ESF - Discussion

[ESFitness]

Ever think of straightening out your life and staying clean and sober?

Reality sucks when your a substance abuse,r but after sometime not puking on your shoes gets to be a pretty good thing.

Are you illiterate? "Ever think of...?" You even quoted it. Goes to show what 30yrs of crack, coke, meth and booze has done to your brain. Encephalopathy at it's finest.

[ESFitness]

esf , which anti-inflammatory is the most effective . . . ? and which is the safest for long term use . . . ?

Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.

[Marvin Martian]

Wow - this retard didn’t even realize that y’all were asking him questions in jest. He thought you seriously respected his opinion.

[joswift]

Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.

so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that

[Marvin Martian]

Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.

[joswift]

Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.

hes like a computer with a virus just throwing out random shite and non-sensical waffle and pulling up endless Wikipedia pages he has written himself.

[DooM_]

Ice.

I don't care for any anti-inflammatory's. At least not after training, on days you train (or post-game), or for training soreness whatsoever.

Generally I prefer Tylenol, as it's a "pain reliever" instead.

For something temporary, away from any time-period you'd need to muscle group to recover (anti-inflammatory works be inhibition of prostaglandins which signal the recovery process to begin. Block that, and you inhibit recovery. If you recall Lutalyse, or pgf2 in the late 90s, that's the theory behind it. That it'd trigger growth/"recovery" w/o the actually training the muscle. Never planned out and s only good for causing stomach cramps and nearly shitting yourself)... Id rather take an Aleve over Advil, as Advil feels like it burns a hole in my stomach. Not to even mention what they do to kidneys (ask Alonzo Mourning, or even Shaq).

That said, I'd never advise any of the above "long term", but I'd feel safer taking Tylenol and if I had to take it daily for any length of time, 8 weeks or whatever, I'd get my ast/alt checked, or a liver panel in general. But if I needed something long term, there's a problem that should probably be fixed.

good info , thanks

[Marvin Martian]

hes like a computer with a virus just throwing out random shite and non-sensical waffle and pulling up endless Wikipedia pages he has written himself.

The guys has zero actual education (maybe he made it through high school?) - but attempts to come off as an expert. It’s his severe insecurities that cause him to seek validation via the internet. He is dismissed as a knucklehead in his real life and rather than just being a normal guy online who shares info but is able to admit when he doesn’t know something - he desperately needs to feel like a “guru”.

[wes]

The guys has zero actual education (maybe he made it through high school?) - but attempts to come off as an expert. It’s his severe insecurities that cause him to seek validation via the internet. He is dismissed as a knucklehead in his real life and rather than just being a normal guy online who shares info but is able to admit when he doesn’t know something - he desperately needs to feel like a “guru”.

[wes]

so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that

[Marvin Martian]

Whoah - stared at that clapping pic (enlarged it on phone) for a few minutes and it kind of freaked me out!

[ESFitness]

so Tylenol works on you but opiates don't, gothcha...thanks for that

So opiates only "work" if they make you nod off and get "high"?

Again, opiate experts whos only knowledge comes from Google or a Time magazine article and only experience is a couple Vicodin from a dentist.

Keep it up.

[ESFitness]

Awwww damn it Jo! Why did you have to do and do that??  Now ESF will soon some totally unrelated story in an attempt to somehow explain his vast knowledge of pharmacology.

Wow - this retard didn’t even realize that y’all were asking him questions in jest. He thought you seriously respected his opinion.

So now you're having a conversation with yourself?

You should throw in a couple more gimmick accounts so it's not so obvious.

[Marvin Martian]

So now you're having a conversation with yourself?

You should throw in a couple more gimmick accounts so it's not so obvious.

I am not following you lil fella. I was replying to the Jo dude. Dope got you high?

[wes]

So opiates only "work" if they make you nod off and get "high"?

Again, opiate experts whos only knowledge comes from Google or a Time magazine article and only experience is a couple Vicodin from a dentist.

Keep it up.

MIne comes from real life Mr, 120K !!  LOL 

[LurkerNoMore]

So what have we got so far?

Drug addict
NASCAR driver
NAMBLA sponsor
multiple babies
multiple baby mamas
gf with multiple kids by someone else
multiple arrests
multiple health crisises
Banned from driving
IG drug dealer
crappy ass personal trainer
SWAT team resister
Mexican cartel buddy
celebrity rehab urinal stalker
6 grams roids + synthol = dad bod
teenage insulin use advocate
doped to the gills to get through a day of high school PE
top secret pro card creator
claims he could have gotten to 280-300lbs fit shape but he was too lazy eat to do so (so just took 6 grams of bunk gear instead)

I miss anything?

[wes]

Trained several pro bodybuilders.

[LurkerNoMore]

Trained several pro bodybuilders.

Yeah, I included that in the "top secret pro card creator". 

[wes]

Yeah, I included that in the "top secret pro card creator". 

My bad,but I`m sure if we search hard enough,we can find more great things he`s accomplished!

[Marvin Martian]

The knucklehead couldn’t see that I was replying to another poster??? He must be doped out of his skull right now.

[LurkerNoMore]

The knucklehead couldn’t see that I was replying to another poster??? He must be doped out of his skull right now.

He's not doped!!!  He is just "winning the war against reality right now".

[Marvin Martian]

He's not doped!!!  He is just "winning the war against reality right now".

 .  At least he is winning at something!!

He is so proud to think he knows how to be more of an addicted scum bucket than anyone else. I guess everyone has goals!

[ESFitness]

My bad,but I`m sure if we search hard enough,we can find more great things he`s accomplished!

The dumbfuck junkie you've been getting your "insider info" is indeed Scott Markey.

You know, the 54yr old bum who gets kicked out of his girlfriends homes and has to trade sex with men in exchange for sleeping on the couch and dances for men and let's them suck him off for drug money.

[BB]

The dumbfuck junkie you've been getting your "insider info" is indeed Scott Markey.

You know, the 54yr old bum who gets kicked out of his girlfriends homes and has to trade sex with men in exchange for sleeping on the couch and dances for men and let's them suck him off for drug money.

This guy ? -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=160810.0 .

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sjchJK3u8oI/UDy-KqzJvFI/AAAAAAADr4s/I0sW_VyFimo/s400/002.jpg ?

Blast from the past.

[ESFitness]

This guy ? -

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=160810.0 .

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sjchJK3u8oI/UDy-KqzJvFI/AAAAAAADr4s/I0sW_VyFimo/s400/002.jpg ?

Blast from the past.

Yea.

Dude says in the PM to wes that I'm "always on ghb. And when I couldn't get ghb anymore I'd make gbl out of drain cleaner" hahaha...

The dude got butthurt when he found out I had a gbl source for a few months that was sold in RiteAide. The dude was a GHB addict for years. Even OD'd on it and woke up in the hospital with no pants because he pissed and shit himself. I've never even had GHB, and only used gbl for a few months after I quit nubain. Funny because it was him who'd explain that you'd convert gbl to ghb with "drain cleaner".

Says he's "met all my gfs and baby mom's". He's met 1, and she couldn't stand him. Thought he was a scumbag junkie creep.

Remember how Drea called me one Saturday crying because she was bleeding a TON because you'd been giving her anadrol instead of anavar and she hadn't had her period for months and all of a sudden she's at work at Nutrisport at the gym and she called you to go to the store and bring her pads and a change of clothes and you were screaming at her and refused to. (You made HER work while you refused to) She calls me and me and my ex happened to be downtown at a BBQ and I drove up the 5 and dropped off a package of pads for her and have her a pair of black Adidas pants i had in the trunk? Soon as I get to the parking lot you called and acted like "everything was cool" and like I didn't know you were just on the phone screaming at her? Remember that? Pathetic.

Remember how you sat I my car I the parking lot while me and Drea walked across into Mexico and you made her stuff all your pills up her vagina because you couldn't go through customs because you STILL had warrants for domestic violence from previous gfs? And we brought back some trazadone and you may her take them out in my back seat so you could have a shot of.nubain and take pills and you had no idea what trazadone was but took 2 anyways (in true junkie fashion) and we thought you OD'd because you were unresponsive within 10mins? Remember that?

Remember when you did too much coke and shit your pants in that girls bathroom and jumped out the window and got your shit splattered underwater caught on her fence when you jumped over running home?

Remember when your best friend Cameron came up from Florida with his gf and he knocked you out in the lobby of World gym for hitting on her? In front of Brad, moose, Jeff Ward, debbie, and Sandra? Remember how you started crying because you thought the oil you were putting on the cut wasn't working and you were gonna have a scar on your cheek? Hahaha

Remember how I bailed you out when Drea found a pink toothbrush in the bathroom left by some chic when she was in Brazil over the holidays and you called me to tell her it was mine from when I crashed there overnight on my way to Mexico. You were scared to death because the apt was in her name and credit cards were in her mom's name, who paid for everything, including the.groceries you are and she was gonna kick you out with nothing more than the clothes you owned and your little collection.bodybuilding mags. Fucken voice quivering trying to.convince her hahaha.. you didn't realize you hadn't hung up the phone yet and I could hear every word you were saying to her lol.

Your whole resume when applying for a job was to go over to the magazine rack and pick up through the magazines where you had a little picture in and I told you I could only pay you minimum wage and I could only give you part-time hours and before I could get the fucking words out you yell out "I'll take it! I'll take it!!", And you couldn't afford to buy a $12 company polo shirt uniform and only had 1 white collared shirt and you'd freak out and run straight to the bathroom when you would have your weekly nose bleeds and drip Blood on the sleeve from your 2 decades of cocaine abuse.

Remember how you'd claim 14 dependants on your taxes so you'd get as much money as possible and use a bogus SSN?(you're welcome) Never intended on paying your taxes anyways.

It goes on

And on

And on