Author Topic: 1974 Arnold vs. 2005 Gunter (Read 11962 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #25 on:** April 16, 2006, 10:46:24 PM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on April 16, 2006, 08:44:43 PM

Gimme a break! why is there even a comparison? these guys are 30 years apart

Exactly

LuciusFox · « **Reply #26 on:** April 16, 2006, 10:49:44 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on April 16, 2006, 10:46:24 PM

Exactly

Why not compare Eugene Sandow and Bill Pearl.

theonlyone · « **Reply #27 on:** April 16, 2006, 11:27:17 PM »

It was for real guys Kasparov got a good bang

http://www.compromat.ru/main/sport/kasparov4.htm

LuciusFox · « **Reply #28 on:** April 16, 2006, 11:30:55 PM »

Quote from: theonlyone on April 16, 2006, 11:27:17 PM

It was for real guys Kasparov got a good bang

http://www.compromat.ru/main/sport/kasparov4.htm

Why did they hit him with the board?

theonlyone · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2006, 12:17:34 AM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 11:30:55 PM

Why did they hit him with the board?

It is like in that anecdote when you lose to your opponent in chess you left just to hit him by the board

gibberj2 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2006, 01:23:14 AM »

he retired from chess and became involved in politics and some guy didn't like him and clocked him with a board

the shadow · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2006, 01:41:26 AM »

arnold smokes this dick head gunter..gunter is the worst ever pro.he should not even b on stage.i dunno wat the hype is about this dick head gunter.he has no elgs and his legs r worst than levrones..truly the most overrated bodybuilder ever along with flex wheeler......he is just 300lbs for the sake of 300lbs.still its hard 2 believe that a legless gunter beat a full and hard coleman at the 2002 gnc .gunter was given the biggest gift in pro bodybuilding history.sad!!!!!!!!

fearANDloathing · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2006, 09:45:08 AM »

What kind of "coloring" do the pros from Europe use? They always look great onstage. Kinda like a Bronze statue.
Gunter over Arnie but thats several decades apart, apples and oranges baby.

Dingleberry · « **Reply #33 on:** April 17, 2006, 10:15:21 AM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on April 16, 2006, 09:46:56 PM

hypotheticals are fucking retarded, prime gunter is bigger and better conditioned than arnold, the rest comes down to your preferences in aesthetics.

No one of Arnolds era was conditioned like todays pro's, the science wasn't there. Today's 290 pound monsters don't work any harder than they did in the past, hell, in a lot of cases they work less. They just have access to substances that didn't exist 20-30 years ago, not to mention the nutrition of today.
While it's true that Gunter is bigger and better conditioned, it's also true that Arnold was the champion during the years he competed. This my friend is something Gunter can't say, but guys like Arnold, Haney, Dorian, Ronnie, etc can. Arnold has a timeless build that almost any of us wish we had. Fuck the weight difference, I still respect Arnold as a BB more than Gunter.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #34 on:** April 17, 2006, 10:24:25 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 17, 2006, 01:41:26 AM

arnold smokes this dick head gunter..gunter is the worst ever pro.he should not even b on stage.i dunno wat the hype is about this dick head gunter.he has no elgs and his legs r worst than levrones..truly the most overrated bodybuilder ever along with flex wheeler......he is just 300lbs for the sake of 300lbs.still its hard 2 believe that a legless gunter beat a full and hard coleman at the 2002 gnc .gunter was given the biggest gift in pro bodybuilding history.sad!!!!!!!!

Please try to be more positive.

robocop · « **Reply #35 on:** April 17, 2006, 10:26:31 AM »

arnold is still tha best.

stone_cold_steve · « **Reply #36 on:** April 17, 2006, 10:32:34 AM »

This started about Ah'nuld and Gunther an ended about chess.
And there's not a single "meltdown" or "gay" or "owned" in this thread.

Weird

Condor · « **Reply #37 on:** April 17, 2006, 12:06:38 PM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 17, 2006, 01:41:26 AM

arnold smokes this dick head gunter..gunter is the worst ever pro.he should not even b on stage.i dunno wat the hype is about this dick head gunter.he has no elgs and his legs r worst than levrones..truly the most overrated bodybuilder ever along with flex wheeler......he is just 300lbs for the sake of 300lbs.still its hard 2 believe that a legless gunter beat a full and hard coleman at the 2002 gnc .gunter was given the biggest gift in pro bodybuilding history.sad!!!!!!!!

Now that I've translated what appears to be english, I will say that Gunter actually used to known for his leg mass, they have seemingly shrunk in the past few years. Gunter may need to fill out a bit but he still looks larger and wider than anybody else on the stage. Calling him the worst of all time? I'm quite sure most would agree that you could come up with at least 300 other bodybuilders that look worse.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #38 on:** April 17, 2006, 02:07:57 PM »

How can people say Gunter doesn't belong on stage

If anything i would say get rid of Jaw Gutler and the rest of the gut masters like Gustavo. Gunter displays a very classical look compared to most of todays pros and his legs while smaller then years past were shredded.

bmacsys · « **Reply #39 on:** April 17, 2006, 02:30:42 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on April 16, 2006, 05:53:37 PM

65 pound weight advantage he dwafs Arnold lol master of the obvious , thats like saying Ronnie dawfs Shawn Ray

Do you really think Gunther is a legit 300 pounds in contest condition? At the same height he doesn't look 65 pounds heavier than Arnold.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:54:01 PM »

ok buddy so you played spassky in a simul AND met fischer in hungary... anyway fischer was the best ever at exploiting small advantages. i didn't quite understand what you said about endgame but fischer's was better.

onlyme · « **Reply #41 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:57:25 PM »

It's funny some guys are talking chess on a bodybuildng board and post about Arnold.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:58:15 PM »

By the way my claims about prearrangement are not baseless. it's a fact that the korchnoi-karpov matches were fixed unless korchnoi is a liar and kasparov has fixed games. unless you wanna call nigel short a liar. you seen Bc4 Najdorf game they drew with Kasparov playing black? it was the one where they drew with perpetual position in like 20 moves where Short kept threatening mate on the kingside. it was a tournament game not a match game. the game was cooked up. according to short the reason they fixed the fancy draw was because kasparov needed a draw to win the event and short had been bitten by a dog the night before and didn't feel like playing a hard game.

Condor · « **Reply #43 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:58:46 PM »

yeah well I played a russkie in a trial and once met a fisher who was hungry.

Condor · « **Reply #44 on:** April 17, 2006, 04:59:57 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on April 17, 2006, 04:57:25 PM

It's funny some guys are talking chess on a bodybuildng board and post about Arnold.

yeah it's like being on a bible study chat room and talking about gay porn.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 17, 2006, 05:03:15 PM »

how dare you compare chess to gay porn!?

Tigerman · « **Reply #46 on:** April 17, 2006, 06:31:06 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on April 17, 2006, 04:57:25 PM

It's funny some guys are talking chess on a bodybuildng board and post about Arnold.

Things are kinda related.... Arnold used to play chess a lot with Franco

And chess and bodybuilding are kind of similar: they are the extreme disciplines for mind and body.

gibberj2 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 17, 2006, 06:36:07 PM »

arnold sucks at chess. i saw a thing where he goes to a school to play chess with some kids and he said "i like my horses"

real players dont say that

Tigerman · « **Reply #48 on:** April 17, 2006, 06:42:07 PM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on April 17, 2006, 06:36:07 PM

arnold sucks at chess. i saw a thing where he goes to a school to play chess with some kids and he said "i like my horses" real players dont say that

Who said he was good? Also things are relative... I guess you suck badly if you play against a GM.
Also if you say he was bad for a quote he said playing with kids... oh well... that's not a good indicator! I don't know how good he was, but I know for sure that Franco wasn't bad.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #49 on:** April 17, 2006, 06:47:04 PM »

Quote from: gibberj2 on April 17, 2006, 06:36:07 PM

arnold sucks at chess. i saw a thing where he goes to a school to play chess with some kids and he said "i like my horses" real players dont say that

He could be better than you.