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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2018, 04:58:28 PM »
You weren't bitching about tax dollars when Benghazi was investigated over and over were you?  Not a single indictment came from it either.  Trump will be indicted when its all said and done.  Lucky if he isn't charged with treason.
See, because there was clear proof available to the public and killary and her cronies osama and mueller and comey all covered up for each other. If you want to investigate corruption, real corruption from years of back scratching and secret handjobs in the alley for promotions type corruption, we have to drain the swamp and quite possibly spill some blood in the process. One big reason I support term limits on any and every government job, whether mayor, congress, senate, leader of the cia/fbi/doj/etc.



It came from campaign funds idiot.  You actually believe that lying piece of shit?  You must be the same kind of person.  First Trump said no payment, then he didn't know about a payment, now he said there was a payment, but not from campaign funds.  Why not just say that to begin with if that's the truth?  Because it's not the truth.  He's covering something up. 
You're a bitter, angry little guy. Tell us, exactly how your life has changed for the worse since Trump has taken America to new heights? :D


everyone can settle down

Trump will be fine

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Absolutely right, settle down. Your elected officials aren't even talking about impeachment.

Republicans _ and some Democrats _ reject impeachment talk
 
By LISA MASCARO and STEVE PEOPLES
From Associated Press
August 22, 2018 5:47 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) — The day after President Donald Trump was implicated in a federal crime, members of both parties dismissed talk of impeachment, with some Democrats expressing fears Wednesday about such a politically risky step, and Republicans shrugging off the accusations or withholding judgment.
The legal entanglements surrounding Trump — the guilty plea by former lawyer Michael Cohen and the fraud conviction of one-time campaign chairman Paul Manafort — delivered a one-two punch that left lawmakers struggling for an appropriate response ahead of the midterm campaigns.

Trump's strongest supporters echoed his "no collusion" retorts, suggesting that, absent any evidence that he worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election, there is just no high-crimes-and- misdemeanors case for impeachment.
Democrats, meanwhile, are trying to tamp down expectations from their liberal base of taking on the president for fear that impeachment talk will cause GOP voters to rally around Trump in November.
The dynamic underscored the political difficulty of impeachment proceedings on Capitol Hill, especially for Republicans who have been reluctant to criticize the president but now face a new chapter in what has been a difficult relationship.
In pleading guilty to campaign-finance violations and other crimes Tuesday, Cohen said Trump directed a hush-money scheme before the 2016 election to buy the silence of porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal, both of whom said they had sexual relationships with Trump. Trump has accused Cohen of making up "stories in order to get a 'deal'" from federal prosecutors.
Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell brushed past reporters Wednesday without answering questions about Cohen or the possibility that the lawyer's accusations about an illegal campaign cover-up are grounds for impeachment proceedings. GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan, who is away from Washington, had no direct response. An aide said he needs more information.
Other Republicans, though, filled the gaps.
"No collusion=no impeachment," tweeted the influential radio host Hugh Hewitt, setting the day's tone.
He explained that impeachment is a political and legal term of art and said there needs to be a tipping point in public opinion that would push Congress to act. It's not there yet, he tweeted.
Doug Deason, a Texas-based donor and major Trump supporter, said voters simply don't care that Trump behaves badly at times and has associated with people who broke the law.
"In no way, shape or form did we think we were hiring St. Trump to repair the morals of the country," he said.
Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University and a Trump confidant, said: "Anything short of the campaign actually conspiring with Russia to try to impact the election, anything short of that will just be background noise."
Even those few Republicans who have been willing to speak out about Trump are treading carefully in the wake of Cohen's guilty plea.
"I don't think I've witnessed anything like I've witnessed over the last year and a half. Probably, the American people haven't in modern times," said retiring Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee. But he stopped short of passing further judgment on the Cohen case.
"I'm sure there's going to be other revelations that come up," he said, "and I think we ought to just let the process work."
The president defended the hush-money payments Wednesday, saying, incorrectly, that the effort outlined in Cohen's guilty plea wasn't "even a campaign violation." Trump told Fox News in an interview set to air Thursday that the payments "didn't come out of the campaign, and that's big."
The accusation from Cohen has inflamed public debate about impeachment.
Democratic donor Tom Steyer's Twitter feed called for others to join his campaign to impeach the president. "How much more corruption do we need to see?" he tweeted.
Ben Wikler, Washington director for the liberal advocacy group MoveOn, wants Democrats in Congress to join organizations like his that have been demanding impeachment for weeks.
"Now that Trump's personal lawyer has implicated him in a crime, not supporting impeachment feels like a dodge," Wikler said. "Impeachment doesn't have to be the core of your message to the electorate, but it's not something you can bury your head in the sand and ignore."
But Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi said that unless other information emerges, impeaching Trump is "not a priority" for Democrats if they regain control of the House this fall. Pelosi said she prefers to see Democrats work to ensure special counsel Robert Mueller can finish his investigation.
"If and when the information emerges about that, we'll see," Pelosi said Tuesday as the news about Cohen was unfolding.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer used the developments to press the Democrats' case against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, saying Republicans should hit "pause" on their push toward confirmation.
He expressed concern about Kavanaugh's unwillingness to indict a sitting president, as is Justice Department policy, or subpoena a president to testify. Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing is set for Sept. 4, despite his efforts to postpone it.
"This Republican Congress has done almost nothing to check this president," Schumer said. "We cannot allow the Supreme Court to be captured as well."
Meanwhile, senators of both parties warned that Trump should not consider granting Manafort a pardon. "It would be an enormous mistake and misuse of his power to pardon," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.
The House is on summer break for campaign season. The Senate is in session, trying to wrap up a rare August work period that GOP leaders had hoped would be invigorating. Instead, senators at the Capitol are finding themselves facing questions they often have no answers for.
"That's always been an issue: What did the Founders really mean by high crimes and misdemeanors?" said Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis. "Right now it's in the hands of the courts, and we'll see how it plays out."

Some Republican strategists are privately worried about the party's prospects in November because of the scandals. Democrats see a similar opening in what Schumer has called "a cesspool around this president."
"I think we're beyond the tip of the iceberg. We're in the middle of the iceberg right now, given how many people so close to the president are on their way to jail," said Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut.
"My hope is that Republicans don't retreat into a corner. This is a moment where the future of the presidency is at stake. This isn't about politics or point-scoring, so I'll take my time to come to a conclusion. But I hope Republicans will also be willing to look at the facts and come to a non-political conclusion that's best for the country."
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Associated Press writers Dustin Weaver, Kevin Freking and Padmananda Rama contributed to this report.
Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2018, 06:37:41 PM »
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2018, 09:40:01 PM »
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2018, 10:19:25 AM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey Trumptard - Quick history lesson

We don't have a king in this country

It was one of the most basic premises upon which our country was founded

Not sure how you could not know that

Oh wait, sorry I forgot you are a certified moron

Maybe this will be a better fit for you and the Criminal in Chief

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2018, 11:58:57 AM »
He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2018, 12:04:17 PM »
He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.

you're the one that sees him as a king

I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2018, 04:03:51 PM »
sigh....resorting to insults isn't going to save the president from this one..keep melting

Where’s the insult? I think what he’s referring to is that impeachment is not the same as being thrown out of office, which I don’t believe most know. When they hear impeachment they think gone.

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2018, 04:14:00 PM »
you're the one that sees him as a king

I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit

And Killary as a saint & your saviour no doubt..??

A highly Honourable & Trustworthy individual  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2018, 04:37:14 PM »
I’m sorry, maybe I missed it. What was Trumps crimes again?

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2018, 05:36:03 PM »
I’m sorry, maybe I missed it. What was Trumps crimes again?

Do you want to start with the ones he either admitted or done in public

that would be multiple counts of obstruction and witness intimidation, campaign finance violations

In private we can only speculate at this point but I would guess conspiring with a foreign agent, money laundering and almost certainly more instances of obstruction

Probably much more


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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2018, 05:37:15 PM »
And Killary as a saint & your saviour no doubt..??

A highly Honourable & Trustworthy individual  ::) ::) ::)

only in your delusions

she's a private citizen and I don't have any saints or saviours

that kind of weirdness is more your thing

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2018, 07:27:10 PM »
only in your delusions

she's a private citizen and I don't have any saints or saviours

that kind of weirdness is more your thing


She is now a private citizen thanks to Donald  ;D

She wasn’t when the election was on
Are you going to say now that you didn’t vote for Killary

Are you a Black Man ?
Only your intelligence quotient is on the low side of the Bell Curve.
And they mostly vote democrat.

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2018, 07:31:32 PM »
you're the one that sees him as a king

I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit
I pay almost no attention to Trump, if your liberal media didn't have him on tv or in the news 24/7, I'd forget he was president. You on the other hand, eat, sleep, dream and think about Trump and his massive impact on your life constantly. :-\
TAD much?
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2018, 08:36:45 PM »
Do you want to start with the ones he either admitted or done in public

that would be multiple counts of obstruction and witness intimidation, campaign finance violations

In private we can only speculate at this point but I would guess conspiring with a foreign agent, money laundering and almost certainly more instances of obstruction

Probably much more



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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2018, 08:41:46 PM »

Trump wasn't a politician and has had some hires that were questionable...but then again he had no real party infrastructure so he's running through what he had to chose from and weed out...

If you need a basketball team but only have midgets to chose from....well, then your center is 4'5"...

When you base your candidacy on the idea you are a genius business man who will hire only the best and surround himself with top notch people.. and then you have this sh^t sandwich we are seeing now, you start to think maybe he WILL have a lot of time to play golf if elected  :)

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2018, 08:45:36 PM »
If the Republican Congress put politics aside, Trump won't be President this time next year. I believe things will come out of the Muller investigation that would be detrimental to Trump going forward. It is highly likely given his statements, lack of transparency and his warped moral compass, that he cheated his butt off like his buddies on his finances, taxes and campaign resources.

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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2018, 08:53:26 PM »
If the Republican Congress put politics aside, Trump won't be President this time next year. I believe things will come out of the Muller investigation that would be detrimental to Trump going forward. It is highly likely given his statements, lack of transparency and his warped moral compass, that he cheated his butt off like his buddies on his finances, taxes and campaign resources.

Wait, you think the right is playing politics and the left isn’t? Simple yes or no and then we’ll go from there

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2018, 09:50:43 PM »
Wait, you think the right is playing politics and the left isn’t? Simple yes or no and then we’ll go from there

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2018, 09:25:06 AM »

She is now a private citizen thanks to Donald  ;D

She wasn’t when the election was on
Are you going to say now that you didn’t vote for Killary

Are you a Black Man ?
Only your intelligence quotient is on the low side of the Bell Curve.
And they mostly vote democrat.

Nope, more like thanks to the electoral college

There is no doubt that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes (one of the reasons he was so unpopular on Day 1 of his presidency and just got worse from there)

The fact is that Trump won about 77,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan which enabled him to win those electoral votes

That's how you lose the popular vote by almost 3 million and still become POTUS

https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2018, 10:30:02 AM »
Nope, more like thanks to the electoral college

There is no doubt that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes (one of the reasons he was so unpopular on Day 1 of his presidency and just got worse from there)

The fact is that Trump won about 77,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan which enabled him to win those electoral votes

That's how you lose the popular vote by almost 3 million and still become POTUS

https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated

Those are the rules.

If the rules were the popular vote, campaign strategies, media plans, etc would be entirely different and could yield different results.

Boasting or whining about the popular vote is like saying you lost a baseball game but got more hits.
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2018, 10:41:32 AM »
Those are the rules.

If the rules were the popular vote, campaign strategies, media plans, etc would be entirely different and could yield different results.

Boasting or whining about the popular vote is like saying you lost a baseball game but got more hits.

I'm well aware those are the rules

That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college

Just pointing  out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office

If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2018, 10:48:16 AM »
I'm well aware those are the rules

That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college

Just pointing  out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office

If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote


Hey doper - if it was an popular vote election - trump would have run a different campaign.  All the excess came from the communist cesspools of NYC and LA. 

Hillcunt knew the rules and still lost.  Good job backing such an old decrepit bag of shitte.   

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2018, 10:48:35 AM »
He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.

ROTFLMAO! 8)

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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2018, 11:14:51 AM »
I'm well aware those are the rules

That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college

Just pointing  out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office

If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote


But he won due to his campaign strategies within the rules of the EC, not because of the EC....big difference.

As far as your last comment, I generally don't waste my time with the equivalency argument.....both side do tons of shit, so it's useless.
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Re: Reality has never been so UNFAIR
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2018, 11:41:16 AM »
Hey doper - if it was an popular vote election - trump would have run a different campaign.  All the excess came from the communist cesspools of NYC and LA. 

Hillcunt knew the rules and still lost.  Good job backing such an old decrepit bag of shitte.   

doubtful

he's a one hit wonder and he keeps playing the same stupid song every time he's in a front of a microphone

BTW  - I'm not the one who brought up the election in this thread