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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2020, 06:33:10 AM »
Losing money is a downer for me.

I never got interested in gambling in casinos or even playing poker.

Not into bowling either.

I did used to make bets while playing golf but just small change.

I'm very cautious about getting into addictive pursuits. 

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2020, 08:30:12 AM »
You will never hear a gambler say they lose, ever.

I go to Vegas quite a bit, which is the only place I gamble. I'm definitely down over the many years but I'm good with losing a bit and taking my comps everywhere.  Love the temporary action and adrenaline of playing big hands. The ROI is there for me


This is why you keep a log of all of your betting activities.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy and any other delusions.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2020, 08:32:57 AM »
You will never hear a gambler say they lose, ever.

I go to Vegas quite a bit, which is the only place I gamble. I'm definitely down over the many years but I'm good with losing a bit and taking my comps everywhere.  Love the temporary action and adrenaline of playing big hands. The ROI is there for me



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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2020, 12:18:37 PM »
This is why you keep a log of all of your betting activities.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy and any other delusions.

Exactly,I write down every day I go.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2020, 12:37:48 PM »
When I play blackjack I count cards but not perfectly but it does give me an edge.I meant I’m extremely good at math and always have been and I like to gamble so even though I’m great at math I love gambling.Ive been on a very good run for the last 6 weeks as well.Been 13 times and won 12 out of 13.So now I’m taking another little break.for a regular guy I gamble a lot time and money wise and in my life it has worked out for the best.i just get great runs and I will bring someone Witt me once in a whirl and they pretty much lose everytime and I’m usually winning.Just a for instance last time I went a couple days ago I went in 8k and was down to 500 in an hour or so.Then on my last 500 bet I went on a streak and turned 500 into 16k in 6 bets In 10 min.Im not bragging just letting people know this is what I do a lot.Its a blast.

Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2020, 12:42:20 PM »
Sure the casino has a slight mathematical advantage but a smart gambler has every other advantage.


Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #81 on: February 08, 2020, 12:45:08 PM »
Not always the poorest people. I consider it entertainment. Fantasizing about being super rich is worth spending a buck on every now and then.


When I was a kid I heard something like this - "if you play $50 a week(era of $1 lotto) for 50 years you have less than a 1 in 50 chance of winning."

That was enough for me. Like I said, just understand basic math and that they don't have fancy carpet in a casino on the back of winners.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2020, 12:50:20 PM »
Never did the gambling thing, never cared for giving away money to Casino's.

Guy at work (recently shit-canned for something he did outside of work I'm told) is like a facilities guy, probably doesnt make much money.
Smokes 24x7 (always outside) and reeks of booze every day. (Bad alchy).

Always borrowing 20-bucks from people on like a MON (smokes, scratch tickets). Must spend all his money on the weekends (smoke, drink, scratch's).

So he finally hit a 20K scratch card last year (he buys the 20.00 tickets, probably the reason he never has money).
A week after the 20K win, he borrows 20-bucks off of me. I said "you're kidding, you just won 20k" He said "that's long gone". (In one week).

(Hopefully paid off some debts). Nice guy too, helpful, hard worker, etc. Sucks to see him lose his job recently, but he must have done something to have caused that.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #83 on: February 08, 2020, 12:58:37 PM »
This guy I knew married the hottest chick. She was so fucking hot and beautiful.  Moron had a gambling issue. Little did she know that he gambled away all of their money and mortgages the house on sports bets.  She dumped his ass when she found out.  This broad was one in a billion smoking hot.  Guy is a fucking retard.

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« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2020, 01:02:38 PM »
But if you are able to count cards then it's not gambling anymore. Gambling is when the odds are stacked against you.

Say you are able to count cards which turns to odds in your favour by 54 vs 46, or something like that. Then it's not "gambling" anymore because you know in the long run you will win.
Just like the casinos knows in the long run, they will win so it's not gambling for them, it's a business. Their profit is anything from 2% to 10% of the money put in, based on the game played. Because the odds are usually anything from 52vs48 to 60vs40 in their favour.

So for every 1000$ put in they, the casino makes 20-100$. Knowing this, a reasonable person will not go to a casino. Only dumb unecated low IQ folks do.

Unless it's a game without bank and even odds like texas hold em, but then it's not gambling, because it's a skill, a sport.

It's still gambling because you don't necessarily have unlimited funds or time to play the long game for the odds to come to fruition.


Casion gambling is always a factor of  luck, timing, skill, and the ability to know when to stop.


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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2020, 01:37:39 PM »
Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.

Yeah when my wife comes or I bring different people here and there they can’t comprehend it but math has always been my thing.Sucked at all subject is school but Aced all math classes.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2020, 01:53:48 PM »

Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.
It's not foolish if you win.  I know 90% plus lose but that's not my problem.  Discipline and control is required and that eliminates most gamblers.  The casino has a 1 1/2% advantage on baccarat.  That is their only advantage.  My advantages:

1) I don't have to play every hand or any at all

2) I can wager any amount of cash

3) I can change tables or casinos

4) I can change strategies

Again, you must keep track of all wins and losses so you know exactly how much you are winning and losing.

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« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2020, 02:35:08 PM »
Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.

You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2020, 02:41:28 PM »
You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.
Card counting worked in the 70's but almost impossible now.  Too many decks are used and they can reshuffle if they think there is any counting going on.  At least they don't do to counters what they did in the movie Casino.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2020, 03:01:22 PM »
You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.

Not true.Not sure if I’m lucky or whatever you want to call it but I’ve made a lot of money at casionos.the last 2 months have been amazing for me at casino.For a regular guy not a rich guy.Not gonna argue it but I know what I’ve made and lost and I’m way ahead.Simple as that.This includes playing some table games and poker at the casino and in private games.

And I’m not bragging or trying to show off I just do a few things pretty well and gambling is one of them.Been gambling pretty consistently for 20 years and I have a wife 3 kids house etc... and I gamble a lot and if I’m not rich I must be doing something right or i wouldn’t have anything left.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2020, 03:10:25 PM »
Fucking Juventus and Schalke cost me a lot of money today.  >:( >:( :(

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« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2020, 05:41:59 PM »
Not true.Not sure if I’m lucky or whatever you want to call it but I’ve made a lot of money at casionos.the last 2 months have been amazing for me at casino.For a regular guy not a rich guy.Not gonna argue it but I know what I’ve made and lost and I’m way ahead.Simple as that.This includes playing some table games and poker at the casino and in private games.

And I’m not bragging or trying to show off I just do a few things pretty well and gambling is one of them.Been gambling pretty consistently for 20 years and I have a wife 3 kids house etc... and I gamble a lot and if I’m not rich I must be doing something right or i wouldn’t have anything left.

Sir please, you can't expect people to take you seriously when you say you're not even sure why you're winning.

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2020, 06:34:27 PM »
Sir please, you can't expect people to take you seriously when you say you're not even sure why you're winning.

Think what you would like as omit doesn’t change my situation.Going tomorro So I will report back. luck has a lot to do with it as well so yeah I can’t say that my card counting does all the winning.Luck,skill and the ability to read people comes in to play depending which games you are playing.

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« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2020, 06:38:24 PM »
Card counting worked in the 70's but almost impossible now.  Too many decks are used and they can reshuffle if they think there is any counting going on.  At least they don't do to counters what they did in the movie Casino.

Card counting is not a guarantee just a slight edge so it does help to keep track of high and low cards with the plus/minus syste which I use. i go to Mohegan sun for 95% of my gambling and that’s been 20 years and they have no idea that I’m counting anything.Its not illegal to keep a card count in your head so they don’t know shit.I imagine if you had a team working for hundreds of thousands and your bet changes drastically they would suspect something but other than that I don’t think they care.

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« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2020, 06:49:54 PM »

Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.

Count me out of the fools. It's just entertainment to me. Winning is like putting whipped cream on strawberry shortcake. The angle food cake, ice-cream and fresh strawberries are delicious without it. 

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2020, 09:36:35 PM »
It's not foolish if you win. 



Hahaha. This is why it's classified as a disease. Strong bargaining.

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« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2020, 10:23:24 PM »
Quote from: Darren Avey link=topic=653017.msg9346520#msg9346520plate date=1581203425
Fucking Juventus and Schalke cost me a lot of money today.  >:( >:( :(

I tuned in shortly after Juve was in the lead and contemplated to put a small amount on Verona to win. It was like 29 or something like that. Had a feeling Juve was ready to lose this one after I saw the statistics on bet365. I like betting LIVE here and there. I also work as a live scout on weekends. I‘ve been to more than 700 soccer games in the last years and you see a lot of fixed matches.   

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« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2020, 10:25:23 PM »
Card counting is not a guarantee just a slight edge so it does help to keep track of high and low cards with the plus/minus syste which I use. i go to Mohegan sun for 95% of my gambling and that’s been 20 years and they have no idea that I’m counting anything.Its not illegal to keep a card count in your head so they don’t know shit.I imagine if you had a team working for hundreds of thousands and your bet changes drastically they would suspect something but other than that I don’t think they care.

There‘s a movie with Kevin Spacey about card counting. Have u seen it?

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2020, 01:22:12 AM »
I tuned in shortly after Juve was in the lead and contemplated to put a small amount on Verona to win. It was like 29 or something like that. Had a feeling Juve was ready to lose this one after I saw the statistics on bet365. I like betting LIVE here and there. I also work as a live scout on weekends. I‘ve been to more than 700 soccer games in the last years and you see a lot of fixed matches.   

True, they didnt deserve the lead. Verona were dominating

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Re: Gambling.
« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2020, 03:42:25 AM »


Hahaha. This is why it's classified as a disease. Strong bargaining.
Again, that is why you keep a log of your winnings and losses.  Problem gamblers do not do this.