip position.

As mentioned before, lifting the knees up and crossing the ankles give a more focuses affect to the chest area, taking that extra body English, including the legs to a lesser degree, out of the movement. .  Tends to keep the lower back flat on the bench and more focus on the pressing motion of the bench. Seen many pure high volume BB'ers pushing around the 220 to 230 range when benching, with much better size and development than a lot of the 400+ heavier bencher's.

Dips are an excellent exercise for the whole chest area. With serious attention to dips, rather than doing flat benches, many make excellent improvement, where improve has been lacking. or little for years on the pecs. . Even bring the knees up and crossing the ankles (Gironda styes) allows more attention to the whole region.

Good Luck

[chuckles]

Hey fucktard gimmicks (yes both of you), why not continue this intradesting discussion about chest building secrets?

what is your opinion on the press to neck from V Gironda?

[DroppingPlates]

what is your opinion on the press to neck from V Gironda?

The guillotine press? It results in a slightly better stretch, but it fucks up the rotator muscles.

[chuckles]

The guillotine press? It results in a slightly better stretch, but it fucks up the rotator muscles.

ok..so you can be positive.

[Henda]

Why do the mods take this fat stinking cu nts report to mod complaints serious and delete the posts he complains about  known its that sack of shit Shizzos gimmick account? Surely we should be allowed to mock and torment him?

[doggler]

Why do the mods take this fat stinking cu nts report to mod complaints serious and delete the posts he complains about  known its that sack of shit Shizzos gimmick account? Surely we should be allowed to mock and torment him?

 Maybe it's because Shitso is sucking mods cocks.

[DooM_]

No secret..... a large deep rib box gives a chest a foundation to build upon, an extra advantage when adding muscle mass.  Some are born with that deep full rib box, and look impressive even if never working out. Having a somewhat muscular ab area only increases the chest being impressive. If starting young enough, the cartilage between  the ribs/breast bone is still in a elastic state of flux and can be encouraged to expand a bit. Programs of breathing squats pullovers, etc have accomplished this factor quite well.  Depending on the individual, around the age of 22-24 the elastic state of the cartilage begins to set and harden.  Not a case of the rib bones growing (can't do that), a case of the still plastic state of the cartilage stretching/expanding out a bit....if young enough when starting serious training..

Benching hits both the upper and lower pecs, though not in equal proportions, which only insure an unbalanced development. When working the bench, might suggest adjusting different hand spacing to see if you can come up with different results for lower or upper pecs. Seen a few guys use close, middle and wide grips when benching, in a single workout. Usually three sets each grip position.

As mentioned before, lifting the knees up and crossing the ankles give a more focuses affect to the chest area, taking that extra body English, including the legs to a lesser degree, out of the movement. .  Tends to keep the lower back flat on the bench and more focus on the pressing motion of the bench. Seen many pure high volume BB'ers pushing around the 220 to 230 range when benching, with much better size and development than a lot of the 400+ heavier bencher's.

Dips are an excellent exercise for the whole chest area. With serious attention to dips, rather than doing flat benches, many make excellent improvement, where improve has been lacking. or little for years on the pecs. . Even bring the knees up and crossing the ankles (Gironda styes) allows more attention to the whole region.

Good Luck

agree, but pullovers can still benefit at a later age , they stretch the muscles around the ribs and back and loosen tight muscles especially with deep breathing , and will improve posture

[ESFitness]

No secret..... a large deep rib box gives a chest a foundation to build upon, an extra advantage when adding muscle mass.  Some are born with that deep full rib box, and look impressive even if never working out. Having a somewhat muscular ab area only increases the chest being impressive. If starting young enough, the cartilage between  the ribs/breast bone is still in a elastic state of flux and can be encouraged to expand a bit. Programs of breathing squats pullovers, etc have accomplished this factor quite well.  Depending on the individual, around the age of 22-24 the elastic state of the cartilage begins to set and harden.  Not a case of the rib bones growing (can't do that), a case of the still plastic state of the cartilage stretching/expanding out a bit....if young enough when starting serious training..

Benching hits both the upper and lower pecs, though not in equal proportions, which only insure an unbalanced development. When working the bench, might suggest adjusting different hand spacing to see if you can come up with different results for lower or upper pecs. Seen a few guys use close, middle and wide grips when benching, in a single workout. Usually three sets each grip position.

As mentioned before, lifting the knees up and crossing the ankles give a more focuses affect to the chest area, taking that extra body English, including the legs to a lesser degree, out of the movement. .  Tends to keep the lower back flat on the bench and more focus on the pressing motion of the bench. Seen many pure high volume BB'ers pushing around the 220 to 230 range when benching, with much better size and development than a lot of the 400+ heavier bencher's.

Dips are an excellent exercise for the whole chest area. With serious attention to dips, rather than doing flat benches, many make excellent improvement, where improve has been lacking. or little for years on the pecs. . Even bring the knees up and crossing the ankles (Gironda styes) allows more attention to the whole region.

Good Luck

Lifting the legs up so the lower back is flat on the bench takes a whole lofts workload OFF the pecs and shifts it to the anterior delts.

Study some kinesiology.

You want to work just? Think about it... Where are your hands and arms when you flex your chest say, in the mirror for example?

They sure as fuck arnt straight out in front of you. They're down by your lower abdomen or belly button. That is the hand position you need to be near at contraction when training the chest. Doing bench presses with your legs up and your back flat sure as hell doesn't place your hands in that position.

If you want to put as much pressure on the packs as possible, you need a large arch in your back with your feet/toes pressing into the floor, further ensuring you have a sufficient arch in your lower back.

You mentioned dips... When doing dips for chest, you want to lean as far forward as possible. Not straight up & down, which hits triceps and some anterior delts. Look at dips from the side... Where are your hands at full contraction? They're down in line by your belly button, just like youre flexing your chest.

EMG studies have proven decline pressing activates more "upper chest" fibers than incline pressing. Why? (Broscience vs. Real science) Because you're in the best position possible to activate chest fibers throughout the entire movement,& mimicking the body mechanics of when you are flexing chest in the mirror (or on stage). Doing flat bench with a big arch mimics closely a decline press.

I also find it amusing how some guys will talk shit about the decline press, yet praise dips... When looking at both movements from the side, they are pretty goddamn similar.

[Griffith]

Lifting the legs up so the lower back is flat on the bench takes a whole lofts workload OFF the pecs and shifts it to the anterior delts.

Study some kinesiology.

You want to work just? Think about it... Where are your hands and arms when you flex your chest say, in the mirror for example?

They sure as fuck arnt straight out in front of you. They're down by your lower abdomen or belly button. That is the hand position you need to be near at contraction when training the chest. Doing bench presses with your legs up and your back flat sure as hell doesn't place your hands in that position.

If you want to put as much pressure on the packs as possible, you need a large arch in your back with your feet/toes pressing into the floor, further ensuring you have a sufficient arch in your lower back.

You mentioned dips... When doing dips for chest, you want to lean as far forward as possible. Not straight up & down, which hits triceps and some anterior delts. Look at dips from the side... Where are your hands at full contraction? They're down in line by your belly button, just like youre flexing your chest.

EMG studies have proven decline pressing activates more "upper chest" fibers than incline pressing. Why? (Broscience vs. Real science) Because you're in the best position possible to activate chest fibers throughout the entire movement,& mimicking the body mechanics of when you are flexing chest in the mirror (or on stage). Doing flat bench with a big arch mimics closely a decline press.

I also find it amusing how some guys will talk shit about the decline press, yet praise dips... When looking at both movements from the side, they are pretty goddamn similar.

Good post. Agree about the decline press, wish my gym had one now, I started on them when I had a shoulder issue and then stuck with them as my main chest exercise.

[Sexybeast777]

No secret..... a large deep rib box gives a chest a foundation to build upon, an extra advantage when adding muscle mass.  Some are born with that deep full rib box, and look impressive even if never working out. Having a somewhat muscular ab area only increases the chest being impressive. If starting young enough, the cartilage between  the ribs/breast bone is still in a elastic state of flux and can be encouraged to expand a bit. Programs of breathing squats pullovers, etc have accomplished this factor quite well.  Depending on the individual, around the age of 22-24 the elastic state of the cartilage begins to set and harden.  Not a case of the rib bones growing (can't do that), a case of the still plastic state of the cartilage stretching/expanding out a bit....if young enough when starting serious training..

Benching hits both the upper and lower pecs, though not in equal proportions, which only insure an unbalanced development. When working the bench, might suggest adjusting different hand spacing to see if you can come up with different results for lower or upper pecs. Seen a few guys use close, middle and wide grips when benching, in a single workout. Usually three sets each grip position.

As mentioned before, lifting the knees up and crossing the ankles give a more focuses affect to the chest area, taking that extra body English, including the legs to a lesser degree, out of the movement. .  Tends to keep the lower back flat on the bench and more focus on the pressing motion of the bench. Seen many pure high volume BB'ers pushing around the 220 to 230 range when benching, with much better size and development than a lot of the 400+ heavier bencher's.

Dips are an excellent exercise for the whole chest area. With serious attention to dips, rather than doing flat benches, many make excellent improvement, where improve has been lacking. or little for years on the pecs. . Even bring the knees up and crossing the ankles (Gironda styes) allows more attention to the whole region.

Good Luck

I just had one heck of a work out, it was brutal, no pain no gain...I KNOW I will be sore, ha ha, the good kind of soreness, oh, and I was strong (I build my body old school style, huge chest, vacuum pose, huge arms, v=taper, muscular legs but not to the point where they overpower the upper body. Body like Arnold 1975)

[BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT]

Its a known fact that overdeveloping the lower chest attracts older schmoes who will offer big bucks for pec-slapping sessions. Stick with Steve Reeves and Vince Girondas advice on not overdeveloping the lower pecs and just striving for a nice solid lower pec line. And in doing so....one will not attract the pec-slapping fetish queens.