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« on: December 10, 2018, 11:32:48 PM »

I am currently using 120 mcg per day, but my shredding progress is far far behind my expectation.  If two weeks remaining, what can i do or any fast track?  My coach said conditioning is not very important...
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2018, 12:02:30 AM »

120? Heart attack waiting to happen
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 01:43:44 AM »

I am currently using 120 mcg per day, but my shredding progress is far far behind my expectation.  If two weeks remaining, what can i do or any fast track?  My coach said conditioning is not very important...
Zero carbs, nicotine gum, dnp, and fasted cardio.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 05:25:08 AM »

How about you concentrate on your family and employment? Give up the drug life. Buying syringes and vials out of the trunk of some shady character's car trunk in the gym parking lot is no path to being a man. If you so badly need compliments on how you look like a muscle "man" when juicing then your insecurities is your problem. When you get your priorities in order you should concentrate on cardio like running until your health returns.  Then months after start lifting again.  Do what you want in the end. The majority of you guys end up with nothing but a folded crumpled up picture of how you looked in the past when you were on the supplements. The problem with showing your picture is that people can look at the real you as they look at the marvel that you temporarily achieved on film.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 07:16:22 AM »

How about you concentrate on your family and employment? Give up the drug life. Buying syringes and vials out of the trunk of some shady character's car trunk in the gym parking lot is no path to being a man. If you so badly need compliments on how you look like a muscle "man" when juicing then your insecurities is your problem. When you get your priorities in order you should concentrate on cardio like running until your health returns.  Then months after start lifting again.  Do what you want in the end. The majority of you guys end up with nothing but a folded crumpled up picture of how you looked in the past when you were on the supplements. The problem with showing your picture is that people can look at the real you as they look at the marvel that you temporarily achieved on film.

Heís not going to listen to anyone
Itís just another silly gimmick account. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2018, 07:21:47 AM »

Heís not going to listen to anyone
Itís just another silly gimmick account. Roll Eyes

This. I hope he triples the dosage.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2018, 08:37:27 AM »

Not sure where I got this, so don't know who to credit.

Might make a good sticky.


What is Clenbuterol?


Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a bronchodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of its long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

As far as side effects, there is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.


Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein (1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb (0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet (0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.


Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
stack may be a better choice because of its much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.


Precautions:


The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine.
These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

A word on Ketotifen

Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.

Cycling Clenbuterol

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.


Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2018, 07:14:30 PM »

why attack me?  i just ask for advice..
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2018, 07:26:04 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2018, 01:35:30 PM »

If you are having problems loosing the fat you need to maybe you should focus on a new nutrition and cardio plan? Plenty of people can get shredded without illegal fat burners so it is not impossible. If your gonna use something like clen it is not a magic pill and if you do not see the results you like do not just keep raising the dosage and adding other drugs in. Just really clean up your diet and maybe look into new cardio exercises to shock your body. One thing I noticed a lot through out bodybuilding was confusing water wieght with fat so make sure to get a body fat test.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 09:47:17 AM »

T3 and clenn for myself works only like there supposed to when diet is on check, for example starting clenn when outline of abs are visible.


I ran both compounds years ago with to high body fat and basically all I did was sweet and shake and looked like shit.

Iíve gone up to 120micro grams , on a taper . 6 weeks total , itís a person to person thing. Iím used to stims from years of coffee, ephedrine back in the day and past cocaine use on a Friday . Would definitely not recommend 120 for a newbie with stims
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 01:26:28 AM »

How about you concentrate on your family and employment? Give up the drug life. Buying syringes and vials out of the trunk of some shady character's car trunk in the gym parking lot is no path to being a man. If you so badly need compliments on how you look like a muscle "man" when juicing then your insecurities is your problem. When you get your priorities in order you should concentrate on cardio like running until your health returns.  Then months after start lifting again.  Do what you want in the end. The majority of you guys end up with nothing but a folded crumpled up picture of how you looked in the past when you were on the supplements. The problem with showing your picture is that people can look at the real you as they look at the marvel that you temporarily achieved on film.

He doesn't even lift.
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2018, 10:16:03 AM »

Best cut cycle.  Tren, hgh, Clen and T3.  Once you get this going the weight drops so fast.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 09:27:03 PM »

Best cut cycle.  Tren, hgh, Clen and T3.  Once you get this going the weight drops so fast.

Yeah, practically melts off.
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