Trump and Draft

[Agnostic007]

Wasn’t Blumenthal, a lib that was claiming he was in Vietnam when actually it was proven that he lied about his service. I believe they call that Stolen Valor. How come no mention of that, hypocrites?

Reading comprehension wasn't your forte was it

[Agnostic007]

Trumpster is Boss.

Deal with it.

He’s not perfect, but his heart is in the right place, and he loves his country and the west.

MAGA!

No, his heart is in the wrong place. Look up narcissist

[Agnostic007]

Donald Trump could have been Ho Chi Mihn's right hand man in Vietnam and still I wouldn't care.

Vietnam was a shitty pointless war and draft dodgers like Muhammad Ali are big hero's to the left.  Trump should be cheered for this..............if it's even true.

This says all I need to know about you

[Coach is Back!]

What the hell are you talking about?

Didn’t think you heard about it. Carry on

[Agnostic007]

A war like Vietnam? I’d have dodged the draft, too.

That shit’s none of my business, you know?

You really didnt have to say that. From your post we assumed

[Agnostic007]

well the majority of what's posted here is "opinion". that's kind of how a message board works.

and how do you think your vet friend would feel about trump's avoidance?

one guy point blank refuses to go and risks prison for his beliefs. the other guy gets a sick note...then to top it off he slags off another guy that actually did serve and has medals for his valour.

whatever way you chop it up, trump shows himself to be a POS at nearly every turn.

true

[Agnostic007]

Where did Clinton serve? Which branch should I thank Obama for serving in?

Post a quote of Obama bagging on POW's

[Agnostic007]

Didn’t think you heard about it. Carry on

Stick to conditioning..

[Coach is Back!]

Post a quote of Obama bagging on POW's

You mean giving them a stand down order to not fire back even if fired upon wasn’t enough?

[Coach is Back!]

Stick to conditioning..

Stick to facts

[Agnostic007]

Stick to facts

facts are alien to you

[Agnostic007]

Stick to facts

Did Trump Dogde the draft? Since you are a fact guy?

[Coach is Back!]

Did Trump Dogde the draft? Since you are a fact guy?

Did Blumenthal lie about Vietnam? How about John Kerry? Did Obama give a standdown order to the military that put them in harms way? We know these to be FACTS and we don’t even need to go back 50 years to prove it.

[Dave D]

ali's avoidance was probably a bit more honourable than trump's. he didn't go and get himself a sick note. he made a public stand and was prepared to go to prison for it.

tbf some of the things ali is recorded as saying at the time and about vietnam, show he had a great deal of wisdom and was well ahead of his time.

No question what Ali did was more honorable but the point is both he and Trump avoided going to the war and in hindsight they made the correct decision.


Ali was a black Muslim in 64 Trump was a rich white kid. Ali used his drafting to make a statement, Trump used his resources to stay home.

Both made the correct decision by avoiding the war.

[chaos]

Post a quote of Obama bagging on POW's

Post a link of Trump giving Iran hundreds of millions of US tax dollars.

[Agnostic007]

Post a link of Trump giving Iran hundreds of millions of US tax dollars.

Oh be quiet until you figure out the conversation

[Coach is Back!]

Oh be quite until you figure out the conversation

*skate

[pellius]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/

WASHINGTON – Two daughters of a New York podiatrist say that 50 years ago their father diagnosed President Donald Trump with bone spurs in his heels as a favor to the doctor's landlord, Fred Trump, The New York Times reported Wednesday.

Trump received five deferments from the draft for military service during the Vietnam War. He received four education deferments while he was a college student and a fifth deferment in 1968 for a medical exemption after he graduated.

Larry Braunstein, who died in 2007, rented a ground floor office in a building owned by Trump in Jamaica, Queens. His daughters, Elysa Braunstein, 56, and Sharon Kessel, 53, told the Times that their father's role in Trump's diagnosis had become "family lore."

"It was something we would always discuss," Elysa Braunstein told the Times. She and her sister are both Democrats who oppose Trump, according to the newspaper.

Elysa Braunstein said their father made the diagnosis to gain access to the landlord and that she didn't know if her father even examined the junior Trump. 

"I know it was a favor," Elysa Braunstein said.

"What he got was access to Fred Trump," she told the Times. "If there was anything wrong in the building, my dad would call and Trump would take care of it immediately. That was the small favor that he got."

The women did not offer any documentation to back up their claims. They said their father's story also involved a second podiatrist, Manny Weinstein, who died in 1995. Weinstein's landlord was also Fred Trump.

The White House did not make Trump available for a follow-up interview to the New York Times and did not respond to written questions about his service record.

In October, the Times reported on how much Fred Trump helped his son through the years, giving him what today would be more than $410 million.

Worse case scenario is that Donald Trump used his connections to avoid going to war.

When you are rich or connected, or both, you will always get breaks that others don't. Hawaii is very clique-ish. The overwhelming majority get the government jobs because they know someone or are related to someone already in.

I wish life was fair. It's not. That sucks.

[Agnostic007]

*skate

that hurt your head

[Agnostic007]

Worse case scenario is that Donald Trump used his connections to avoid going to war.

When you are rich or connected, or both, you will always get breaks that others don't. Hawaii is very clique-ish. The overwhelming majority get the government jobs because they know someone or are related to someone already in.

I wish life was fair. It's not. That sucks.

And when you become President, those privileges might come back to haunt you... which is kind of fair

[chaos]

Oh be quiet until you figure out the conversation

What does "bagging on a POW" have to do with Trump and the draft? Guess it's ok when you want to change topics huh, hypocrite.

[pellius]

And when you become President, those privileges might come back to haunt you... which is kind of fair

Not really. Name one president whose privileged life has hurt them. Just to be the president means that you are connected. Even Clinton, who was probably the only modern President to come from humble beginnings, was a Rhodes Scholar and went to Yale.

CNN and MSNBC can lead with this story for a week and it will have zero effect.

[Agnostic007]

What does "bagging on a POW" have to do with Trump and the draft? Guess it's ok when you want to change topics huh, hypocrite.

really?

[Irongrip400]

Agnostic, there’s a feature when posting that says “insert quote” where you can scroll down and do a bunch in one post instead of just arbitrarily running up your post count. 

[pellius]

What does "bagging on a POW" have to do with Trump and the draft? Guess it's ok when you want to change topics huh, hypocrite.

It may be bad form to say he prefers his soldiers not to get captured. But so do I. So does the soldier.

People don't seem to understand that those that support Trump do so because of his stand on issues: taxes, immigration, military not because he's politically incorrect.