Author Topic: Banned from ironage.us (Read 46530 times)

exactly.

That is why many hate the "rules" on ironage: if being honest means being negative (eg. Arnold's toothpick quads or undersized triceps) you are looked down upon or banned.

Getbig is the best board on the net because it allows freedom of expression and honest opinions.

Apparently, they were talking about me over there, saying I was "deranged" LOL - best news I have had all day!

Oh please , honest opinions and freedom of expression? I've never had anything deleted on Ironage and I've had more than a handfull of posts on GetBig deleted and so has many others if anything GetBig censors and Ironage doesn't

And put Arnold's quads into context , toothpicks by todays standards , sure , now rewind 35 years Arnold's quads were on par with his contemporaries , Ronnie's calves however on NOT on par with his contemporaries and not up any standards past or present

And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion , thats utter garbage , people get banned for NOT following their rules and they warned people beforehand that they are pushing the limits , and a LOT of Ironagers like the current scene , many raved about Gunthers condition that the 05 Olympia , there are many Pros today that look fantastic but they're not winning contests , Jojo Ntiforo , David Henry , Mark Dugdale , Troy Alves , etc ,

pumpster · « **Reply #182 on:** April 21, 2006, 05:55:14 PM »

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Oh please , honest opinions and freedom of expression? I've never had anything deleted on Ironage and I've had more than a handfull of posts on GetBig deleted and so has many others if anything GetBig censors and Ironage doesn't

And put Arnold's quads into context , toothpicks by todays standards , sure , now rewind 35 years Arnold's quads were on par with his contemporaries , Ronnie's calves however on NOT on par with his contemporaries and not up any standards past or present

And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion , thats utter garbage , people get banned for NOT following their rules and they warned people beforehand that they are pushing the limits , and a LOT of Ironagers like the current scene , many raved about Gunthers condition that the 05 Olympia , there are many Pros today that look fantastic but they're not winning contests , Jojo Ntiforo , David Henry , Mark Dugdale , Troy Alves , etc

EXACTLY. So what if everything you've just pointed out smells like propaganda? So what?

As you say, Arnold's legs were much better than Ron's! Getbig's much more controlling than IA!

Thank yew for yet another stellar example of vindictive IA dogma; much appreciated. God bless.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #183 on:** April 21, 2006, 06:01:08 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 21, 2006, 05:33:26 PM

Oh please , honest opinions and freedom of expression? I've never had anything deleted on Ironage and I've had more than a handfull of posts on GetBig deleted and so has many others if anything GetBig censors and Ironage doesn't

And put Arnold's quads into context , toothpicks by todays standards , sure , now rewind 35 years Arnold's quads were on par with his contemporaries , Ronnie's calves however on NOT on par with his contemporaries and not up any standards past or present

And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion , thats utter garbage , people get banned for NOT following their rules and they warned people beforehand that they are pushing the limits , and a LOT of Ironagers like the current scene , many raved about Gunthers condition that the 05 Olympia , there are many Pros today that look fantastic but they're not winning contests , Jojo Ntiforo , David Henry , Mark Dugdale , Troy Alves , etc ,

How much did Shawn pay you? $:-\$

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #184 on:** April 21, 2006, 06:10:57 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on April 21, 2006, 06:01:08 PM

How much did Shawn pay you? $:-\$

I got a year subscription to Flex

LuciusFox · « **Reply #185 on:** April 21, 2006, 06:13:14 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 21, 2006, 06:10:57 PM

I got a year subscription to Flex

Flex was cool before the internet $:-\$

Hulkster · « **Reply #186 on:** April 21, 2006, 07:08:02 PM »

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And stop the B.S. that people get banned from Ironage for having a contradictory opinion ,

but they get invited to post on other boards...

If you don't believe me, check out the "rank the olympians'" thread...

Apparently, you are not allowed to pick 98 ronnie as the best Olympian without being invited to leave..

So much for freedom of expression..

Why do you think I stay away- I love ironage guys too, but if every time I say positive stuff about the pre-gut Ronnie I am invited to go and post on other boards that celebrate "post 1990" stuff, why would I stay there?

Eric2 · « **Reply #187 on:** April 21, 2006, 11:34:48 PM »

I got banned from Iron Age. Shawn Perine is a liberal and spouted his opinions in various threads, which(oh my god) I felt I could speak my thoughts on the matter ( since he brought politics up) but since my beliefs where against his he basically me told me to shut up. So I told him to f off in so many words. I did not give 2 shits if he banned me. His site is not that great, it's moderated by a bunch of ass kissing guys who think they are better than any generation that ever lived.
They do not want their hero's tainted by the "truth" so they pm those who speak it and shut them down. Just like they do in communist countries. No freedom of speech.
It really is a shame too. The days of bodybuilding from the 60's to the 70's (imo) was the best. It was a time when guys trained for the love of the sport, not because it was their job as Shawn Ray puts it.

sustabob · « **Reply #188 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:02:36 AM »

Quote from: jaejonna on April 21, 2006, 03:17:56 PM

I think Ironage.us gives us a chance to look back at the mistakes of bodybuilding and how we got to the mess we are at today....

discuss

I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.

Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.

Discuss that you little twat...

Hulkster · « **Reply #189 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:39:21 AM »

the thing that is amazing is you have guys like ND saying that we are all crazy, yet all you have to do is log on and look for their "rank the olympians" thread for a perfect example of the sort of stuff that this monster thread is talking about:

someone picked a guy as the best of the Olympians (1998 Ronnie) and they were told by a moderator "there are other boards that celebrate bodybuilding post 1990 - why not post there?"- there you have your proof.

Comments?

that sort of thing really pisses me off - you are not allowed to like ironage guys and post there yet at the same time happen to think that a current champ might be better - you get invited to LEAVE...

I guess all of the "rumors" are true $:-\$

Jeff Preston · « **Reply #190 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:46:21 AM »

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8059.0

rufjunk · « **Reply #191 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:53:48 AM »

If you want some "inside knowledge" about the ironage moderators and frequent posters read this:

Many of the posters and moderators refuse to mention the role of anabolics during the ironage or in bodybuilding due to their lack of a moral code. They associate "wrong" with anything that's illegal. They would much rather believe the bodies they attempt to mimic are free of anabolics, this way they can emulate them without feeling the perceived guilt. In turn, they limit their success by strictly abiding by principles created by their own board members, these principles pertain to using "natural" methods to acquire mass. These natural methods are purely subjective, they obstain from anything that one would perceive as "steroids", not because of it's morality, but because others might look down upon them for using it. This in turn limits their ability to succeed in their goals because they can't mimic the anabolic bodies they praise. They're suggested moral code is a sham.

This leads many to believe that they care more about how they're perceived than their own bodybuilding success.

This is evident in most ironagers' preference to observe a Steve Reeve's photo where he's wearing khaki pants and has a trimmed hair cut. The idea of style, fashion, and appealing to society's principles are more important than bodybuilding.

Their messageboard seems like the definition of metrosexual.

I could tell them more about their inadequacies and faulty logic but they'd rather ignore me. Not because what I'm saying isn't factual, rather because it would force them to change. Why change if the one person who knows their faulty moral code is banned?

Hulkster · « **Reply #192 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:54:53 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Preston on April 22, 2006, 10:46:21 AM

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8059.0

sorry, that is not the thread. The thread is here:

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=7717.0
near the end.

pumpster · « **Reply #193 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:57:55 AM »

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I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.

Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.

Discuss that you little twat...

ROFL

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #194 on:** April 22, 2006, 11:22:44 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 22, 2006, 10:39:21 AM

the thing that is amazing is you have guys like ND saying that we are all crazy, yet all you have to do is log on and look for their "rank the olympians" thread for a perfect example of the sort of stuff that this monster thread is talking about:

someone picked a guy as the best of the Olympians (1998 Ronnie) and they were told by a moderator "there are other boards that celebrate bodybuilding post 1990 - why not post there?"- there you have your proof.

Comments?

that sort of thing really pisses me off - you are not allowed to like ironage guys and post there yet at the same time happen to think that a current champ might be better - you get invited to LEAVE...

I guess all of the "rumors" are true $:-\$

I called you crazy because you keep insisting people get banned for liking modern age bodybuilding , thats bull and has been proven to be bull period.

Matt outright lied about the reason he was banned , period.

The mod asked a question , hence the little " ? " it wasn't a demand , they wern't banned ,and still posts .

Hulkster · « **Reply #195 on:** April 22, 2006, 11:30:43 AM »

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The mod asked a question , hence the little " ? " it wasn't a demand , they wern't banned ,and still posts .

but it certainly was an unfriendly comment, which is what a lot of this thread has been about:

the general tone of the board is very unwelcoming to freedom of opinion.

You have to share in their exact collective opinion or you are made to feel unwelcome.

you can't deny this - the proof is right there in the thread about the olympians.

Why can't the board realize that there are many out there who love ironage bodybuilders (and would like to contribute to the board) but still might think on occasion that a current champ might be better?

You should not be made to feel unwelcome for this opinion.

But at ironage you are.

This is what many are complaining about.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #196 on:** April 22, 2006, 12:11:03 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on April 22, 2006, 11:30:43 AM

but it certainly was an unfriendly comment, which is what a lot of this thread has been about:

the general tone of the board is very unwelcoming to freedom of opinion.

You have to share in their exact collective opinion or you are made to feel unwelcome.

you can't deny this - the proof is right there in the thread about the olympians.

Why can't the board realize that there are many out there who love ironage bodybuilders (and would like to contribute to the board) but still might think on occasion that a current champ might be better?

You should not be made to feel unwelcome for this opinion.

But at ironage you are.

This is what many are complaining about.

Hulkster you have an Axe to grind with Ironage , you really do , stop acting like a crusader for peoples feelings , if you don't feel welcomed don't post its that simple , I posted I don't think Shawn Ray is great on Ironage and that opinion was met with very strong oppostion and I didn't cry " I don't feel welcomed " and don't be a fucking hypocrite every time I post an opinion on Frank Zane on this site the collective mass gang up on me and calls him a swimmer and he sucks blah blah blah , that opinion isn't welcomed but you aren't the welcome wagon then are you? no you're to busy joining in , but the diffence is I'M NOT CRYING ABOUT IT , people have opinions they differ greatly , thats what these boards are for , saying your peace , if you have no confidence in your opinion and your opinion is based on strangers reactions , you really shouldn't be on a message board , go to Pogo and be happy .

Hulkster · « **Reply #197 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:09:44 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 22, 2006, 12:11:03 PM

Hulkster you have an Axe to grind with Ironage , you really do , stop acting like a crusader for peoples feelings , if you don't feel welcomed don't post its that simple , I posted I don't think Shawn Ray is great on Ironage and that opinion was met with very strong oppostion and I didn't cry " I don't feel welcomed " and don't be a fucking hypocrite every time I post an opinion on Frank Zane on this site the collective mass gang up on me and calls him a swimmer and he sucks blah blah blah , that opinion isn't welcomed but you aren't the welcome wagon then are you? no you're to busy joining in , but the diffence is I'M NOT CRYING ABOUT IT , people have opinions they differ greatly , thats what these boards are for , saying your peace , if you have no confidence in your opinion and your opinion is based on strangers reactions , you really shouldn't be on a message board , go to Pogo and be happy .

I am not a crusader for peoples feelings, but I don't like it when people are made to feel unwelcome.

The difference with getbig and ironage is that on getbig all the negativity is understood with a sense of fun -eg. all the crack/drug jokes that people rib you on. On getbig, you can laugh when you get insulted beacause its obvious that people are just having fun.

On ironage, they seem generally nasty.

Okay, that is all I will say on this topic - I don't have an axe to grind - I didn's start all of this.

But I was merely showing that alot of what people have said about ironage is true - the proof is right there in their boards.

jaejonna · « **Reply #198 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:19:59 PM »

Quote from: sustabob on April 22, 2006, 08:02:36 AM

I think jaejonna has previously posted on ironage about how much he dislikes getbig.

Ergo I think jaejonna is an incredibly twofaced shit stirrer.

Discuss that you little twat...

When you wake up in the middle of the night , sweating, crying, and wishing it would just all go away ..know one thing..

I own3d you. I dwarf SustaBob

CQ · « **Reply #199 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:20:32 PM »

Hulkster darling,

You probably make no sense as we all know you are "deranged"