It's not saying enough. You can take any magic stack you want, and never mind diet and training lacking, say it is Basile-expert-inspired-perfect DOMS training, this is no sure-fire ticket to success in the field (and you can be successful without ever winning anything).
Think of all the well know bbers that were never successful. Tons of them that have come and gone in the magazines and NPC shows. And these are the above average ones. Now multiply that 1000 fold.
Now take two clones. Both follow the same healthy bbing friendly diet, whatever that means. One trains but is completely natural. One leads a sedentary lifestyle but takes hormones. Who wins? Who is healthier and has a better physique? Yes, I read the study about the group that gained muscle just using drugs with no training. But how long is that growth spurt going to keep going? That's why they give cows finaplex during the last 8 weeks before slaughter. And a study has shown that muscle gain on just drugs and even myostatin inhibitors lack the functional ability that trained muscle has. But that is neither here nor there and but I will try to look up the study.
Training, drugs, that's the easy part. The hardest part and the one where most fail is the diet. Most people have no idea how huge a role nutrition plays and how often a bber has to eat. And eating when you are not hungry is hard. Very, very hard. Trying to keep that up for years and years. You can't hold a regular job when you have to eat CONSISTENTLY every few hours. Ronnie had a job where he could make a quick run to his house and could pack food in his car and eat on the job. Go-4-it claims he is surrounded by food and can down 7 eggs in five minutes. But that just goes to prove that eating is a job for a competitive bber.
And then there's the other side of the coin -- the dieting. The self-deprivation during prep. The idea of even going hungry in our culture for more than an hour because you had to skip lunch means "you're starving". These are things a normal person has no conception of.
I've never been a competitive bber but have been involved with a few high-level ones. I've also been seriously involved in competitive sports for most of my life so have some notion of what a person will do and sacrifice to win. I don't think there is a sport/activity more all-consuming, more demanding, than high-level competitive bodybuilding. It's 24/7. Virtually everything you do, think and feel has an effect when you are sub 5% and dry as a bone. What they put themselves through is far, far beyond what a normal person can even comprehend.
To just dismiss it as all drugs... OK, you try it. Don't even enter a show but train like you are and post your pictures here. I know ignorant Commie lovers like Che will say he competed. Yeah, OK. But I said high-level competitive bbing. Taking it to the limits.
You make some very good points
Competing is a 24/7 job let alone competing at a high level.
A good percentage of those that post on here come across
As they either don’t go to a gym or go very haphazardly and
Barely have any kind of Bodybuilding diet.
They come across as jealous & ignorant - With there mantra of
It’s all Drugs - Yet None Take the all Drugs Route & Go On To Be
Top Level Bodybuilders as They Claim its So Easy.
I’ve come to the conclusion some are playing mind games as they
Think they are clever & others are sad people their only thing is
Slagging off & trying to put others down to make themselves
Feel better about their miserable life.
Yourself and others who post as themselves with pictures who have
Lives & Have Achieved & competed (MMA in your case) Constantly
Get grief from these dismissive / basement dweller types.
Let Just tell them the Truth They Want To Hear
All Sports at High Level are All Drugs
And they’d be up there with them if they went
All Drugs.
There they should be Happy Now.
