ESF - Discussion

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I make up stories about you? Haha , nope, I don't know anything about you other that what you've said about being a junkie and your friends being junkies who stole everything to pay for their dope... And you obviously know nothing about heroin, so that leaves what? Meth and coke for you.

And what am I lying about or delusional about?

Nope. Never made it onstage. The 3x I attempted I ended up pulling out (San Diego championships, border states, and I forget if it was the orange county muscle classic or the San Diego championships again), all kinda back to back. Ended up in the hospital twice. Once with gastritis, couldn't eat and at the end, by day 9-12, I couldn't even swallow a sip of water without crazy pain in my stomach. That's zero food for 12days, and at the end, zero water for 3-4days, dropped from 218 down to the 180/190's and was planning on doing the superheavy class (I'm 6ft.. back then I was 6'1"/6'1.5"... Lost an inch and a half ovrr the years). Similar thing happened the next one, except with renal faliure. Last one I had other shit to deal with (issue with another dealer, long story. Ppl from Mayhem might remember), newborn baby, and was in hospital for 10days with pancreatitis.

Back then I was always having to diet-up for the shows, (except the 3rd, I was fine) as I don't carry a ton of muscle naturally. Took a while to get to where I'd walk around at 225-235 without pushing the envelope chemical-wise. Not to mention dealing with injuries. Neck, shoulder, bicep etc..

So your therory is that because I don't have the genetics, or even desire, to compete, that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics? Hahaha says a lot about you.

You idiots like to believe the naritive dolts like to paint about me (Jeff, Wes, Josh, the fat black with the missing front tooth, whatever his name is, etc whoever)... The dolts who follow me around from thread to thread.

You EVER see me following people into threads and trolling them? I don't care about them.. I don't think about them, whereas Im somehow occupying a lot of space in their brain and their life. Hell, look at this thread. I didn't start it, I gotta text telling me about it and I wasn't even on the board anymore. I asked to be "deleted" as I was dealing with a private investigator and a gf's baby's psycho father and her believing he was gonna kill her and she didn't want him to have the baby, she wanted me to adopt him, and he'd likely use stuff from here against me. Spoken with mods here (&Ron) about it, as well as ppl off the board. I wasn't even checking in here anymore. This place is just partly entertaining, whereas some of you people live here and think about this place while you're eating breakfast, driving to work, at work, eating lunch, eating dinner, picking up your kids from school, fucking your boyfriend's, etc.etc.etc... I have other shit to worry about. I have other shit that's more interesting to me for instance looking at this $0.05 Euro coin from espana or this 5¢ "Wu jiao" from China in my hand is more interesting than anything going on with any of you morons. I'm amazed you even remember anything about me, because I don't recall anything about you. Maybe I should take that as a compliment I'd rather be memorable than forgettable even if most of shit you remember about me is made up by somebody else

 

[wes]

Never did Meth in my entire life.

Never said I was a junkie.

I know more than you do about heroin.........for instance,the amount you said you did in the amount of time that you said you did it in is almost fucking impossible.

You also said you lost just a tiny amount of weight while using this huge amount.

NEWSFLASH: Junkies do not have appetites !!

Have you ever overdosed on heroin using that amount in that timeframe ?

Then you write a long dissertation about not competing because each time you wanted to,you had come up with a disease.  LOL  

You have had every fucking disease and operation there is to have except on your brain, and that`s the operation you need the most.

I comment on your threads because they are mostly lies and that`s what we do here we out liars and morons like yourself.

Trust me,I don`t think of you that much,I just want people here to know you`re full of shit.

[WalterWhite]

This is going 100 pages. 

[ESFitness]

Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.

[ESFitness]

Never did Meth in my entire life.

Never said I was a junkie.

I know more than you do about heroin.........for instance,the amount you said you did in the amount of time that you said you did it in is almost fucking impossible.

You also said you lost just a tiny amount of weight while using this huge amount.

NEWSFLASH: Junkies do not have appetites !!

Have you ever overdosed on heroin using that amount in that timeframe ?

Then you write a long dissertation about not competing because each time you wanted to,you had come up with a disease.  LOL  

You have had every fucking disease and operation there is to have except on your brain, and that`s the operation you need the most.

I comment on your threads because they are mostly lies and that`s what we do here we out liars and morons like yourself.

Trust me,I don`t think of you that much,I just want people here to know you`re full of shit.

"Junkies don't have appetites"? Maybe meth and coke junkies.

Opiates made me hungry. Ask some Nubain users.

Overdosed? Yep. 3x. Twice in 1 day, the 2nd time was in the gym. Woke up and went right back to training my client unaware I had blacked out/passed out and stood up like nothing happened (I have no memory of it. I had no idea what the 2 girls were talking about and went back to loading plates on the hammer strength machine) they called the EMTs even though I said cancel it, I'm fine. EMTs showed up, took my blood pressure etc.. bp was 240/160 or whatever and pulse was over 200, same thing with the first time I OD'd and someone called EMTs. They insisted I go to the hospital but I declined and had to sign a waiver, saying that if I drove off and crashed and someone was killed that I'd be charged with murder/manslaughter or whatever... At work they made me go to the hospital where I checked out after a few hrs and had my gf come pick me up.

And using the amount of heroin is "fucking impossible"?? Obviously it's not.

And what disease have I ever had???

Fuck, you're an idiot who's brain is ruined by stimulants. People like you love to argue with everybody and get stuck on pointless things and you don't even realize it.

[ESFitness]

This is going 100 pages. 

I can't tell if that's a Photoshoped pic of me lol. The hair is similar when it's long. The nose looks right. Eyes look right, minus eyebrow scars. Beard looks trimmed different though. Even the hand looks how it looks now lol

Wtf lol

[wes]

Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.

And you still built a terrible physique !! 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Btw, "why don't you get onstage just once, now?"...

Because I don't really have any desire to. I'm 37. I started training on my 14th birthday, and trained 5-6days a week and never missed a session. Started anabolics on my 17th birthday (100mg test [1amp of Sten] a week for 12weeks, started insulin around week 7). 12 weeks off then back on 1cc of Schien test cyp 200mg/wk for 14wks) then about 6months off before I figured out I could just go to Mexico every week and do my shots down there instead of having to smuggle drugs back across the border, having already been caught by u.s. customs once and Mexican police once. (And multiple times in the years after).

That's 23yrs of training with 20 of those yrs never missing a workout whether if was bodybuilding or powerlifting from 07-'11 including bad shoulder and neck injuries.. even trained through kidney stones and pissing so much blood it looked like hot sauce, not to mention I followed bodybuilding and read everything I could from age 7,and 20yrs of anabolics.

That's 30yrs of following bodybuilding, 23yrs of training. As of now, I'm done, and I use the knowledge of training, nutrition, and PED's to train others.

Oh please, me and Wes are older than you are and you don't hear us whining......stop being a pussy and get on stage you druggie bastard and prove us wrong.

[ESFitness]

Oh please, me and Wes are older than you are and you don't hear us whining......stop being a pussy and get on age you druggie bastard and prove us wrong.

I've seen you on stage. You looked like a 50yr old fat black stripper with tits like cucumbers. 🥒  🥒

And what the fuck am i "whining" about? Me saying I have no desire to get on stage? lol could say the same about you having no desire to ever be below 30% bodyfat or fix that speech impediment.

[Coach is Back!]

I make up stories about you? Haha , nope, I don't know anything about you other that what you've said about being a junkie and your friends being junkies who stole everything to pay for their dope... And you obviously know nothing about heroin, so that leaves what? Meth and coke for you.

And what am I lying about or delusional about?

Nope. Never made it onstage. The 3x I attempted I ended up pulling out (San Diego championships, border states, and I forget if it was the orange county muscle classic or the San Diego championships again), all kinda back to back. Ended up in the hospital twice. Once with gastritis, couldn't eat and at the end, by day 9-12, I couldn't even swallow a sip of water without crazy pain in my stomach. That's zero food for 12days, and at the end, zero water for 3-4days, dropped from 218 down to the 180/190's and was planning on doing the superheavy class (I'm 6ft.. back then I was 6'1"/6'1.5"... Lost an inch and a half ovrr the years). Similar thing happened the next one, except with renal faliure. Last one I had other shit to deal with (issue with another dealer, long story. Ppl from Mayhem might remember), newborn baby, and was in hospital for 10days with pancreatitis.

Back then I was always having to diet-up for the shows, (except the 3rd, I was fine) as I don't carry a ton of muscle naturally. Took a while to get to where I'd walk around at 225-235 without pushing the envelope chemical-wise. Not to mention dealing with injuries. Neck, shoulder, bicep etc..

So your therory is that because I don't have the genetics, or even desire, to compete, that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to training, nutrition, or anabolics? Hahaha says a lot about you.

You idiots like to believe the naritive dolts like to paint about me (Jeff, Wes, Josh, the fat black with the missing front tooth, whatever his name is, etc whoever)... The dolts who follow me around from thread to thread.

You EVER see me following people into threads and trolling them? I don't care about them.. I don't think about them, whereas Im somehow occupying a lot of space in their brain and their life. Hell, look at this thread. I didn't start it, I gotta text telling me about it and I wasn't even on the board anymore. I asked to be "deleted" as I was dealing with a private investigator and a gf's baby's psycho father and her believing he was gonna kill her and she didn't want him to have the baby, she wanted me to adopt him, and he'd likely use stuff from here against me. Spoken with mods here (&Ron) about it, as well as ppl off the board. I wasn't even checking in here anymore. This place is just partly entertaining, whereas some of you people live here and think about this place while you're eating breakfast, driving to work, at work, eating lunch, eating dinner, picking up your kids from school, fucking your boyfriend's, etc.etc.etc... I have other shit to worry about. I have other shit that's more interesting to me for instance looking at this $0.05 Euro coin from espana or this 5¢ "Wu jiao" from China in my hand is more interesting than anything going on with any of you morons. I'm amazed you even remember anything about me, because I don't recall anything about you. Maybe I should take that as a compliment I'd rather be memorable than forgettable even if most of shit you remember about me is made up by somebody else

So basically you gave up. The prep part of competing was too difficult so after three no-go’s you said fuck it

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I've seen you on stage. You looked like a 50yr old fat black stripper with tits like cucumbers. 🥒  🥒

And what the fuck am i "whining" about? Me saying I have no desire to get on stage? lol could say the same about you having no desire to ever be below 30% bodyfat or fix that speech impediment.

.All talk no balls or shaft.   Wash your vagina out

[Marvin Martian]

There are many of us on here with much more experience than you Eric. From age 14 to 24 doesn’t really count - but honestly 23 years of being misguided and foolish doesn’t make you an expert. You jumped on juice WAY too young - looking for fast results rather than the long grind of training and REALLY learning. You state that “you followed BB and read the magazines and boards” - you do realize that doesn’t remotely make you even knowledgeable much less an “expert”.
But you are still a child and children don’t know when to listen and learn rather than talk. So there is absolutely nothing that can help you. You will be 40 soon with not much to show for all your years of expertise. You do have a few years left - one goal could be to grow up.

[LurkerNoMore]

As predicted... wall of text.

[ESFitness]

There are many of us on here with much more experience than you Eric. From age 14 to 24 doesn’t really count - but honestly 23 years of being misguided and foolish doesn’t make you an expert. You jumped on juice WAY too young - looking for fast results rather than the long grind of training and REALLY learning. You state that “you followed BB and read the magazines and boards” - you do realize that doesn’t remotely make you even knowledgeable much less an “expert”.
But you are still a child and children don’t know when to listen and learn rather than talk. So there is absolutely nothing that can help you. You will be 40 soon with not much to show for all your years of expertise. You do have a few years left - one goal could be to grow up.

"14-24"?? Wtf is that from?

You have a deluded vission of me that's made up by dunce's and post their naritive of my life.
.

.All talk no balls or shaft.   Wash your vagina out

That sounds like you're asking for a dick pic. All you gotta do is as Fatboy. Or head to PornHub, an ex.gf posted like 4-5 of our videos. Make sure you watch the whole thing...I'm sure that girl needs the cash.

So basically you gave up. The prep part of competing was too difficult so after three no-go’s you said fuck it

Yea... I "gave up". Wasn't all that important to me.anyways.  From the time i was 7-14,15,16,17 I wanted to.be a pro bber... When I realized I didn't have the genetics it wasn't that important to me. Gave it a shot at 18/19/20/21 or whatever it was, but I had a wife a kids and I don't have the genetics to turn pro without devoting every second of every day to "bodybuilding" and turning pro, and even then there's no guarantee of a "big paycheck", so I chose to hustle, idiot. You fat little pudgy numbskull. I chose my life and my kids over bodybuilding. You're gonna criticize that? You fucking fat face midget? We live in the same.area, feel free to say it to my face. You know I'll show up. I promise to let go of the choke when you go limp or piss yourself. Bitch.

[Coach is Back!]

"14-24"?? Wtf is that from?

You have a deluded vission of me that's made up by dunce's and post their naritive of my life.
.

That sounds like you're asking for a dick pic. All you gotta do is as Fatboy. Or head to PornHub, an ex.gf posted like 4-5 of our videos. Make sure you watch the whole thing...I'm sure that girl needs the cash.

Yea... I "gave up". Wasn't all that important to me.anyways.  From the time i was 7-14,15,16,17 I wanted to.be a pro bber... When I realized I didn't have the genetics it wasn't that important to me. Gave it a shot at 18/19/20/21 or whatever it was, but I had a wife a kids and I don't have the genetics to turn pro without devoting every second of every day to "bodybuilding" and turning pro, and even then there's no guarantee of a "big paycheck", so I chose to hustle, idiot. You fat little pudgy numbskull. I chose my life and my kids over bodybuilding. You're gonna criticize that? You fucking fat face midget? We live in the same.area, feel free to say it to my face. You know I'll show up. I promise to let go of the choke when you go limp or piss yourself. Bitch.

No, you gave up otherwise you have done at least 1,2 or even three shows just to get a taste of why competitive bodybuilding is bodybuilding. If you haven’t been there you shouldn’t speak on it but I digress, having a wife and kids you still chose to hustle, sell street drugs then eventually jail, prison, etc.

PS, I’m not hard to find tough guy and no, we’re not in the area. We’re over 100 miles apart. You don’t like it when I say you gave up. Well, you did. When ANYONE makes excuses as to why they couldn’t do this or that, it’s a fucking excuse and sets you or anyone else up for failure in anything they do. It’s a cop out. It should piss you off

[WalterWhite]

I can't tell if that's a Photoshoped pic of me lol. The hair is similar when it's long. The nose looks right. Eyes look right, minus eyebrow scars. Beard looks trimmed different though. Even the hand looks how it looks now lol

Wtf lol

Not shopped but not far off

[ESFitness]

No, you gave up otherwise you have done at least 1,2 or even three shows just to get a taste of why competitive bodybuilding is bodybuilding. If you haven’t been there you shouldn’t speak on it but I digress, having a wife and kids you still chose to hustle, sell street drugs then eventually jail, prison, etc.

PS, I’m not hard to find tough guy and no, we’re not in the area. We’re over 100 miles apart. You don’t like it when I say you gave up. Well, you did. When ANYONE makes excuses as to why they couldn’t do this or that, it’s a fucking excuse and sets you or anyone else up for failure in anything they do. It’s a cop out. It should piss you off

You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.

[Coach is Back!]

You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.

Nope, sold my place at Desert Princess 3 years ago and it was a vacation home. I’ve been in HB for over 30 years. Too bad you can’t understand what I was trying to say.

[SOMEPARTS]

You have a home in rancho mirage, no?

I'm in palm desert. We're 2niles apart.

I don't give a fuck what you call it "gave up" or whatever, I don't care for your disrespectful fucking attitude. And I won't tolerate it my fucking fat faced fucking punchable midget you little fucking bitch I will choke you to sleep and piss on your fucking face fat little disrespectful punk.

Translation:


"I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

People talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

Spent many years in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most people here in the 'real world' aren't ready for what could happen...and run their mouths like the world is a make-believe cartoon. Despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying the bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

The guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. If you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day."

[AbrahamG]

Translation:


"I don't take kindly to disrespect. Not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in line at Walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners...anywhere.

People talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.

Spent many years in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most people here in the 'real world' aren't ready for what could happen...and run their mouths like the world is a make-believe cartoon. Despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying the bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.

The guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. If you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day."

Poetry.  Probably belongs on the Statue of Liberty.

[Marvin Martian]

I bet your kid is proud of you!!  Prison - heroin - “hustling” - damn man you should write parenting books.

[ESFitness]

I bet your kid is proud of you!!  Prison - heroin - “hustling” - damn man you should write parenting books.

Kid(s) that is.

Btw, I can look you in the eye and tell you I'm the most knowledgeable "frequent" poster on the board, with the most experience. How many clients have you had? How many competed? How many won? How many have ifbb pro cards? How many powerlifters do you have that are CURRENT #1 in their weight class? How many HAVE BEEN #1 ?? That's clients AND customers. You claim my.gear is dirty? I don't know what I'm talking about? Their records say otherwise. You fucken wannabe punk bitch.  Give me $3k and maybe you'll win a show too.punk

[Coach is Back!]

Kid(s) that is.

Btw, I can look you in the eye and tell you I'm the most knowledgeable "frequent" poster on the board, with the most experience. How many clients have you had? How many competed? How many won? How many have ifbb pro cards? How many powerlifters do you have that are CURRENT #1 in their weight class? How many HAVE BEEN #1 ?? That's clients AND customers. You claim my.gear is dirty? I don't know what I'm talking about? Their records say otherwise. You fucken wannabe punk bitch.  Give me $3k and maybe you'll win a show too.punk

In my case if you want to brag, more than you in all categories as recent as the Tampa Pro and two that turned pro at Team Universe. On to MMA, I have a fighter that’s on an 8 fight win streak fighting for the Bellator Heavyweight Championship this weekend. I’ll be in his corner. I call him my brother because we’ve been together for 11 years and his son is my God son. He’s my family and best friend. Keep running your mouth

[ESFitness]

In my case if you want to brag, more than you in all categories as recent as the Tampa Pro and two that turned pro at Team Universe. On to MMA, I have a fighter that’s on an 8 fight win streak fighting for the Bellator Heavyweight Championship this weekend. I’ll be in his corner. I call him my brother because we’ve been together for 11 years and his son is my God son. He’s my family and best friend. Keep running your mouth

Mma? Gotta guy fighting/headlining on the Michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up. Local fella, went to school with my ex-fiance. You probably know him.

I don't give a fuck who you're "training", unlike you and the bums like you who ask who I'm training. You mean nothing to me. Unlike me to you. Fatboy.

[Coach is Back!]

Mma? Gotta guy fighting/headlining on the Michel Waterson/Joanna card coming up. Local fella, went to school with my ex-fiance. You probably know him.

I don't give a fuck who you're "training", unlike you and the bums like you who ask who I'm training. You mean nothing to me. Unlike me to you. Fatboy.

Never heard of either of them