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Re: Jimi Hendrix- Vastly overrated
« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2018, 03:17:06 PM »
Hmm wonder why modern drummer interviewed Prince?

https://www.moderndrummer.com/2005/10/prince-2/


"MD sat down with the musical genius before the soundcheck for his recent performance in Hartford, Connecticut. Prince was relaxed, thoughtful, and happy to talk drums."

"Prince: Sometimes not at all. I always record the drums first’that’s real important. I like to record fast. Sometimes the mic’s aren’t perfectly placed or the tuning isn’t right. It’s just a feel thing. One of my strengths is, when I’m playing it all myself, I can make it sound like a total band when I’m done."


Mr white great point why would md interview prince if he couldn’t play the drums

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« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2018, 03:54:36 PM »
Hmm wonder why modern drummer interviewed Prince?

https://www.moderndrummer.com/2005/10/prince-2/


"MD sat down with the musical genius before the soundcheck for his recent performance in Hartford, Connecticut. Prince was relaxed, thoughtful, and happy to talk drums."

"Prince: Sometimes not at all. I always record the drums first’that’s real important. I like to record fast. Sometimes the mic’s aren’t perfectly placed or the tuning isn’t right. It’s just a feel thing. One of my strengths is, when I’m playing it all myself, I can make it sound like a total band when I’m done."

Modern Drummer is in the business of selling magazines and making money from advertisers. Prince is not a drummer. Hence, his use of the Linn drum machine.

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« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2018, 04:54:56 PM »
Stevie Wonder is the man when it comes to playing all the instruments on a song. He grew up as a Motown artist and got lessons from all of those musicians.

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« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2018, 05:01:24 PM »
Mr white great point why would md interview prince if he couldn’t play the drums
https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/october-2012-dennis-wilson/
Here's the same rag with an article about Dennis Wilson. You really take MD seriously??

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« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2018, 05:22:51 PM »
https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/october-2012-dennis-wilson/
Here's the same rag with an article about Dennis Wilson. You really take MD seriously??

Ok, I know you are an idiot, but I will expend the energy regardless to address your stupid, almost kindergarten posts..

I watched a clinic recently put on by what YOU would consider a 1st class drummer. He addressed the very thing you are trying in your caveman like style to bring up. In his case, he addressed morons saying that Ringo Starr was not a good drummer. He played some popular songs by the Beetles and then he demonstrated how a top notch 1st class drummer would play those songs.. and they sucked. the point he was making is that the genius in their drumming was that they played not to their particular strengths, they played exactly what the song needed. Trying to imagine most beetles songs with any other drum beat is stupid. CCR.. Doug Clifford was not the most technically savvy drummer. I can play his drum parts note for note.. BUT.. the genius of providing exactly what the song needed is the key. So.. Dennis Wilson.... I agree, there are better drummers. I also agree with every drum critic that he did exactly what those songs needed. Now I don't expect you Brian, or whoever you are, to really understand that.. so I will put it in lesser terms.. AC/DC... Tons can out drum  Phill Rudd on the drums,, But Phil played exactly what was needed. That's what makes them famous... Do you kind of get it? a little?

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« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2018, 05:26:32 PM »
Ok, I know you are an idiot, but I will expend the energy regardless to address your stupid, almost kindergarten posts..

I watched a clinic recently put on by what YOU would consider a 1st class drummer. He addressed the very thing you are trying in your caveman like style to bring up. In his case, he addressed morons saying that Ringo Starr was not a good drummer. He played some popular songs by the Beetles and then he demonstrated how a top notch 1st class drummer would play those songs.. and they sucked. the point he was making is that the genius in their drumming was that they played not to their particular strengths, they played exactly what the song needed. Trying to imagine most beetles songs with any other drum beat is stupid. CCR.. Doug Clifford was not the most technically savvy drummer. I can play his drum parts note for note.. BUT.. the genius of providing exactly what the song needed is the key. So.. Dennis Wilson.... I agree, there are better drummers. I also agree with every drum critic that he did exactly what those songs needed. Now I don't expect you Brian, or whoever you are, to really understand that.. so I will put it in lesser terms.. AC/DC... Tons can out drum  Phill Rudd on the drums,, But Phil played exactly what was needed. That's what makes them famous... Do you kind of get it? a little?
Prince was not a drummer. And "Beatles" is spelled with an "a".

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« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2018, 05:31:40 PM »
Prince was not a drummer. And "Beatles" is spelled with an "a".

And you are a moron.. anything else?

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« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2018, 05:35:02 PM »
And you are a moron.. anything else?
Yes, Dennis Wilson didn't play the drums. It was Hal Blaine and Jim Gordon, you dipshit.

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« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2018, 05:35:39 PM »
Hmm wonder why modern drummer interviewed Prince?

https://www.moderndrummer.com/2005/10/prince-2/


"MD sat down with the musical genius before the soundcheck for his recent performance in Hartford, Connecticut. Prince was relaxed, thoughtful, and happy to talk drums."

"Prince: Sometimes not at all. I always record the drums first’that’s real important. I like to record fast. Sometimes the mic’s aren’t perfectly placed or the tuning isn’t right. It’s just a feel thing. One of my strengths is, when I’m playing it all myself, I can make it sound like a total band when I’m done."


Because Modern Drummer, like a majority of print mags, is struggling to stay afloat. Magazines feature whoever can attract buyers. In this case, the editors saw a catch with a household name who they could loosely tag into the issue.

“Yeah, Prince owns a drum kit!”

It’s like when a guitar magazine features some wonky guitar hack merely because he’s in a currently-selling group or whatever.

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« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2018, 05:38:05 PM »
Yes, Dennis Wilson didn't play the drums. It was Hal Blaine and Jim Gordon, you dipshit.

This is true.


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« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2018, 07:37:45 PM »
Yes, Dennis Wilson didn't play the drums. It was Hal Blaine and Jim Gordon, you dipshit.

Dennis Wilson was the REAL Beach Boy: the Beach Boy who was actually racing hot rod, surfing and banging chicks by the score before he was a rock star (and he was a rock star by age 15.) . He was Brian Wilson’s chief muse. Those songs were very much about the nerdy Gershwin-geek Brian Wilson fantasizing that he was his handsome wild brother who was living the myths that Wilson spun on records.

His raspy baritone voice brought a wild (sometimes flat) rock and roll element to the Beach Boys vocal blend, which in itself is an instantly recognizable and absolutely inimitable sound.

AS a drummer, while he will never go down in any top ten lists — drums were not his primary instrument, he was a pianist, primarily— in the early days he wasn’t bad. You can look at live performances on youtube and see for youself that he was a spirited and energetic rock drummer who kept time well and generally played what was right for the song — and the parts that Brian Wilson wrote were by no means always just a four on the floor simple beat. He played drums on these well-known Beach Boys singles.

“ “Surfin’ Safari/409”
“Shut Down”
"Surfer Girl/Little Deuce Coupe”
“Be True To Your School/In My Room”
“Little Saint Nick”
“Fun, Fun, Fun”
“I Get Around/Don’t Worry Baby”
“When I GRow Up (To Be a Man)/She Knows Me Too Well”
“Dance Dance Dance/The Warmth of the Sun”
“She’s So Good to Me”
“Girl Don’t Tell Me”
“Wild HOney”
“Do It Again”
“I Can Hear Music”
“Rock and Roll Music”
“Honkin’ Down the Highway”
“Good Timin’”
On some of those songs (“Fun, Fun, Fun” and “I get Around”) there were two drummers, Hal Blaine and Dennis, and of course Blaine or Frankie Capp or Jim Gordon played on most of their baroque pop masterpieces like Pet Sounds, SMiLE and Friends.

Dude did enough to make it..... and you?

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« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2018, 07:38:37 PM »
This is true.



You really need to stick to white supremacy, the things you really know about  and leave the music to us

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« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2018, 07:46:13 PM »
Dennis Wilson was the REAL Beach Boy: the Beach Boy who was actually racing hot rod, surfing and banging chicks by the score before he was a rock star (and he was a rock star by age 15.) . He was Brian Wilson’s chief muse. Those songs were very much about the nerdy Gershwin-geek Brian Wilson fantasizing that he was his handsome wild brother who was living the myths that Wilson spun on records.

His raspy baritone voice brought a wild (sometimes flat) rock and roll element to the Beach Boys vocal blend, which in itself is an instantly recognizable and absolutely inimitable sound.

AS a drummer, while he will never go down in any top ten lists — drums were not his primary instrument, he was a pianist, primarily— in the early days he wasn’t bad. You can look at live performances on youtube and see for youself that he was a spirited and energetic rock drummer who kept time well and generally played what was right for the song — and the parts that Brian Wilson wrote were by no means always just a four on the floor simple beat. He played drums on these well-known Beach Boys singles.

“ “Surfin’ Safari/409”
“Shut Down”
"Surfer Girl/Little Deuce Coupe”
“Be True To Your School/In My Room”
“Little Saint Nick”
“Fun, Fun, Fun”
“I Get Around/Don’t Worry Baby”
“When I GRow Up (To Be a Man)/She Knows Me Too Well”
“Dance Dance Dance/The Warmth of the Sun”
“She’s So Good to Me”
“Girl Don’t Tell Me”
“Wild HOney”
“Do It Again”
“I Can Hear Music”
“Rock and Roll Music”
“Honkin’ Down the Highway”
“Good Timin’”
On some of those songs (“Fun, Fun, Fun” and “I get Around”) there were two drummers, Hal Blaine and Dennis, and of course Blaine or Frankie Capp or Jim Gordon played on most of their baroque pop masterpieces like Pet Sounds, SMiLE and Friends.

Dude did enough to make it..... and you?
Hal Blaine played drums on nearly all those songs. Dennis Wilson played on none of them. Hope this helps.

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Re: Jimi Hendrix- Vastly overrated
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2018, 08:00:08 PM »
You really need to stick to white supremacy, the things you really know about  and leave the music to us

I’m going off what Glen Campbell and Steve Lukather (reading a signed copy of his book right now) say.

My knowledge of music is vast, thank you very much.

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« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2018, 08:42:23 PM »
I’m going off what Glen Campbell and Steve Lukather (reading a signed copy of his book right now) say.

My knowledge of music is vast, thank you very much.

A little in Accurate but  vast

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« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2018, 09:19:01 AM »
Because Modern Drummer, like a majority of print mags, is struggling to stay afloat. Magazines feature whoever can attract buyers. In this case, the editors saw a catch with a household name who they could loosely tag into the issue.

“Yeah, Prince owns a drum kit!”

It’s like when a guitar magazine features some wonky guitar hack merely because he’s in a currently-selling group or whatever.

I don't think they were struggling in 2005.

Prince on drums:









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« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2018, 09:25:02 AM »
Modern Drummer is in the business of selling magazines and making money from advertisers. Prince is not a drummer. Hence, his use of the Linn drum machine.

His first 2 albums were recorded in the 70's.  :D

By the time he started using the LM1 he already had a band, including drummer Bobby Z.  :P


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« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2018, 10:22:32 AM »
His first 2 albums were recorded in the 70's.  :D

By the time he started using the LM1 he already had a band, including drummer Bobby Z.  :P



Evidence Prince couldn't play drums - "Because I say so"

Not a very compelling argument considering the evidence he could..

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« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2018, 10:58:43 AM »
Evidence Prince couldn't play drums - "Because I say so"

Not a very compelling argument considering the evidence he could..
Evidence he can't play is demonstrated in the above video.

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« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2018, 11:18:24 AM »
Evidence he can't play is demonstrated in the above video.

No. Try again

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« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2018, 11:25:36 AM »
No. Try again
No need to try again . Prince was not a drummer.

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« Reply #96 on: November 27, 2018, 03:30:15 AM »
Santana o Hendrix who was better ?

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« Reply #97 on: November 27, 2018, 04:01:59 AM »
Santana o Hendrix who was better ?
Both were novelty acts. Neither one were real musicians.

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« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2018, 05:27:18 AM »
Both were novelty acts. Neither one were real musicians.


Would have been something if they had jammed together a little. Wonder if they ever met?   both had respect for all music, and were very mature, cool guys. Santana needs to get back to his roots.


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« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2018, 09:20:43 PM »

Would have been something if they had jammed together a little. Wonder if they ever met?   both had respect for all music, and were very mature, cool guys. Santana needs to get back to his roots.


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


You know he jammed with Hendrix at Woodstock?