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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2019, 08:42:41 PM »
Dexters won what? 29 shows more than anyone in the history of bodybuilding including his 2008 Olympia win. He’s beaten pretty much everyone in the industry more than once. Next to Ronnie being the greatest Mr. Olympia we’ll ever see, Dexter is BY FAR the best on the planet

You're goddamned right Coach!  Dexter is mini Ronnie.  In 2003 & 2004 I thought Dexter got fucked and should have been runner up to Ronnie both times.  Shawn Ray was great but if we're being honest, he was narrower than Heath and smaller than Flex.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2019, 01:28:00 AM »
Im a dexter fan as well think he regularly placed lower than he should have I also have him winning more than one olympia far better than cutler in my opinion.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2019, 02:07:00 AM »
Dexter is in a class of his own. A living legend.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2019, 03:33:52 AM »
Im a dexter fan as well think he regularly placed lower than he should have I also have him winning more than one olympia far better than cutler in my opinion.

2007 Victor vs 2008 dexter

Vic placed 2nd and arguably should have won in 07

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2019, 03:38:33 AM »
 :D





Dexter faced easier competition, his longevity however is incredible

Shawn had flex, Dorian, Ronnie, Kevin, priest, Cormier, Nasser, all in their prime

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2019, 04:05:39 AM »
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With respect, I must disagree.  Shawn was crazy shredded and bone dry for many years.
Always looked smooth and blocky to me except for 1 year.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2019, 04:06:34 AM »
no need for respect, humble narcissist is something of a moron
Coming from the moron who still believes protein powder builds muscles.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2019, 11:24:12 AM »
:D





Dexter faced easier competition, his longevity however is incredible

Shawn had flex, Dorian, Ronnie, Kevin, priest, Cormier, Nasser, all in their prime


Great post Shawn faced way higher quality of competition in there prime than dexter did

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2019, 11:26:28 AM »
Coming from a guy who thinks William Boner is better than prime Kevin Levrone
Wow if that is true he is truly delusional





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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2019, 11:59:54 AM »
Shawn has a narrower lower abdominal and does the vaccuum.


Dexter wins every pose otherwise.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 11:22:04 AM »
Shawn Ray   better physique
Dexter better bodybuilder.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 11:44:27 AM »
:D





Dexter faced easier competition, his longevity however is incredible

Shawn had flex, Dorian, Ronnie, Kevin, priest, Cormier, Nasser, all in their prime

Shawn also couldn't get hard over 212, which means he was a glorified 212 competitor in the open class in his prime.  212s don't win the open class olympia.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 06:10:15 PM »
Dex >

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2019, 06:30:15 PM »
Shawn also couldn't get hard over 212, which means he was a glorified 212 competitor in the open class in his prime.  212s don't win the open class olympia.

And flex wheeler looked his best at a wayyy lighter weight, 218, low 220’s??

That’s wrong with bbing, weight means shit, it’s how you look and carry it

Ronnie looked his best in the 240’s, 98 and 01 arnold classic

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2019, 06:31:45 PM »
Dex >

What did Shawn place and dexter place at that show? lol

Posting pics in favor of dexter

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2019, 07:54:49 PM »

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2019, 02:59:29 AM »


Ouch! Owned.
Yes.  Shawn is getting crushed in that pic.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2019, 02:47:11 PM »
shawn looks better in the back double bi pic, but like i said shawn did not compete against the better versions of dexter

shawn looks better aesthetically, but dexter would place ahead of him

you guys say the competition is weaker today, phil from 2010 - 2014 or so would beat everybody except ronnie

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2019, 03:26:07 PM »
Dexter won an Olympia, multiple Arnold Classics and won every title in bodybuilding. He has never placed higher in a bodybuilding contest than Shawn Ray when going head to head. Olympia 99, 00 and 01. Ray placed 5, 4 and 4. Dexter placed 9, 9 and 8th.  It wasn't until 2002 that Dexter broke top 6 and placed 4th.  Where was Shawn?  Retired. 

Not only has Shawn placed higher head to head, it's for good reason, his physique is just better.  It's more complete and aesthetically pleasing.  To me Dexter and Shawn are like Ronnie and Flex...except in Shawn's case, he placed higher.

Take the best Dexter and the best Shawn and I'll go with the best Shawn any day.



Absolutely 100% agree.

So many bodybuilders look ugly, bloofy, blocky, and unpleasing no matter how shredded or conditioned they are (like 99.9% of the bodybuilders today).

The one thing Shawn had in spades was that his physique was incredibly pleasing to the eye, even if you weren't a fan of the sport.

It's a shame he never won the Olympia because I think he would've been a great ambassador to the 'sport' even more so than Flex because he had a much better tolerance to the drugs and could speak better than the others. Unfortunately the sport went to the freaks and he couldn't compare with that despite still being competitive with them.


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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2019, 04:18:50 PM »
Shawn was arrogant enough without winning the Olympia.  Imagine the asshole's ego if he had won it.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2019, 04:20:00 PM »
shawn looks better in the back double bi pic, but like i said shawn did not compete against the better versions of dexter

shawn looks better aesthetically, but dexter would place ahead of him

you guys say the competition is weaker today, phil from 2010 - 2014 or so would beat everybody except ronnie

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True about Phil but he’s also a 7 time O winner, besides him, who was really dominant in this era? Branch, Cedric never gets in shape, freeman old, dexter declining big time now,  washed up Vic, washed up jay, declining Wolfe, kuclo, mccarver dead, Compton health issues, Kai??

Certainly none of those maybe with the exception of Kai

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2019, 08:47:00 PM »
Ray was robbed in 1994 for sure.

Even Dorian's friend and fellow countryman, Bob Wollf, said Shawn "should've flown home with the Sandow."

Wollf wrote Dorian's book Blood & Guts.

That was also the year Laura Creavalle got robbed of a Ms. Olympia title against Lenda Murray.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2019, 02:48:45 AM »
Ray was robbed in 1994 for sure.

Even Dorian's friend and fellow countryman, Bob Wollf, said Shawn "should've flown home with the Sandow."

Wollf wrote Dorian's book Blood & Guts.

That was also the year Laura Creavalle got robbed of a Ms. Olympia title against Lenda Murray.
No.  Ray looked great from the front put looked pedestrian when compared with Yates back.  Not even close, look at the pics from that contest.  Better yet, watch the video.

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2019, 08:38:15 AM »
And flex wheeler looked his best at a wayyy lighter weight, 218, low 220’s??

That’s wrong with bbing, weight means shit, it’s how you look and carry it

Ronnie looked his best in the 240’s, 98 and 01 arnold classic

I actually think bodybuilding is trending back to that after for the last few Years Arnold complaining about the way bodybuilders were looking and wanting to see more “vacuum” shots and after last year, Rhoden winning. Your seeing better symmetry and less guts

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Re: Shawn Ray is better than Dexter Jackson
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2019, 03:50:25 PM »
Ray was robbed in 1994 for sure.

Even Dorian's friend and fellow countryman, Bob Wollf, said Shawn "should've flown home with the Sandow."

Wollf wrote Dorian's book Blood & Guts.

That was also the year Laura Creavalle got robbed of a Ms. Olympia title against Lenda Murray.

If anything, Levrone should have won in 1994