Thoughts on 4x4’s

[Skylge]

Bummer.  Solid truck, brand, and service here in the states.

Is the 4 Runner or FJ? Toyota at all for that matter?  Here's some older FJ's https://www.carfax.com/Used-Toyota-FJ-Cruiser_w648

FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives





Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage

[illuminati]

Tacoma isn't sold in Europe....

I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable

Ha - we were looking at the xc60 & 90 today !!
I hadn’t really thought of them - got to say they are on our consideration list now.

[illuminati]

FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives





Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage

I do Live in UK / Gibraltar- Southern Spain.
Gibraltar isn’t the best place for big cars as there’s very little parking space & road are extremely
Narrow in places - wide enough for just 1 vehicle.
Won’t be using it around there very often. 😁

[myt1]

FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives





Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage

It's crazy to me how different the styles seem to be in Europe.

[IRON CROSS]

I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable

& 100% build in China 

[Skylge]

& 100% build in China 

First en second generation XC90 are built in Sweden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_XC90


So are the V90 and V90 Cross Country

V60, and XC60 are built in Volvo's factory in Gent, Belgium

From what I read in German car magazine AutoBild, the first gen XC90 was overbuilt by Volvo. They had no experience with an SUV, so they decided to take no risks and use quality components that last.
Inline 5 cilinder single turbo diesel might be the best choice in Europe, you can find lost of info on Volvo forums

[Bevo]

Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

[_bruce_]

Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

Most likely - all roads gebiggers use are simple straights so they can thrust their high status toys with maximum gusto.

[SOMEPARTS]

OP said 4x4 so why is this thread full of lame soccer mom cars?

[Skylge]

I do Live in UK / Gibraltar- Southern Spain.
Gibraltar isn’t the best place for big cars as there’s very little parking space & road are extremely
Narrow in places - wide enough for just 1 vehicle.
Won’t be using it around there very often. 😁

We visited Gibraltar in 2011, spend several hours there, very interesting and impressive place!
Then drove on to Tarifa, and finally to Vejer de la Frontera  (And then back to Marbella)

The Rock is cramped, but luckily Andalucia is one of the most fantastic regions of Europe!

I did notice many car rental companies do not allow you to take the car into Gibraltar (We parked close to the border). At the time some stolen cars apparently ended up in ships sailing from The Rock?

Small streets indeed bus the small taxi bus we took had no problems with them:

[Skylge]

OP said 4x4 so why is this thread full of lame soccer mom cars?

Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)

[denarii]

EQC? or iPace?
If you need to tow then an ICE engine

[SOMEPARTS]

Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)

Just buy a Fiat then. Why obsess over what you drive if you can't afford it and don't have room to drive it? OP is doomed to drive a lame, small. 1.3L shitbox. /thread

[illuminati]

Just buy a Fiat then. Why obsess over what you drive if you can't afford it and don't have room to drive it? OP is doomed to drive a lame, small. 1.3L shitbox. /thread

Not very bright are you 
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

[SOMEPARTS]

Not very bright are you 
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

Ahhh I see an insult...so who's brighter then - the asker who doesn't know what to drive asking a forum for validation or the answerer who is totally secure in what they drive?

[seCrawler]

Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

They just spread Surstromming on their crackers instead of sardines. 

[illuminati]

Ahhh I see an insult...so who's brighter then - the asker who doesn't know what to drive asking a forum for validation or the answerer who is totally secure in what they drive?

Not very bright are you  Roll Eyes
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

Still Not very bright are you - this is GetBig
and my 1st post said this would be interesting get views
 

[SOMEPARTS]

Not very bright are you  Roll Eyes
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

Still Not very bright are you - this is GetBig
and my 1st post said this would be interesting get views
 

? Try again when sober.

[IRON CROSS]

Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

Seher Guth (!), GetBiggers only drive Mad Max type of cars like Interceptor !.

[IRON CROSS]

Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)

Nope, country roads ..........visit real countries like Australia,US,...................

No 'soccer mums' in Europe !.

[IRON CROSS]

Not very bright are you 
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

U need to see whats happen when Aussie Road Train meets Fiat  , o mama mia !.

[illuminati]

U need to see whats happen when Aussie Road Train meets Fiat  , o mama mia !.

SPLAT !!!

[illuminati]

You Still Here Boy.  

? Try again when sober.

[IRON CROSS]

SPLAT !!!

wind tunnel effects , fiat can fly .............

imagine road train truck ,200m long,driving 100km & tiny italian ...............

[AbrahamG]

All wheel drive gets me through Michigan winters just fine.  No reason for 4X4 to even be a thing.