Questions for John Hansen, Were you ever tempted?

[illuminati]

Did he used before of after his 'natural' titles?

IIRC he claims prior to his “Natural” titles.

[IroNat]

Did he used before of after his 'natural' titles?

Most Natural contests allow prior usage within certain time frames.

For example they might stipulate you can't have used steroids within less than a year of the contest, or two years, etc.

It depends on the organization.

[DroppingPlates]

Most Natural contests allow prior usage within certain time frames.

For example they might stipulate you can't have used steroids within less than a year of the contest, or two years, etc.

It depends on the organization.

Which is pathetic. Once you're start using, more satellite cells will develop in a muscle and they will stay there for the rest of your life.
He might be clean, but he's NOT A NATURAL.

[IroNat]

Which is pathetic. Once you're start using, more satellite cells will develop in a muscle and they will stay there for the rest of your life.
He might be clean, but he's NOT A NATURAL.

He is complying with the rules of the organization so he is not cheating.

There are organizations and contests for those who have never used so if that is what you want you do that.

[DroppingPlates]

He is complying with the rules of the organization so he is not cheating.

There are organizations and contests for those who have never used so if that is what you want you do that.

Which is why 'natural' bodybuilding is a myth...

[IroNat]

Which is why 'natural' bodybuilding is a myth...

As Bill Clinton said, "It all depends what your definition of 'is' is."

[Van_Bilderass]

There has never been any kind of effective
testing in bodybuilding anywhere, anytime. The natural
orgs simply don't have the funds, some use a fucking lie detetector, and when
testing has been implemented, in the IFBB for example, corruption has always been rife and people with money and/or connections have been able to beat their positive tests or are not "randomly" picked out for testing. Anyone involved in the sport knows this. There are some public cases (like the one Milos was involved in) and a ton of less known cases, but since bb is a subjective sport no individual bb dares bring corruption up when they see it.

Natural bodybuilding is for the less successful druggies, it's as simple as that. And if some poor autistic fool with "ideals" does do a show clean there he is looking like an idiot in last place. There are a few like this, who simply don't understand that there is no testing, and even less honor, that it's all bullshit.

Those with experience can look at a body and know, though some fools like Basile need proof as if it was an advanced mathematics or physics question.

[The Scott]

Lying comes naturally to some folk, so it should come as no surprise that a great many competitive bodybuilders are liars.  That's about the only thing "natural" about them.

[Vince B]

There has never been any kind of effective
testing in bodybuilding anywhere, anytime. The natural
orgs simply don't have the funds, some use a fucking lie detetector, and when
testing has been implemented, in the IFBB for example, corruption has always been rife and people with money and/or connections have been able to beat their positive tests or are not "randomly" picked out for testing. Anyone involved in the sport knows this. There are some public cases (like the one Milos was involved in) and a ton of less known cases, but since bb is a subjective sport no individual bb dares bring corruption up when they see it.

Natural bodybuilding is for the less successful druggies, it's as simple as that. And if some poor autistic fool with "ideals" does do a show clean there he is looking like an idiot in last place. There are a few like this, who simply don't understand that there is no testing, and even less honor, that it's all bullshit.

Those with experience can look at a body and know, though some fools like Basile need proof as if it was an advanced mathematics or physics question.

Who do you think you are to say shit like this? I agree that bodybuilding has always been questionable re the judging. The competitors are always sheep and accept whatever bullshit is associated with contests. Doesn't matter if the contests are open or 'tested'.

Jay Cutler tested positive in an Olympia and got off because they didn't use an 'accredited' lab. After that debacle the IFBB saved money and didn't test.

[visualizeperfection]

What is the test of truth here? Hansen is innocent unless someone has evidence showing otherwise. I don't accept opinions re steroid look no matter how expert they claim to be.

I well remember those days back in the sixties and seventies. There we were blasting away and lucky to get 17 1/2 inch cold arms. How on earth could we compete against Sergio and Arnold. Impossible. Almost no one admitted using steroids then because it was cheating.

So what to do in those days? Well, if you wanted to win a national title you didn't have much choice unless you were the rare natural bodybuilder. Those who did use Dianabol kept it to themselves so who could prove otherwise?

You could always just pick your own judges. Cheaper than gear.

[Vince B]

You could always just pick your own judges. Cheaper than gear.

I always advise young bodybuilders to go out and buy their own trophies. In 20 years no one will know anything about such contests.

[Dave D]

I always advise young bodybuilders to go out and buy their own trophies. In 20 years no one will know anything about such contests.

Lol, excellently done.

[JAGO]

John is cool- love his interviews with the greats. So he used for a while and now doesn’t- he admits it. Ok, big deal.

This . . . however, I suspect John is on TRT.

J

[DooM_]

[Bevo]

In Vince Basiles world, it’s possible that Ronnie Coleman is natural since we cannot price he’s not natural.

Yup, sounds about right.

As natural as Monica brants fun bags

[beakdoctor]

I always advise young bodybuilders to go out and buy their own trophies. In 20 years no one will know anything about such contests.

Is that how you got your Mr. Canada trophy?

[Vince B]

Is that how you got your Mr. Canada trophy?

Yep, we were responsible for buying the trophies, too. Missed out on a huge trophy that went to another sport.

[IRON CROSS]

Listen to these dimwits posturing. I can single-handedly dispatch an army of you pathetic losers!

Looks WHO is talking 

[IRON CROSS]

True - That's fair enough I've No issue with him using or not using.

I just Find the "Natural" olympia a thing a joke

Someone who used & didn't get where he wanted goes the "Natural Route" 

Super joke, on Inba Olympia in Australia 1 guy won pro title , then competed again as amateur & took that title 2 

[illuminati]

Super joke, on Inba Olympia in Australia 1 guy won pro title , then competed again as amateur & took that title 2 

Ha ha ha
No doubt it was Protege of Vince B's & likely has never even so much as
taken a Aspirin or Vitamin Pill - He's Super"Natural" 

Still whatever it makes them feel good.
Fooling those that don't know or care.

[Van_Bilderass]

Who do you think you are to say shit like this? I agree that bodybuilding has always been questionable re the judging. The competitors are always sheep and accept whatever bullshit is associated with contests. Doesn't matter if the contests are open or 'tested'.

Jay Cutler tested positive in an Olympia and got off because they didn't use an 'accredited' lab. After that debacle the IFBB saved money and didn't test.

I feel bad for calling you a fool, because you are very intelligent, you probably have a high IQ, much higher than me for sure. But at the same time you are lost on some  level and can't see some things that are obvious to even the much less "intelligent".

I thought of Jay's positive test as well when I wrote that post. I mean wtf, the lab wasn't accredited Lol, that's ridiculous from several angles. Anyway, testing is not effective, even much less so in these small natural organizations. So that leaves personal honor and honesty to police the natural bodybuilders. Now, is it realistic to think the competitors are mostly honorable men that wouldn't cheat out of principle? No, if it was then testing, effective or not, wouldn't be needed in the first place.

[Van_Bilderass]

This . . . however, I suspect John is on TRT.

J

That is actually a question that would be interesting to pose to him, is he on HRT? I don't know what he looks like today but in these old pics he looks like he has absolutely massive natural testosterone production - I mean if he was clean. So it's unlikely he would ever need replacement, unless he injured his balls somehow 

As I recall, he wasn't even opposed to using drugs per se, his problem was the level of drug use he was seeing. IOW, he wasn't seeing enough results from the drugs so promoting himself as a natural still put him in some type of elite category. Otherwise he would just be another gym rat.

[IroNat]

I always advise young bodybuilders to go out and buy their own trophies. In 20 years no one will know anything about such contests.

And forfeit all that prize money?

Nonsense.

[DroppingPlates]

Meanwhile, John is avoiding this thread like a doping test...

[IRON CROSS]

Ha ha ha
No doubt it was Protege of Vince B's & likely has never even so much as
taken a Aspirin or Vitamin Pill - He's Super"Natural" 

Still whatever it makes them feel good.
Fooling those that don't know or care.

SUPER"NATURAL" bb organization exist   

www.snbf.com