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« Reply #125 on: June 19, 2018, 01:49:21 PM »
LOL! You have a sharp eye, my friend, but spare me the wacky nutritional advice and give me some
hardware construction tips. Like for instance, I keep forgetting the rule about water base and oil base primer and paint. Can you use water base paint over oil base primer? Can you use oil base paint over water base primer. Also, what is your opinion on the tankless water heater. It would seem like a no brainer to me and much better than a tank but I hear both pros and cons. Mostly cons.

One last question: say you had access to any tools you needed as well as any materials and didn't have to worry about permits and all that jazz. Could you get a patch of land and just build your own house from the ground up? Electricity and plumbing and everything. I mean, you can use Mexicans or the Amish to help with the heavy lifting and grunt work but you put everything together yourself. Every nail, every pipe, every wire, every cement block is there because that's where you wanted it.

The easiest answer is to use oil based paint over oil based primer and water based paint over water based primer. White pigmented shellac is a great stain blocker. It can be used with both latex (water based) and oil based paints. I use an appropriate primer over Zinsser white shellac because the primer provided a smoother surface.

Oil based paint (enamel) is more durable than latex paint. It also provides a smoother- flatter finish because it dries more slowly than water based paints, thus it is great to use on millwork.

Oil based paint is used much less often these days because of it's toxicity - VOC's. It has also become more expensive.

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« Reply #126 on: June 19, 2018, 02:35:07 PM »
HOWARD, Get active! Add a pedometer app to your cell phone and catch yourself up on the 10,000 steps a dy routine.

You'll live a lot longer by staying active.

Also eat less.

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« Reply #127 on: June 19, 2018, 03:30:57 PM »
I'm getting back into competing

Not this shit again   ::)

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« Reply #128 on: June 19, 2018, 08:42:40 PM »
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its like putting up photos of your gardener



Posting pics of a complete stranger at work has little meaning or interest to anyone.

You can post pics of strangers all you want on this board but it will garner little interest. Post a pic of yourself doing anything or nothing and you will get a lot of hits. Because you post on this board there is a connection. It's the same reason why you clicked on this thread. Get it?

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« Reply #129 on: June 19, 2018, 08:45:41 PM »
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Look more bad ass with the shorter hair. Just such a hassle getting hair cuts.

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« Reply #130 on: June 19, 2018, 08:48:07 PM »
The easiest answer is to use oil based paint over oil based primer and water based paint over water based primer. White pigmented shellac is a great stain blocker. It can be used with both latex (water based) and oil based paints. I use an appropriate primer over Zinsser white shellac because the primer provided a smoother surface.

Oil based paint (enamel) is more durable than latex paint. It also provides a smoother- flatter finish because it dries more slowly than water based paints, thus it is great to use on millwork.

Oil based paint is used much less often these days because of it's toxicity - VOC's. It has also become more expensive.

We mostly sell Benjamin Moore which is all water base. The only oil base we sell is Rustoleum and the colors are limited. The Zinsser 123 water base primer sells the best by far.

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« Reply #131 on: June 19, 2018, 09:11:20 PM »
I just notice that one of the pics I posted didn't attach. I think I reached the limit. Anyway, this pic
is with one of my close friends there who is really an intelligent and interesting guy. Lives in a nice house walking distance from work and owns a brand new truck and a 2015 Camry. Not rich but lives very
comfortably and goes on cruises once a year and travels to Europe once a year for vacation. He is 70 years old but looked much younger until he just recently grew the beard. The guy is in great shape
and works as a janitor at the store. I don't get it and give him a hard time about it but he use to work in the store and when the custodian position opened up he jumped on that. He just likes getting out of the house, being on his feet not confirmed to one area in the store, and chatting and meeting all the people that come in the store.

I really believe just keeping busy helps you stay young. It gives your body the signal that you need to stay alive. When you just sit around doing nothing, like so many do when retired, like my father did, you give your body the signal that there's no point to stay alive. Being lazy makes you even more lazy.



 

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« Reply #132 on: June 19, 2018, 09:18:03 PM »
I'm getting back into competing and plan on taking a hefty amount of drugs.
I'm too old to win the open, but I might get the Mayor of BB to stalk me.
THEN, I can die happy and get my funeral highlights posted here on getbig.

Howard, what is your typical day like now that you're retired? And please, if possible, spare us the
homo-erotic fantasies  and like. I mean this as a serious question.

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« Reply #133 on: June 19, 2018, 09:27:49 PM »
No wonder you were picked as an Elf!

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« Reply #134 on: June 19, 2018, 09:51:12 PM »
No wonder you were picked as an Elf!

I wasn't an Elf for very long. Due to my ambition, work ethic, and putting in the extra hours
I was quickly promoted to Jedi. I expect to do the same at the hardware store and as soon
as I increase my knowledge and skill set I hope to be accepted into the management trainee
program.

It's all about moving forward while keeping decent arm size.

BTW, I don't think I ever told you but when I do dumbbell curls I always hold the dumbbell so that my thumb is all the way to the side and begin with the plate facing forward. I then supinate my forearm while curling. I've been doing this since I was a teenage when you had to load the plates yourself and I would make one side heavier to increase resistance during the supination. I did this because I noticed when I would make a bicep in front of the mirror how the bicep would lengthen and shorten as I twisted my wrist back and forth. I learned from an early age that supination was definitely involved in bicep contraction. Problem is, as I believe it is with all movements that I consider superior to the standard ones, is that it really doesn't seem to make any real world difference as far as results. Arnold, Boyer Cole, Robby, Beckles all had world class biceps and they never had access to the equipment and knowledge we have today. Mine are still under 16 inches.

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« Reply #135 on: June 20, 2018, 12:36:55 PM »
Strange looking guy. Ever get laid by a pretty girl Pellius? My guess is NO.
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« Reply #136 on: June 20, 2018, 12:44:00 PM »
I just notice that one of the pics I posted didn't attach. I think I reached the limit. Anyway, this pic
is with one of my close friends there who is really an intelligent and interesting guy. Lives in a nice house walking distance from work and owns a brand new truck and a 2015 Camry. Not rich but lives very
comfortably and goes on cruises once a year and travels to Europe once a year for vacation. He is 70 years old but looked much younger until he just recently grew the beard. The guy is in great shape
and works as a janitor at the store. I don't get it and give him a hard time about it but he use to work in the store and when the custodian position opened up he jumped on that. He just likes getting out of the house, being on his feet not confirmed to one area in the store, and chatting and meeting all the people that come in the store.

I really believe just keeping busy helps you stay young. It gives your body the signal that you need to stay alive. When you just sit around doing nothing, like so many do when retired, like my father did, you give your body the signal that there's no point to stay alive. Being lazy makes you even more lazy.



 
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« Reply #137 on: June 20, 2018, 12:46:09 PM »
Epic gh gut, bobble head, dumbo ears, spindly legs and little Caesars haircut.

dont forget junky veiny arms

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« Reply #138 on: June 20, 2018, 01:49:14 PM »
You were shredded back in the day, Pellius, and still are. Great calves too, don't even want to think about my calves  ;D.

Mentzer, Jones, and Schwarzenegger are my idols. Love that era and your input.

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« Reply #139 on: June 20, 2018, 03:04:13 PM »
Strange looking guy. Ever get laid by a pretty girl Pellius? My guess is NO.

Why don't you post a pic of yourself and show us what a guy that gets laid by pretty girls look like?

Yeah, I thought so.

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« Reply #140 on: June 20, 2018, 03:20:27 PM »
Epic gh gut, bobble head, dumbo ears, spindly legs and little Caesars haircut.

Not everyone can be such a perfect specimen like you.



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« Reply #141 on: June 20, 2018, 03:31:28 PM »
We mostly sell Benjamin Moore which is all water base. The only oil base we sell is Rustoleum and the colors are limited. The Zinsser 123 water base primer sells the best by far.

The painter who worked on my most recent home remodel used Benjamin Moore paints. The mill work is painted in semi-gloss Aura. Even the stain for the kitchen island and front door is water based. Unfortunately, his crew brushed the cabinet fronts in the laundry room and it's obvious they didn't know what they were doing because they left brush marks. When brushing water based paints on the trim you have to lay it on in quickly or it gums up and leaves brush marks. Fortunately, all the rest of the trim was sprayed. Someday I'll take the cabinet doors down, sand them smooth and repaint them correctly.

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« Reply #142 on: June 20, 2018, 04:04:10 PM »
The painter who worked on my most recent home remodel used Benjamin Moore paints. The mill work is painted in semi-gloss Aura. Even the stain for the kitchen island and front door is water based. Unfortunately, his crew brushed the cabinet fronts in the laundry room and it's obvious they didn't know what they were doing because they left brush marks. When brushing water based paints on the trim you have to lay it on in quickly or it gums up and leaves brush marks. Fortunately, all the rest of the trim was sprayed. Someday I'll take the cabinet doors down, sand them smooth and repaint them correctly.

We get a lot of complaints about shitty work done by contractors. How come you let them get away with it. If they did a shitty job how come you don't just tell them and insist that they fix it? Why fix it yourself when you paid them to do it?

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« Reply #143 on: June 20, 2018, 04:34:49 PM »
We get a lot of complaints about shitty work done by contractors. How come you let them get away with it. If they did a shitty job how come you don't just tell them and insist that they fix it? Why fix it yourself when you paid them to do it?

I called the painting contractor on his and his crew's sloppy work several times. They'd fix some of it and not other mistakes. This was an ongoing problem with them. The unprofessional work on the cupboard doors was the last straw. I pointed it out to the general contractor who wanted to call the painting contractor back to fix it. I told him I was done with the painter and not to bother calling him. Apparently, I was not the first of the general's customer's to "fire" the painter. This remodel went on for 6 months. I just wanted it over with.

The downstairs bedroom wing is the next and last phase of the remodel. I've put it off for over a year because I wasn't ready for another disruption like the rest of the downstairs was. There are 3 bedrooms and two baths which I'd like to do one at a time to avoid having the whole wing torn up at once. I will likely do the painting myself.

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« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2018, 04:44:25 PM »
I called the painting contractor on his and his crew's sloppy work several times. They'd fix some of it and not other mistakes. This was an ongoing problem with them. The unprofessional work on the cupboard doors was the last straw. I pointed it out to the general contractor who wanted to call the painting contractor back to fix it. I told him I was done with the painter and not to bother calling him. Apparently, I was not the first of the general's customer's to "fire" the painter. This remodel went on for 6 months. I just wanted it over with.

The downstairs bedroom wing is the next and last phase of the remodel. I've put it off for over a year because I wasn't ready for another disruption like the rest of the downstairs was. There are 3 bedrooms and two baths which I'd like to do one at a time to avoid having the whole wing torn up at once. I will likely do the painting myself.


Now with services like Yelp and others it will be harder for these guys, or anybody for that matter, to get away with shoddy work. People just have to speak up more. And they are.

Three bedrooms and two baths? You should sell that place and move to a smaller one and live it up with the big chunk of money you'd get. Seems like a waste rattling around in such a big house.

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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2018, 04:47:10 PM »
The painter who worked on my most recent home remodel used Benjamin Moore paints. The mill work is painted in semi-gloss Aura. Even the stain for the kitchen island and front door is water based. Unfortunately, his crew brushed the cabinet fronts in the laundry room and it's obvious they didn't know what they were doing because they left brush marks. When brushing water based paints on the trim you have to lay it on in quickly or it gums up and leaves brush marks. Fortunately, all the rest of the trim was sprayed. Someday I'll take the cabinet doors down, sand them smooth and repaint them correctly.

I haven't stained or varnished much but latex glosses all suffer from brush marks to at least some degree ime.  There's internet wisdom which recommends adding extenders such as antifreeze but I never wanted to roll those dice.

The last bunch of flush panel doors (doorway doors, not cabinet doors), I just used a 4mm nap microfibre/mohair roller, rolled pretty dry.  :-\  Slight, uniform orange peel beats brush marks, hands down.  Might try a foam roller at some point and see if it's any flatter.  Everyone was happy but I felt I could do better.  It was pretty much the finish I'd get from an airless but I want a fucking mirror.  In water based, guess that's the grail.

Think I'm going to buy a Kremlin air assisted airless.  I always spray trim so want production quantity rather than a pot gun.  Critics say AAA solves a problem which doesn't exist since all you have to do is water down the paint to get it to gel and eliminate spray fingers, but I'm not interested in watering down the paint.  I'm willing to heat it to reduce viscosity but I don't want to fuck with the formulation.  The bond would be fine but it kills the thixotropy and hang, so now you're shooting for lesser coverage to avoid runs and doing another full circuit around.  Also, every pro painter I've spoken to who poo-poos AAA has never used one and is rough as a badger's ass.  Doesn't mean they're wrong but pretty sure I'm going to ignore them since my work is miles better than theirs and I'm not even a 'real painter.'

Did you spend any time with AAA or HVLP in your days, Prime?

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« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2018, 04:51:29 PM »
Now with services like Yelp and others it will be harder for these guys, or anybody for that matter, to get away with shoddy work. People just have to speak up more. And they are.

Three bedrooms and two baths? You should sell that place and move to a smaller one and live it up with the big chunk of money you'd get. Seems like a waste rattling around in such a big house.

You'd think this but I don't know. In a small town, maybe word of mouth would hurt a persons business if they did shoddy work, but I found in a larger city contractors don't care too much because with 80 new people a day moving into the city, there is always a person out there ready to either not do any research or just assume the reviewer was a bad apple. I've written a few negative reviews with specific facts and look back later and there are 20 new reviews, 14 of them negative with the "I should have checked reviews first.." as the lead off sentence. 


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« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2018, 04:56:28 PM »
You'd think this but I don't know. In a small town, maybe word of mouth would hurt a persons business if they did shoddy work, but I found in a larger city contractors don't care too much because with 80 new people a day moving into the city, there is always a person out there ready to either not do any research or just assume the reviewer was a bad apple. I've written a few negative reviews with specific facts and look back later and there are 20 new reviews, 14 of them negative with the "I should have checked reviews first.." as the lead off sentence. 



You have a point there but I think the tide is turning. It took a while for me, say in the last two years, to check up on people or products before I pay a penny. It's easy to do now when you buy things off Amazon and the like. It's definitely saved me from buying bad products.

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« Reply #148 on: June 20, 2018, 05:03:58 PM »
You have a point there but I think the tide is turning. It took a while for me, say in the last two years, to check up on people or products before I pay a penny. It's easy to do now when you buy things off Amazon and the like. It's definitely saved me from buying bad products.

Oh I agree 100% on the Amazon and product thing. Contractors, not so much. For example, we're moving to Florida in the fall. I'm not from this area and want to find a reputable  moving company. A lot of horror stories on long distance moving companies out there and weeding through the reviews, they all sound like there is a good chance it's gonna suck. Seems for every good experience someone has with one of the companies, 3 people have a bad one. You would think moving companies would care what the reviews say but it doesn't seem like it. You have to hire one of them and they are equally crappy  :)

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« Reply #149 on: June 20, 2018, 05:19:38 PM »
You'd think this but I don't know. In a small town, maybe word of mouth would hurt a persons business if they did shoddy work, but I found in a larger city contractors don't care too much because with 80 new people a day moving into the city, there is always a person out there ready to either not do any research or just assume the reviewer was a bad apple. I've written a few negative reviews with specific facts and look back later and there are 20 new reviews, 14 of them negative with the "I should have checked reviews first.." as the lead off sentence.  



Red flag 1: The guy who is billing you isn't the guy doing the work.  Don't hire a trade broker with 'his crew' who aren't tradesmen enough to be out doing their own thing.  I've never seen a crew who work without the contractor present do a good job.  It has never happened.  They will deliver 'good enough' which isn't.

Red flag 2: No trade specific tools or a whole lot of cheapo brand tools.  If you're in the game for real then you have good gear, all of it, and it looks worked.

Red flag 3: They're the cheapest.  I know that the only thing that counts right now is money.  Later, the only thing that will count is quality.  Never ask a contractor to beat the other guy's price.  Once I hear that, I won't even do the job for what I quoted.  Not everyone can afford the Taj Mahal, and that's fine.  Some corners you can cut no problem, some you barely can, and other's you shouldn't ever.  An experienced tradesman knows which are which.  The cheapest guy is probably going to cut them all.  Hire him and you're complicit.

Talk nuts and bolts.  What he proposes to do, where and how.  Timeline.  Materials estimates.  But have your project clearly defined and have this discussion once.  If you don't even know what you want then how the hell am I going to put a price on it? 

Asking for references is fine but don't repeatedly seek assurance that the work will be good quality.  You'll just seem like a fretful nut.  If the guy refuses to do something that will save you money because it's shoddy, that's a good sign.