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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2019, 02:53:02 AM »
The original Hebrews were black.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2019, 03:45:15 AM »
The original Hebrews were black.

FACT!
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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2019, 11:42:00 AM »

He ain't saving you dipshit. Your dumbass is part of the trash he's taking out.


Ooh, YOU communicate with him (JC)  :o , tell more .......

Obw, how he (JC) will take me 'out'  ::)

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2019, 11:43:26 AM »
FACT!

Chimpanzee is black monkey , fact  :D

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2019, 11:45:28 AM »
The original Hebrews were black.

Post pics/cave paintings  ???.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2019, 07:00:10 PM »
There are people who know what is going to happen and they are already positioning for it.  For example, shorting of airline companies stocks before September 11, 2001 was presaging the 9/11 attack.
Likely a stablecoin such as Facebook Libra transitioning the backing from a basket of national currencies predominantly dollars, towards a backing reserve mostly of Bitcoins.

This will happen because USA has abused its advantage with the dollar being the standard unit-of-account and because the strong dollar short vortex will wreck havoc on the world, driving massive stagflation and rising interest rates especially outside the USA. Bitcoin will be seen as a more fair alternative to any single national currency.


It wont be Bitcoin. It will be XRP because it provides instant liquidation.  Bitcoin is too slow and XRP is everything bitcoin wants to be. Bitcoin is MySpace and XRP is Facebook and Libra wants to be what XRP is. It's all about Ripple and XRP. The writing is on the wall. It will be the world's digital reserve currency or at least the West's digital reserve currency. China will back their bitcoin with gold they've been hording.
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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2019, 07:30:55 PM »
Volker took the Federal Funds rate up to 19% back in 1981.  today the Federal Funds rate is 1.5%.  What would happen to the economy if interest rates were raised 17.5 %?

Who would be the Paul Volker of today?  Who has the courage to do what needs to be done regardless of how unpopular?  If we have real inflation that's what will need to be done.  There's nothing fun about 19% plus interest rates.  Real inflation is painful.


PIP Paul Volker

Volcker took charge of the Fed in August 1979, when the U.S. economy was in the grip of runaway inflation. Consumer prices skyrocketed 13% in 1979 and then by the same pace again in 1980.

Working relentlessly to bring prices under control, Volcker raised the Fed’s benchmark interest rate from 11% to a record 20% by late 1980 to try to slow the economy’s growth and thereby shrink inflation.

Those high interest rates made it so expensive for people and companies to borrow that the economy weakened steadily. By January 1980, a recession had begun. It lasted six months. A deeper and more painful downturn took hold in July 1981. It endured for 18 months and sent unemployment up to 10.8% in November and December 1982, the highest level since the Great Depression.

https://apnews.com/d91989c6d267295f565fa4be7a825555


They don't make them like Volker any more.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2019, 09:29:30 PM »
It wont be Bitcoin. It will be XRP because it provides instant liquidation.  Bitcoin is too slow and XRP is everything bitcoin wants to be. Bitcoin is MySpace and XRP is Facebook and Libra wants to be what XRP is. It's all about Ripple and XRP. The writing is on the wall. It will be the world's digital reserve currency or at least the West's digital reserve currency. China will back their bitcoin with gold they've been hording.

I said a stable coin, such as Facebook Libra.

It will be a non-permissonless, 666 as you call it, stablecoin (e.g. Facebook’s Libra) eventually (2026 – 2032) backed by  Bitcoin.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2019, 05:35:45 AM »
I bought my first house in 1984 with a mortgage of 17.5%.

That was after paying 5 points (a point is 1% of the mortgage) to reduce the rate.

Volcker saved the country with tough love.  Guy was a hero.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2019, 05:42:03 AM »
in a potential recession, the US has room to lower interest rates.

Where is the room to lower rates in Europe, when the rates are zero or negative?

How much room is there before it goes into negative territory?

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2019, 05:49:45 AM »
U.S. Wage Growth Eclipses Mortgage Rate for First Time Since 1972

Average pay rises 3.8% in October versus mortgage rate of 3.7%

Combination will limit the debt burden for American households

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-06/u-s-wage-growth-eclipses-mortgage-rate-for-first-time-since-72?fbclid=IwAR1pCFqcAObTKKG17ADIA7_IZW2ALhln6rxcdGdqzU6NTXmt9AASsYMxaLs


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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2019, 12:20:48 PM »

Are you saying the banks in Europe are paying people to borrow money? Heck, I going to move to Europe if that's the case. Nevermind.




No Europe, take that ugly old bag Nancy with you & relocate to Wiggz Liberia, rocket scientist Palumbo will join you too.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2019, 04:40:13 PM »
How much room is there before it goes into negative territory?

1.55 %

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS

It's been at zero from 2008 to 2015.  Only twice in the last one hundred years has it been zero.  During the great depression and from 2008 to 2015.

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Re: We're Heading Towards Stagflation Big Time
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2019, 05:04:34 PM »
PIP Paul Volker

Volcker took charge of the Fed in August 1979, when the U.S. economy was in the grip of runaway inflation. Consumer prices skyrocketed 13% in 1979 and then by the same pace again in 1980.

Working relentlessly to bring prices under control, Volcker raised the Fed’s benchmark interest rate from 11% to a record 20% by late 1980 to try to slow the economy’s growth and thereby shrink inflation.

Those high interest rates made it so expensive for people and companies to borrow that the economy weakened steadily. By January 1980, a recession had begun. It lasted six months. A deeper and more painful downturn took hold in July 1981. It endured for 18 months and sent unemployment up to 10.8% in November and December 1982, the highest level since the Great Depression.

https://apnews.com/d91989c6d267295f565fa4be7a825555


They don't make them like Volker any more.

I need to go back to school for a semester and take a few Econ classes so I understood how all of this type of shit works.