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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2018, 10:10:35 AM »
ronnie is the only mr o the managed to cripple himself lifting weights, he has the iq of a rock.  he is dumber than shit and speaks in ebonics. has 18 kids and cant walk

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2018, 11:00:02 AM »
Jumboguts Palumbo is an intelligent dude, but yeah:  he spouts off some really goofy, dumb things at times.

Jumbo dumbo palumbo gumbo has a hard on for Ronnie, palumbo was one of those bbers who would have done anything to turn pro, so his views he’s projecting on others are actually what he himself would have done

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2018, 12:05:17 PM »
Jumbo dumbo palumbo gumbo has a hard on for Ronnie, palumbo was one of those bbers who would have done anything to turn pro, so his views he’s projecting on others are actually what he himself would have done

yes bevo you are right, dave believing that someone would trade places with ronnie is one of the most moronic things ive ever heard, i dont know about you , but i wouldnt want to be a crippled retard with 18 kids,

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2018, 02:36:00 PM »
ronnie is the only mr o the managed to cripple himself lifting weights, he has the iq of a rock.  he is dumber than shit and speaks in ebonics. has 18 kids and cant walk

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2018, 04:01:13 PM »
yes bevo you are right, dave believing that someone would trade places with ronnie is one of the most moronic things ive ever heard, i dont know about you , but i wouldnt want to be a crippled retard with 18 kids,

When I saw him in his new vid driving, having his two young daughters on his lap, wearing no seat belts, tells you all you need to know, that’s sad. One accident and three dead, not very bright and illegal thing to do

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2018, 06:15:19 AM »
X2

HT/M79 who's a good example of great form that lifted insane weight and is in good health?

I don't think Ronnie's form was bad, I think drugs allowed him to go way beyond his physical limitations, like they do for everyone who uses them. Some people are built to withstand the wear and tear better as they are larger framed, like Bill Kasmaier.

Ronnie's body is a wreck because he never allowed it to recover once he damaged it. He is full tilt even today. And there in lies his problem.

Ronnie with "perfect" form would still be a mess today because Ronnie can not stay out of the gym.

I talked with Ed Coan last week and he said Ronnie's back got messed up in part because all his power came from his quads and back. He said Ronnie's hips were not that strong and his back had to take the brunt of the stress when doing squats.

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2018, 08:10:17 AM »
When I saw him in his new vid driving, having his two young daughters on his lap, wearing no seat belts, tells you all you need to know, that’s sad. One accident and three dead, not very bright and illegal thing to do

bevo did you ever notice when ronnie does talk all he talks about his lifting heavy ass weights, i think that is all his small brain can process. if anyone really believes he runs his supplement company they are delusional at best, ronnie cant even walk or wipe his own ass now

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 08:33:26 AM »
When I saw him in his new vid driving, having his two young daughters on his lap, wearing no seat belts, tells you all you need to know, that’s sad. One accident and three dead, not very bright and illegal thing to do
And he was a cop...

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2018, 11:02:44 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2018, 11:45:26 PM »
And he was a cop...

That’s the kicker  ;D


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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2018, 12:06:48 AM »
Drugs can't overcome a constant barrage of max intensity. You can look to something like the old Bulgarian Olympic weightlifting system. Those guys had tremendous technique but also did huge amounts of volume at peak intensity. I forget what their head coach said but it was to the point of he broke x number of bodies to find one or
two champions.

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HT/M79 who's a good example of great form that lifted insane weight and is in good health?

I don't think Ronnie's form was bad, I think drugs allowed him to go way beyond his physical limitations, like they do for everyone who uses them. Some people are built to withstand the wear and tear better as they are larger framed, like Bill Kasmaier.

Ronnie's body is a wreck because he never allowed it to recover once he damaged it. He is full tilt even today. And there in lies his problem.

Ronnie with "perfect" form would still be a mess today because Ronnie can not stay out of the gym.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2018, 12:12:36 AM »
Really thinking about it, Platz is the only one who really comes to mind who floored it in the gym and is kinda sorta ok. He ripped that bicep doing db fly with like 45s. Apart from that, I think maybe shoulder pain but that is everyone who lifts for ages. I kind of feel he is a pure anomaly though. Kevin seemed ok till he decided to come back like a dickhead. Since then he had his knee start rotting apart and according to his ig a "small torm tricep tendon."

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2018, 01:13:43 AM »
Really thinking about it, Platz is the only one who really comes to mind who floored it in the gym and is kinda sorta ok. He ripped that bicep doing db fly with like 45s. Apart from that, I think maybe shoulder pain but that is everyone who lifts for ages. I kind of feel he is a pure anomaly though. Kevin seemed ok till he decided to come back like a dickhead. Since then he had his knee start rotting apart and according to his ig a "small torm tricep tendon."

Platz wasn’t doing 600 to 800 pound squats or 800 pound deadlifts, he also didn’t keep repping 600 pound front squats, get injured, not fully recovered and kept doing it

He also didn’t retire like Ronnie but kept at it even after major surgeries just to do leg press, while his screws broke, which was evidenced by branch Warren

It’s getting to Levrone now as well, but he doesn’t seem to keep pushing at full throttle either, if he does, sooner or later it will result in the same faith. He’s had a pec tear, triceps tears in the past. Now he’s having knee and triceps issues. Age gets the best of you

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2018, 03:07:48 AM »
Drugs can't overcome a constant barrage of max intensity. You can look to something like the old Bulgarian Olympic weightlifting system. Those guys had tremendous technique but also did huge amounts of volume at peak intensity. I forget what their head coach said but it was to the point of he broke x number of bodies to find one or
two champions.

And most of the Bulgarian lifters were wrecked by age 30.  Remember Leo Costa's Bulgarian Power Burst training in the early '90's before his Big Beyond Belief system with Platz on the cover?  Do that program for a month and you will be burned out like never before.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2018, 05:28:13 AM »
Exactly... I also feel these crossfit morons will be paying the piper bigtime in 10-20 years time. All of them doing oly lifts with dreadful form on a constant basis along with all the other impact on a regular basis. Whoever invented stuff like a snatch ladder wants people crippled. Let's take a very technical movement and encourage people to be as loose and sloppy as possible with it multiple times in a couple of minutes... Disrespect the barbell and it will disrespect you...

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2018, 05:34:50 AM »
Platz wasn’t doing 600 to 800 pound squats or 800 pound deadlifts, he also didn’t keep repping 600 pound front squats, get injured, not fully recovered and kept doing it

He also didn’t retire like Ronnie but kept at it even after major surgeries just to do leg press, while his screws broke, which was evidenced by branch Warren

It’s getting to Levrone now as well, but he doesn’t seem to keep pushing at full throttle either, if he does, sooner or later it will result in the same faith. He’s had a pec tear, triceps tears in the past. Now he’s having knee and triceps issues. Age gets the best of you

That is true but platz did go overboard on the intensity and probably was moving similar loads relative to bodyweight/frame and also had some horrific form on some movements like pull ups and hack squats. That said, didn't he also say he rested something like 14 days in between leg days? Kevin is just a moron, he could have promoted his crap and looked good on high trt dosages and smart training.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2018, 01:39:05 PM »
Platz wasn’t doing 600 to 800 pound squats or 800 pound deadlifts, he also didn’t keep repping 600 pound front squats, get injured, not fully recovered and kept doing it


Platz lifted very heavy


I cant find any other videos but Im sure if he's repping out 5 plates for 20+ reps he's no stranger to heavier weights

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2018, 08:12:49 AM »
Posted about it before. Laminectomy and discectomy on lower back. I was in the hospital for 2 days, couldn’t poop to save my life so I couldn’t go home. Recovery was a bitch. Didn’t fix too much. Ended up getting stem cells and decompression therapy. That has been working.
Mostly cause by being a maxing out dumbass with shitty form. Working out again for a while. I avoid anything that puts direct pressure on spine. I don’t max out. And I been working core and doing yoga, yes very beta.  

Very smart. After many years of herniating discs (one 2 weeks ago that is just feeling better) its time to make some changes. No compression. No heavy DL's or Squats.
I tried some belt squats and they felt real good, zero compression (it actually pulled a bit and decompressed while doing them).

Wife was doing DL's w/ 135 this AM, so I just did that w/ her. I will do belt squats again tomorrow on leg day. HTexan, Im going to Google this (decompression therapy) to see what it is,t hanks for the tip.
Ben using my inversion table now that I am able to again (couldnt get in it for 2 weeks from injury/pain) but started back on it this AM...

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2018, 08:14:37 AM »
Platz lifted very heavy


I cant find any other videos but Im sure if he's repping out 5 plates for 20+ reps he's no stranger to heavier weights


Cry baby Kaz is saying Platz used fake weights in that video. If anyone knows Kaz, you know he's a bit of a jealous, butt-hurt, self loving bully.
But who knows...

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Re: Ronnie question
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2018, 08:14:57 AM »
Very smart. After many years of herniating discs (one 2 weeks ago that is just feeling better) its time to make some changes. No compression. No heavy DL's or Squats.
I tried some belt squats and they felt real good, zero compression (it actually pulled a bit and decompressed while doing them).

Wife was doing DL's w/ 135 this AM, so I just did that w/ her. I will do belt squats again tomorrow on leg day. HTexan, Im going to Google this (decompression therapy) to see what it is,t hanks for the tip.
Ben using my inversion table now that I am able to again (couldnt get in it for 2 weeks from injury/pain) but started back on it this AM...
Yeah man, inversion table is a god sent.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2018, 08:36:34 AM »
Platz lifted very heavy


I cant find any other videos but Im sure if he's repping out 5 plates for 20+ reps he's no stranger to heavier weights


Yeah but Ronnie was still working out hard with screws in his back after countless surgeries, they broke while he was doing leg presses. Even while in crutches he limped to the gym, is that dedication or pure idiotic?

He further damaged himself 11 years removed from his last O appearance, that’s the point I’m trying to make


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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2018, 08:52:03 AM »
Yeah but Ronnie was still working out hard with screws in his back after countless surgeries, they broke while he was doing leg presses. Even while in crutches he limped to the gym, is that dedication or pure idiotic?

He further damaged himself 11 years removed from his last O appearance, that’s the point I’m trying to make



bevo i think ronnie is both dumb and a attention whore. did you know when ronnie goes to a funeral hes jealous because he isnt the one in the coffin getting all the attention

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2018, 10:19:07 AM »
Cry baby Kaz is saying Platz used fake weights in that video. If anyone knows Kaz, you know he's a bit of a jealous, butt-hurt, self loving bully.
But who knows...

Kaz is completely full of shit...

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2018, 04:01:59 PM »
bevo i think ronnie is both dumb and a attention whore. did you know when ronnie goes to a funeral hes jealous because he isnt the one in the coffin getting all the attention

If he wants to be in one real bad, he’s on the right track  :D

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - Question - Why supinate the grip?
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2018, 05:50:54 PM »
With all the painkillers he is probably on, do you really think he thinks about most anything?