Jay Cutler - 45 years old - vs Steeve Reeves

[chrisbro]

Steve trained in York for a short time. Most of his training was in California.

Regarding steroid use you can see the drastic change in the physiques after Dianabol was invented. Users like to justify their use by rationalization saying it's impossible to be a muscular man without the assist because they can't do it.

Reeves was muscular as a young teenager training in a shed in Montana. There are pictures of him at 16 or 15 that look amazing. He was nick named the shape in during his Army service during World War II lifting a 110lbs set in the jungles of the Philippines area. He was muscular his whole life until his health failed him. He was adamantly anti drug use. I can only imagine what he would look like if he dosed on Dianabol like Larry Scott did.

Reeves used a split routine from time to time but for all of his contests he trained the whole body three times a week. Maybe he knew something about what truly is cutting edge training is all about then and now.

What split Routine? don't believe it as i have never heard this. Utter BS. People like Gordon Scott used upper/lower but not Reeves.

[VladimirVersic]

There is no point in comparing in any way, shape or form Jay to Steve.
Steve's bone structure is the best in bodybuilding history.

[IRON CROSS]

Steve Reeves niece was posting on IronAge !.

[Bevo]

                    they made the incline bench esp. for steve it had to be exactly 45 degrees for his db curls

How does it compare to Vince Basille’s bicep curl machine?

[IRON CROSS]

How does it compare to Vince Basille’s bicep curl machine?

 
 

[stuntmovie]

IRON, She also posted here at one time.

[The Scott]

IRON, She also posted here at one time.

As Steve never had children of his own and was an only child (as far as one can tell) I am guessing this must be the niece of one of his three wives.   

[Disco187]

Reeves = more masculine pussy magnet


Cutler = top pro body builder with not best structure.
Prob still running a nice test/GH DOSAGE WITH SOME HARDENING AGENTS YEAR ROUND


Both legends

[Kwon3]

Reeves = more masculine pussy magnet


Cutler = top pro body builder with not best structure.
Prob still running a nice test/GH DOSAGE WITH SOME HARDENING AGENTS YEAR ROUND


Only one is a legend, while the other is less famous than a 2nd-rate NFL player of the same name, has the personality of plywood and couldn't beat prime Ronnie to save his life.

Edited for continuous improvement.

[illuminati]

How does it compare to Vince Basille’s bicep curl machine?

It’s far to simple & uncomplicated to compare with that monstrosity.

[6 Reps]

ILLUMINATE, I also like and appreciate what you said and how you said it in response to my initial Steve Reves comments.

And I agree entirely but to the best of my knowledge and of the times involved and Reeves physque  and his very own personal comments about roid usage within the bodybuilding world, and his apparent honesty  ... I still believe that he was completely natural.

BUT .... I had never known that Steve visited YORK, PA. as mentioned above (Thanks, FUNK .. but are you sure about that?) and to the best of my limited knowledge ... that was the principal US location in which roid use first started.

Bill Starr who passed away recently was once the self appointed and deserving expert on all things YORK,  and has told us many interesting York-day stories which I often suggested that he include in a tell-all book, but as far as I know ... he never did ... unless some of this early day lifting and Bob Hoffman/York stuff was somehow included in Bill's .... ONLY THE STRONG WILL SURVIVE!

But there were no reported sexual shenanigans, so it just might not be of interest to most GetBiggers.

Illuminate, Thanks again. I like the way you expressed yourself.

And I find it difficult to disagree even though I want to

Have never read this book but it always sounded interesting:

[6 Reps]

FUNK, Regarding that photo of Steve and Debbi Reynolds which you posted ....

The set designer placed some flowers on the table and Steve reached over and took part of the flower and started eating it while the camera rolled.

That's how the story goes but it was never mentioned in the script.

I recall one person behind the camera said that it was an orchid.

That was in 1954 and I wasn't present so I can't say it with absolute truthfulness, but it does sound like something Steve would do.

That movie is Athena, which I think is one of the strangest mainstream movies ever made.

On the subject of Steve Reeves and movies, I heard a story once that he turned down the lead in a Fistful Of Dollars.  Reeves thought the idea of an Italian (Sergio Leone) making an American western was a ridiculous idea.  Leone had wanted Reeves for the part because he was the biggest star in Italy at the time.  After turning it down Leone then got Clint Eastwood for the lead role, which made him into the international superstar that he became.  In other words if Reeves had taken the part he might’ve become an even bigger movie star than he already was.

[Kahn.N.Singh]

Just as the animals now speak and the earth gives milk and honey,
so something supernatural also echoes out of him: he feels himself a god;
he himself now moves in as lofty and ecstatic a way as he saw the gods move in his dream.
The man is no longer an artist; he has become a work of art.

Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy (Section 1).

[BSN]

Steve in 1948

[Dokey111]

That movie is Athena, which I think is one of the strangest mainstream movies ever made.

On the subject of Steve Reeves and movies, I heard a story once that he turned down the lead in a Fistful Of Dollars.  Reeves thought the idea of an Italian (Sergio Leone) making an American western was a ridiculous idea.  Leone had wanted Reeves for the part because he was the biggest star in Italy at the time.  After turning it down Leone then got Clint Eastwood for the lead role, which made him into the international superstar that he became.  In other words if Reeves had taken the part he might’ve become an even bigger movie star than he already was.

I always heard that Reeves turned down the role because he wouldn't smoke the trademark cigar - wouldn't even let it touch his lips.

[chrisbro]

Reeves was a Genetic Freak for sure. He had it all.

[IroNat]

That movie is Athena, which I think is one of the strangest mainstream movies ever made.

On the subject of Steve Reeves and movies, I heard a story once that he turned down the lead in a Fistful Of Dollars.  Reeves thought the idea of an Italian (Sergio Leone) making an American western was a ridiculous idea.  Leone had wanted Reeves for the part because he was the biggest star in Italy at the time.  After turning it down Leone then got Clint Eastwood for the lead role, which made him into the international superstar that he became.  In other words if Reeves had taken the part he might’ve become an even bigger movie star than he already was.

He also turned down the role of James Bond in Dr.No.

He admittedly made some bad career moves.

[ratherbebig]

but did he turn down the cock?

[Dokey111]

but did he turn down the cock?

he's dead you'll have to look elsewhere

[chrisbro]

He also turned down the role of James Bond in Dr.No.

He admittedly made some bad career moves.

Sorry but he made the Right decision. He was not a good enough Actor to Play that part. Infact he was never that great really. I even heard they dubbed his voice.

[Griffith]

Sorry but he made the Right decision. He was not a good enough Actor to Play that part. Infact he was never that great really. I even heard they dubbed his voice.

One of the posters on IronAge said he sounded a bit like Clint Eastwood.

[The Scott]

Sorry but he made the Right decision. He was not a good enough Actor to Play that part. Infact he was never that great really. I even heard they dubbed his voice.

That is common practice in the majority of Sword & Sandal flicks.  To hear Reeves real voice, simply watch either the musical "Athena" or the Ed "The Weirdo" Wood film, "Jailbait".  In addition to those two movies, there are several examples of Reeves speaking on television, both Italian TV and American.  Steve Reeves possessed a deep, masculine voice that matched his physique.    He was injured (shoulder) during a scene in the filming of "The Last Days Of Pompei", which which was directed oddly enough, by Sergio Leoni.


Reeves (along with Sophia Loren) became the highest paid actor in Europe, earning approximately $350,000 per film.  He ultimately chose to retire early as he had lost a couple of acting friends (including Tyrone Power) who died very early in their lives.  I have no idea why he chose not to play the role of Leoni's "man with no name" but some say it was because he thought an Italian incapable of directing an American style western.  Regardless, he would have done well with the role but Clint Eastwood did great and owns those pictures completely.


I also think that Reeves lost a lot of money in the DotCom crash in the early 21st Century, but I could be wrong.  He also married for a third time but not much is known about the woman, Deborah Anne Englehorn.  If the photos appearing online of a very young woman and Steve are her, she was much younger than the Shape at the time of their marriage.  Steve's ranch in North San Diego County was sold but I haven't really looked into who the new owner is.   


Steve Reeves is without a doubt the finest example of a truly natural built physique.  Reg Park is up there too and those that think Reg doped need only look at him standing next to Arnold in the Mr. Universe.  Reg is well built but Arnold is...Well, he's Arnold and we all know what that means.  The Oak is the best built man of all time with the caveat that he took AAS.  Without AAS it is definitely Reeves.

[Megalodon]

Reeves speaks:  starts at 00:25...    25 seconds in

[IroNat]

Reg Park is up there too and those that think Reg doped need only look at him standing next to Arnold in the Mr. Universe.  Reg is well built but Arnold is...Well, he's Arnold and we all know what that means.  The Oak is the best built man of all time with the caveat that he took AAS.  Without AAS it is definitely Reeves.

Park was definitely a natural in his early years (late 1940s).

But in his later years?  Not likely.  Here he is at age 43 competing and taking 3rd place against some of the best of all time.  

1971 NABBA Pro Universe...

Sergio (doper), Pearl (doper), Park (?)

[chrisbro]

That is common practice in the majority of Sword & Sandal flicks.  To hear Reeves real voice, simply watch either the musical "Athena" or the Ed "The Weirdo" Wood film, "Jailbait".  In addition to those two movies, there are several examples of Reeves speaking on television, both Italian TV and American.  Steve Reeves possessed a deep, masculine voice that matched his physique.    He was injured (shoulder) during a scene in the filming of "The Last Days Of Pompei", which which was directed oddly enough, by Sergio Leoni.


Reeves (along with Sophia Loren) became the highest paid actor in Europe, earning approximately $350,000 per film.  He ultimately chose to retire early as he had lost a couple of acting friends (including Tyrone Power) who died very early in their lives.  I have no idea why he chose not to play the role of Leoni's "man with no name" but some say it was because he thought an Italian incapable of directing an American style western.  Regardless, he would have done well with the role but Clint Eastwood did great and owns those pictures completely.


I also think that Reeves lost a lot of money in the DotCom crash in the early 21st Century, but I could be wrong.  He also married for a third time but not much is known about the woman, Deborah Anne Englehorn.  If the photos appearing online of a very young woman and Steve are her, she was much younger than the Shape at the time of their marriage.  Steve's ranch in North San Diego County was sold but I haven't really looked into who the new owner is.   


Steve Reeves is without a doubt the finest example of a truly natural built physique.  Reg Park is up there too and those that think Reg doped need only look at him standing next to Arnold in the Mr. Universe.  Reg is well built but Arnold is...Well, he's Arnold and we all know what that means.  The Oak is the best built man of all time with the caveat that he took AAS.  Without AAS it is definitely Reeves.

My Point was he was never a great Actor. James Bond come on